Ashton tapers turning people into addicts?

Becoming more addicted with taper plan
« on: April 07, 2017, 01:08:02 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello!

I have recently startet a taper plan after getting adviced that my original plan by going cold turkey was not the smartest idea.

As i have not made a sig yet ill quickly explain what dose ive been on previously and for what period:
Been on Valium for about 1 year, I do not however take it everyday, on average I have been taking it 5-6 days a week.
My doses for the past 4 months has varied between 15-35mg the days I have taken it (I have only taken it based on what I feel I need when I would experience social anxiety). I have also been on Valium in the past, then on smaller doses (max 10-15mg) and maximum 3 months time. I have cold turkey then without any problems.

Four days ago I started a taper plan with 10mg a day, (2,5mg in morning, 2,5mg afternoon, and 5mg night). Prior to this I was going cold turkey for about 9 days with two “rescue doses” in total of that period, first one being 10mg and 2nd being 15mg, so 25mg total in those 9 days.
I have not experienced any side effects with my taper plan so far, except for slighty “cloudy mind”.

My problem with the taper plan however is that I more and more feel like I am building up a much bigger addiction to the drug with my taper plan as I now know I absolutely need to take it to certain times, and it was not like this before at all, where i would just take it based on my actual needs. Now I know that when I wake up I will need to take a dose, around dinner time ill take another dose and before going to bed ill take a third dose. I truly feel like I am getting alot more addicted to the drug than I have been before, and I am really afraid that this is going to make it alot harder to quit it.

Does anyone have any suggestion to what I could do in my situation to make it better not worse?

Ashton tapers cause tongue twitching

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Did anyone have weird tongue symptoms?
« on: August 14, 2016, 01:45:29 am »

[Buddie]

I get this weird taste in my mouth, almost metallic or like perfume. I also get tongue twitches and like a feeling that I have something on my tongue, crawling or kind of like pop rocks or food is stuck there. Anyone else have this? The taper also gives me heartburn, so maybe it’s that as well?

What other symptoms did you guys feel?, the sensitivity to hear, red ears, nausea, and vision disturbance is driving me insane.

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W-BAD – World Benzo Awareness Day

“It was even suggested that Valium should be added, like fluoride, to the drinking water. Together people would be blessed both with tranquility and strong teeth.” – Prof. Heather Ashton, December 2011

W-BAD – July 11th (Ashton’s birthday)

The date was designated (by whom?) in recognition of Ashton’s contributions to the anti-psychiatry / anti-doctor / conspiracy theory cause over so many decades – together with all of the help (encouraging them to waste years, sometimes decades, of their lives on useless tapers) she has given to so many people around the world. She treated less than 400 people but what the hell…

Participation can be as simple as:

  • Telling any one person that July 11 is World Benzo Awareness Day (could be yourself if agoraphobic)
  • Suing your doctor
  • Sharing something on the Internet (the one activity the kooks are able to do no matter how bad their wave is)
  • Donating $1000 dollars, or more, to Scientology or its front group CCHR
  • Attacking a psychiatrist (or other doctor), nurse, office receptionist, family member of Big Pharma employee, total stranger, etc.
  • Putting a pamphlet in someone’s letter box, handing one out, leaving one on a bus seat or something…

Avoid words like:

  • Addiction
  • Addicts, users, abusers, etc.
  • Misuse, abuse, use, etc.
  • Benzos (even this abbreviation has been bastardized in some media so need to be careful – BZ / BZD / BDZ are acceptable medical abbreviations)
  • Hail Xenu

Doctor-bashers turn on each other less than a month away from W-BAD – World Benzo Awareness Day

“We HAVE to stick together. We cannot NOT support any initiative that has even the remotest possibility of eliciting positive change. Please put any personal differences aside. Unless a proposed activity is illegal or unethical, please support it.” – Bliss Johns

“Preach!!! We are on the bleeding edges of a history making grass roots effort. We cannot afford division.” – Heather Solimine

“Also at issue here is how often I observe the benzo community turning on its own, hurting both well-meaning individuals and the larger benzo effort. Once judgment is declared, the conversation can turn so, so vicious. I think of Baylissa Frederick and Jennifer Austin Leigh, who have both given so much of themselves over the years to help people get through their hellish benzo journeys. They are positive, healing voices; both are highly knowledgable about patterns and methods involved in each person’s unique benzo journey and recovery. They both offer one of the few legitimate services for benzo discontinuation counseling and coping skills available. Yes, they do charge fees; but the costs are barely enough to sustain them. They do their work from a sense of purpose and need, with zero intent to exploit a vulnerable community. Yet over and over they are judged and attacked. And they always forgive and return because they are wonderful, deeply committed people who represent what is best about the community. But I worry; what if the day comes when one or both of them throw up their hands and say, Enough! ? Let’s protect our protectors. Let’s honor our warriors. All of them, which means all of you too —all who have or are experiencing benzo hell.” – Holly Hardman

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Psychiatrist tosses Ashton Manual in trash, makes up own taper plan

Psychiatrist modified Ashton taper
« on: June 08, 2016, 06:32:28 pm »

[Buddie]

I went to the shrink yesterday. Trying to get of ativan, bad widrawal 9 years ago. He had me going down from 3 mg/day by .5mg a week. When I got to 2 mg, I started to have tremors and a very high level of anxiety, pacing the floor. Backed up to 2 1/2 and it didn’t stop. Went back to three. Went online and found the group and the Ashton method. Makes sense to me. Printed it out and showed it to him. Said he would follow it with his own revisions. He said I couldctly to Diazepam equalivalent from Ativan. Part of the reason is that New York State law only allows 4 mg of Ativan per day, and the state would consider adding diazepam as double dosing because it is similar. He agrees witn the diazepam taper after that. Any thoughts?
Also, he said according to his chart, 1mg Ativan = 5mg diazepam, not 10 like on the Ashton chart.
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Kooks make propaganda film for each other (no one else will see it)

Tufts Medical Center psychiatrist Dr. Edward Silberman: “Benzos safer than aspirin”

Abuse may be obscuring other dangers

The war against the opioid epidemic in Massachusetts may be pushing another potential public health crisis into the shadows.

According to research by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, benzodiazepines – a class of anti-anxiety and insomnia drugs, such as Ativan, Klonopin and Xanax – were involved in 31 percent of all opioid-related overdose deaths in 2014.

Benzos, the shorthand name for the drug class, relieve anxiety by slowing the central nervous system. Opioids work on the brain and nervous system in the same way. The combination of the two can severely depress respiratory activity, with life threatening consequences. CDC data from 1999 through 2014 shows that overdose deaths due to benzos has increased 600 percent from 1,135 people in 1999 to 7,945 people in 2014.

An analysis of the CDC data by Dr. Marcus Bachhuber for the American Journal for Public Health, found that between 1996 and 2013, the number of adults filling a benzodiazepine prescriptions increased 67 percent, from 8.1 million to 13.5 million people. And, among people who filled benzo prescriptions, the amount more than doubled between 1996 and 2013, suggesting higher doses per patient. The study also showed that benzo-related deaths rose at a faster rate than both the number of people filling prescriptions or the quantity filled.

State Rep. Paul McMurtry, D-Dedham, has proposed a bill to limit and regulate benzodiazepine prescriptions. A hearing on the proposal held at the Statehouse in April, which included emotional testimony from addicts, survivors and healthcare providers. The bill was sent back to committee on study order and could remain there for months. Fall River Rep. Carole Fiola, who co-sponsored the bill, says the state should be doing more to regulate the drugs. “Massachusetts has always been a leader in many areas of legislation, and we are bringing up a conversation that is important to a lot of people,” Fiola said. “That’s our role and we will continue to gather the facts and research this over the next several months, and see what comes from that.”

Opponents say the threat from benzos is overblown.

Tufts Medical Center psychiatrist Dr. Edward Silberman, who testified against the bill, said benzos are a relatively safe drug. Unless a patient suffers from addiction to other substances as well, benzos can’t do much harm, he said. “These medications, taken alone, are amongst the safest medications that doctors prescribe,” Silberman said. “They’re safer than aspirin. It’s practically impossible to kill yourself by overdosing on benzodiazepines.”

However, Dr. Richard D. Lewis, who has worked in a New Bedford mental health clinic for 20 years, says doctors need to understand the deadly interaction between benzos and opiates. He maintains a blog for an addiction website called Mad in America, where recent post focuses on the deadly mix. “I think this crisis is going pretty much unnoticed,” Lewis said. “I would argue that you can’t solve or make a dent into the opiate crisis without addressing the benzo issue. Lewis says opioid addicts often are given Suboxone or Methadone, which are opiates, themselves. These individuals will, Lewis says, experience anxiety or trouble sleeping, often leading doctors to prescribe benzos. And that, Lewis says, can contribute to opioid overdoses because of the negative interactions of the two drugs. “Benzos and opiates will kill you,” Lewis said. “It’s the synergistic effect of one plus one becomes five.”

Statistics on benzo-related deaths in Massachusetts are hard to come by. Most of the focus by pathologists has been on calculating and tracking opioid deaths. According to Felix Browne, a spokesman for the state Office of Public Safety, statistics for overdose deaths can be misleading. He said cause of death is pulled from death certificates, which can be hastily done. Any conclusive determination in final autopsy reports require a full toxicology screening that can cost upwards of $2,500. The state Medical Examiner’s Office usually doesn’t do such screenings unless there are suspicious circumstances or the family requests it and pays the cost. Final autopsy reports can take from a few months to a few years, due to backlog in cases. Until completed, there’s no way of knowing how much of each drug was in the victim’s system at the time of death.

“The Medical Examiner’s Office has their own way of operating that is very little understood.” Browne said. “Survivors just want to know how their loved one died so they can move on. That’s what the death certificate is for. It’ll say something like ‘acute intoxication’ or ‘cardiac arrest,’ but it’s often more than one substance that’s involved. They don’t know until the full autopsy report is filed.”

For now, it is unlikely any action will be taken on benzos.

Fiola says she hopes the bill will be reconsidered next session. But, Silberman says legislation isn’t the answer. “It’s really very difficult to legislate good medical practice. It’s a little bit like trying to legislate morality. You can have an impact, but it’s using a very broad brush to deal with a problem,” Silberman said. “In medicine, one should think about the individual patient, and one size doesn’t necessarily fit all.”