Benzo Buddies members tired of “horseshit” about healing

Facing the unfortunate fact: for some of us, it's permanent
« on: January 28, 2017, 06:30:13 am »

[Buddie]

Title says it all.

I’ve seen enough two, three, five year even 10 year off posts to know that there seems to be a set of preconditions which disposes some of us to permanent brain damage. Not sure what those are and of course the science isn’t there yet to tease this all apart. It’s an unfortunate truth.

11 months off, complete brain damage feeling in my head. Can’t think complex things anymore.

I’m puzzled just looking at this now?

Re: Facing the unfortunate fact: for some of us, it's permanent
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 06:35:18 am »

[Buddie]

And please…

No “we all heal in time” here… I can’t take this horseshit line of patter any longer.

This is for people trying to cope with the reality of our situation and where we go and what on Earth we do from here

16 thoughts on “Benzo Buddies members tired of “horseshit” about healing

  1. Time for a basic lesson in cult propaganda/illogic:

    “we all heal in time”..

    1) The cult programs members with a belief and an assumption that there is damage to be “healed” from, when none, if any, have had an MRI showing any neurological damage. Withdrawal symptoms are routinely labelled as damage that needs to be “healed” from, when the reality is that most of the members were damaged psychoemotionally long before using benzos, and it’s that underlying cause that needs to be “healed”. Blaming benzos enables avoiding personal responsibility for their lifestyles that promoted their ill-health to begin with.

    2) Given the indisputable fact that environmental factors are known to affect psychoemotional health, it’s far more likely that continually reinforcing beliefs about damage will, in fact, be a significant contributor to the negative placebo-effect that occurs even in blind-testing with sugar pills.

    Conclusion: being a long-term member of the benzobuddies cult = the main source of external stressors that are leading to perpetual anxiety, fear, insomnia, and hormonal imbalances that are identical to benzo withdrawal.

    And this, that cult dogma, is what I’ve watched close friends become brainwashed by. They’d rather remain in the cult, even if it means alienating unique friends in their life.

    It’s heartbreaking.

  2. These people are simply in denial about being mentally ill. Any anxiety or depression forum on the web will have people with the same mindset. There’s some “thing” attacking their sanity and body. If they just shut their computer off and went out into the world they’d improve. it wouldn’t happen overnight but they would heal over time. As you say it’s a lot easier to blame a pill or disease than face the fact they have a chronic mental condition that likely requires daily treatment. Its much easier to say “my brain is ruined and its my doctors fault.” instead of exercising,eating right, getting a job a doing some therapy.

  3. Unbelievable! So my benzo dependence had a psychiatric cause although merely prescribed for muscle pain after a long trek in the Himalayas. I find this rather odd that now I suffer severe anxiety and many symptoms I’ve never experienced before in my life. As I’m also totally incapacitated at present how do I go out into the world? Something I would dearly love to be able to do. What credentials do you have for saying that benzo sufferers are psychiatric cases? Thank You

  4. I know nothing of benzo buddies and how it destroys lives, I am referring to the comments made by the above Mike which I am assuming are about psychiatric drugs especially benzos. I certainly have never had any psychiatric problems and am angry that my use of a benzodiazepine for chronic muscle pain has led to severe problems leaving me disabled and unable to function normally. Benzodiazepine drugs are dangerous and they should be banned. Who are these addicts? I was never an addict and was given the drug for a few days by a specialist before I had a paradoxical allergic reaction which took my active life away. Sorry I’m upset.

  5. Gotcha, I’m following now.

    If I can offer this input, Pete, this blog and its contributors are focusing on the benzobuddies forum (online cult) that’s plagued with special-interest groups, scientologists, hypochondriacs and professional victims that sincerely cause harms, including a multitude of suicides. So, when you see comments about benzo users you can be almost certain that it’s about the established fakers at benzobuddies and similar online groups, not benzo users in general.

    I can understand your anger, and yes, on rare occasions benzodiazepines (like any drug) can cause very bad side-effects for a small minority of patients, but like literally any drug, the benefits to the vast majority outweigh the risks. General Anesthetic kills many people every day but, as I’m sure you can appreciate, without it infinitely more people would die. They have to make judgement-calls and inevitably, there’s risks.

    No drug ever developed is 100% safe, and benzos save so many lives that banning them will only lead to countless deaths and problems in society.

    I am sincerely sorry that you’ve drawn the short straw, Pete, honestly I am, for I’ve also drawn my own straw with different drugs, but this blog isn’t setting out to attack bonafide victims of the downside to pharmaceuticals.

    For the large part it’s tongue-in-cheek, but it does seem to be one of the few online venues where an alternative to the narrative of victimhood, doctor-bashing and, literally, people making excuses to stay sick and perpetuate mental illness, is present.

    I don’t know the creator personally, but over time I’ve learned that his aim isn’t to antagonise genuine sufferers of the negatives to pharmaceuticals, but rather help them avoid cult-thinking.

    I hope you find your way back to health, Pete.

    Jake.

  6. Jake, you have written a very nice response to Pete.
    I am afraid I am not really buying into Petes story. It just seems highly unlikely to be truthful. I am calling bullshit on this one. I have seen countless kooks claiming that benzos are solely to blame for their problems, but after a few days use for muscle soreness after a long trek in the Himalayas? No way! Lol ? Nice try Pete, me boy?

  7. 2009, flew from Delhi to Kathmandu. Wanted to trek to Everest base camp but sadly started suffering bad pain and had to rest at Namche Bazaar before returning and seeing consultant at UCLH London. Believe what you like but very strange you find this funny. Ten days to be exact. Don’t be fooled by these drugs, some have bad reactions. Thanks Jake for your understanding.

  8. Where have I said anything about Benzo sufferers? Why am I being attacked? I thought this site was about benzodiazepines but seems I was wrong and all I did was tell my story. I have a great doctor who has supported me now for several years. This truly is madness.

  9. Pete, imho, some people can and do have adverse reactions to various drugs including benzos. But “damage” that can persist over many months or even years from a few days use and taken as prescribed? No way! This sort of claim has no legitimate evidence of being real. Sorry, your issues have other sources of origin. Best of luck as it will take an open and honest mind to determine them. I am not very confident you will as it seems your mind has some how already been closed. May I ask who you have learned about benzos from? I feel you are on the wrong track.

  10. White knight. Go take benzos for a couple weeks. Pete has no reason to bullshit. Seriously. Your not convinced? Take the drug beyond a couple weeks. You think it’s not real? Then you take the pills or seriously stfu. When you are in benzo hell you’ll wonder just how fucking ignorant you were before being plunged into misery. It’s hard to believe. Until you are in it. Living it. Every day. For months. You don’t have to believe. Take the drug. For too long. And you will lol. Oh my god you will believe. With every fiber of your miserable being. And the worst part. No one will believe you. Except haha those who have been there or who are still there writhing in agony. You’ll feel real small. Your ego will be destroyed along with any other belief you once had. Ugggh. You’re not even worth my breath. Take some benzos you pussy then we can watch you squirm. Your like the loud mouth that says ” oh that looks easy i could do that” that trys it and gets his ass floored. You’ll cry about it then wonder why people would make this shit up. When they are in pain? Why would you make that up. I wish it was made up shit. And I probably would think it was if I hadn’t become a victim. You. Are an asshat. Pete came looking for help. Not a witch burning. Pick the story apart. But when it becomes your story. You’ll shut your mouth.

  11. Pete, the way you’re lashing out at me for my comment is all the proof I need that you have issues. And when I talk about people with mental issues I say that as someone that has them. Anxiety and depression are no joke but if you think any medication causes 2 and 3 year withdrawals you’re crazy. I did what many do at benzo buddies and other forums of its ilk do. Blamed the benzos, blamed my diet, blamed god you name it. You will not get better until you accept you have a condition and stop blaming external factors. I’m also tired of seeing bullshit stories about how Benzo’s are “worse than heroin” yet my community is plagued with bodies of people dying from opiate use and not one god damn person has died form Benzo use.

  12. Benzo, you are crazy bro! Not to get into a pissing match, but I took the shit, benzos, for over a decade. I had a tuff WD, but I got through it. Taking personal responsibility for my problems was a prerequisite to my recovery.

    BW does not last for years. People who tell you it does are in a state of delusion. Run away from them as they are not sane, and can gravely mislead you. Sometimes the harm can prove fatal. Can you understand? If not, you chances are less than good. Sorry, but your survival may depend on your ability to extricate yourself from the cult. I thank God I did.

  13. If “Benzo” isn’t a typical “benzobuddy” reeling off the precise benzobuddies rhetoric that keeps them stuck there for years, then I don’t know what is!

    It’s worth noting that 98% of people that have taken benzos would have to describe a different experience because.. REALITY.

  14. By the way, Benzobuddy, I hadn’t noticed it before but I think this thing you said may have been a Freudian slip:

    “And I probably would think it was if I hadn’t become a victim”.

    Hmm. Yeah, do you know what it’s like to be dependent on 52 different substances spanning 30yrs, and the during the last 2yrs quit taking the ladt 13 of them all at once, including 4 different benzos?

    THAT is something you should try, if you really believe what you’re saying. I just didn’t have the mindset of “victim”, even after 18months on benzobuddies. I am living proof that addiction is mostly in the mindset of the addict.

    Your question, too, about why would people lie? It’s known in the Medical fields as “malingering”. Look it up, you’ll see that there are countless people lying about sickness all the time. They all like playing victims, too.

    You’ll find at benzobuddies a significant number of people who don’t want to work.. want their husbands to keep looking after the kids and paying for their “therapies”.. countless activists that want to bring down the Pharmaceutical industry and, literally, murder doctors.. Narcissists that want constant drama and attention.. emotional manipulators.. hypochondriacs..

    You get the point, right? People at benzobuddies will find it all too easy to INSIST that benzos ruined their lives. Until, of course, they quit, and then start “developing” autoimmune disorders such as mold toxicity and Lyme disease that, coincidentally, offer the same exact symptoms as benzo withdrawal, only to cry “it wasn’t the benzos after all”!!!

    Don’t forget the Placebo effect. It works for all the negative symptoms too, and there’s no shortage of whiny little pussies at benzobuddies, all plying their hypochondria like it’s going out of fashion.

    It’s literally infectious like a virus!

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