Cedartree blames gluten for insanity

Scared of my depression
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:29:12 pm »

Metheral66

I have been diagnosed with clinical depression or uni polar depression as some call it. It started after I I was on benzos for about a yr. It got much worse when I had a tramatic event, and again even worse whwn I started to try to come off the benzos.

Im just so scared my depression will never lift. My friend quit benzos over 5 yrs ago and he hes a mess. What he sicribes to me sounds like bi polar. His moods are every where. And he refuses to take a mood stabalizer which I think is insane.

I just dont want some sperate underlining condition to ruin my recovery.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 11:12:44 pm »

journey

Hi Metheral66

Your depression is temporary physical damage, causing depressive symptoms.
External stressors will make it worse.

Your depression will lift, as soon as you heal from the benzos.
Many people are reporting feeling better doing daily cuts.
I am coping better on daily cuts.

I don’t think your friend is insane because he does not choose to take a mood stabilizer, because psych meds can make things worse for a lot of people. He may want to pursue non drug treatment for his moods though.
If they are caused by benzos however, they will not respond to treatment in the normal way, due to the fact that they are caused by temporary physical damage.

It is common in wd to worry about never getting better, but we do heal.
All we need to do is to taper down as smoothly as possible.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm »

Metheral66

Thanks for the encouragment journey.

I hope my depression will lift. I know ashton talks about the use of anti depressents if the depression is sever.

I know my friends not crazy but its frusterating to see him still suffer. I just want him to get well b/c he hasnt touched a drug in 5 yrs and is doing horribly. Whats most frusterating is that he wont try anything. I have anoth friend who is bi polar and she takes a mood stavalizer and is doing amazing. Before the drug she wasnt functioning at all.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:06:00 am »

cedartree

I haven’t had any depression, not once since I’ve been off benzo’s and all other psych drugs. My doctors labeled me as everything from S.A.D. to depressive, to bipolar, to GAD, etc etc etc. All along it was the drugs themselves that caused most of my problems. The other thing that caused my problems was being misdiagnosed when all along I had Celiac disease and no one knew what it was until now. If only I had been eating a gluten free diet and taking good care of myself I would never have had to suffer such horrible withdrawals.

Also, my sister was diagnosed with bipolar disorder this summer. She is now 100% better and guess what……she isn’t taking any psych drugs of any kind!!! Amazing, her bipolar episode was actually triggered by Trazodone and Abilify. I was the one who suggested she allow herself to be off the drugs for a few months and see how she does. She’s so much better now. Just proves to me that the drugs themselves cause/create more problems than they could ever solve. This is my experience and my observation.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 06:42:18 am »

Metheral66

Thats awsome both you and your sister doing well!

Its just so very confusing. I mean you guys got better being off drugs. But how come my friends never did. Things just seemed to get worse. Like I said it wasn’t until my one friend was put on a mood stablalizer did she recover.

And my other friend has been med free for 5 years and he is just getting worse and worse.

Its hard to say “no one should ever take drugs” just as it hard to say “everyone should take drugs”.

Like when do you say medication may help?

I know for myself, I have to be a mood stabalizer or my depression becomes extremely disabling

Isn’t really confusing? or is it just me?

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 11:51:37 am »

journey

Quote from: Metheral66 on December 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm
Thanks for the encouragment journey.

I hope my depression will lift. I know ashton talks about the use of anti depressents if the depression is sever.

I know my friends not crazy but its frusterating to see him still suffer. I just want him to get well b/c he hasnt touched a drug in 5 yrs and is doing horribly. Whats most frusterating is that he wont try anything. I have anoth friend who is bi polar and she takes a mood stavalizer and is doing amazing. Before the drug she wasnt functioning at all.
Hi Metheral

Ashton nowadays is against ad’s. Her manual was done in 1982. It is now found that AD’s can cause more harm.
Ultimately its up to you though.
They have to be tapered too, sometimes with difficult results.
I assure you that you will recover.
You can not know what your friend has done in the last five years. If he used alcohol or whatever, so I would not compare myself with your friend.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:43:31 pm »

cedartree

Quote from: Metheral66 on Yesterday at 06:42:18 am
Its just so very confusing. I mean you guys got better being off drugs. But how come my friends never did. Things just seemed to get worse. Like I said it wasn’t until my one friend was put on a mood stablalizer did she recover.

And my other friend has been med free for 5 years and he is just getting worse and worse.

Perhaps your friend has something else wrong that has nothing at all to do with medications. I for instance suffered from depression because I had Celiac disease that was undiagnosed. When I eat gluten it causes severe depression and anxiety in me. They called it a mental disorder when in fact it was an autoimmune disease. Since I adhere to the correct diet, I am healthy. If I didn’t I would be curled up in a ball somewhere crying everyday.

All I’m saying is there could be factors that we simply do not understand and the doctors may not have dug deep enough to get to the root cause. If my doctors had stopped long enough to stop giving me drugs and looked at all of my symptoms, I believe they would have found my autoimmune disease long ago and I could have been healthy and happy without any drugs of any kind. But that’s not how our western medicine operates. The first thing they do is prescibe you something without thought to what kind of backlash it’s going to take on your health and your life.

All I can say is that you’ll never know just how healthy you can be until you’ve remained off drugs for a period of time and I don’t mean a month or two. You’ve got to really give it a chance. Lifestyle I have found is more important than anything else. If you take good care of your health your mind will be happier. It’s that simple. But somewhere along the line in our western culture we’ve lost sight of that altogether.

M, it used to be confusing to me too, now it’s clear as day. I had to go through all that you are going through before I figured this out for myself. Don’t worry, you’ll get there and find your answers.

3 thoughts on “Cedartree blames gluten for insanity

  1. Hi Methonall,
    So surry two here aboot yur suffrings. Lukeily, yur recouverry isn’t dephendant on yur ebilityies to speel currectlie or uid be tututly fuckd.

  2. Metheral, I think your drugs (mood stabilizers, I always loved that one) may be working against your spelling and cognitive functions in general. Keep poppin any pills you like until you find the “magic bullet” that makes a shitty life seem like a good one to you……..

    PS do not take an honest look in the mirror, it could result in leaving the comforting ranks of the “professional victims” who cry out for pills to address feeling bad about a life filled with poor decisions……this never works in the long run BTW

    Feeling good comes from what you do, not what you take.

  3. I don’t see the logic here. Friend took benzos, has been off for 5 years but he *might* have Bipolar Disorder… So “will this happen to me?” question is nonsensical.

    The person who replies talks about “temporary damage” that the OP’s friend might have.

    I could say this a million times but I don’t think it matters:
    Changes are not damage, changes are not damage.

    5 years is temporary? Wtf? Strange dictionary some people use.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *