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Benzo Buddies angry at Jordan Peterson for getting better

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #186 on: October 02, 2019, 09:13:55 pm »

[Buddie]

She said something like: Daddy is fine. He was having an allergic reaction to a medication. They removed the medication and now he is OK.

IMHO, I question that explanation. Who, besides a devoted cult follower would believe that?

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #187 on: October 02, 2019, 09:23:52 pm »

[Buddie]

I watched his daughter on youtube. She stated they were putting him on a shorter acting benzo to help withdraw him. Funny how I was told over and over to do just the opposite. Hmm…not sure that’s the right way to go. The medical and detox community are really clueless about these drugs. Seems they think 28 days and get the drug out of a person system fixes this. If it did, this message board would not exist. Wait till he finds out that getting the drug out of your system with a rapid taper can cause more damage and then the real horror is just beginning. Unless he has logged into a message board like this he really has no idea what he is in for. Maybe he’ll be one of the lucky one, but from all my reading and on these boards, if it starts out bad trying to stop it only gets worse. If the rehab f-cks this up with him, which there is very good chance that could happen considering this is benzos not alcohol or opioids, a lot of attention will come down on this problem.

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #188 on: October 02, 2019, 09:27:58 pm »

[Buddie]

I think it’s a lie. I came to this conclusion based on her delivery. It is inconsistent with the TMI way she normally speaks. She tells you he was on klonopin, tells you where every bone and joint replacement in her body is. She told us in detail exactly what happened to her mother including what was leaking and into where. . And now he had a mysterious reaction to a “medication” that she didn’t mention the name of. That is why I think she is lying.

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #189 on: October 02, 2019, 09:37:28 pm »

[Buddie]

One minute you’re illegally leaking the first real televised expose on benzo damage, the next you’ve just had a bad reaction and are fine. Just your average survivor story.

Maybe you leave the hospital but it takes you a while to slow taper off your allergic reaction.

I had a lot of sympathy for this family, but they clearly don’t understand how important this shit is and how they are jerking around with people’s understanding of how damaging these drugs can be.

I will say this again, it pisses me off that no high profile person who has been through this has ever made any real effort to educate the public in any sustained way. Stupid EMINEM wrote like three albums on the theme of addiction and recovery (and relapse) and you’d need a decoder ring and a special Ashton edition of the urban dictionary to understand what drugs he’s talking about.

I read about this stuff all the time. People’s spouses die from benzo “overdose.” Next thing they’re cutting a comedy album. People whose entire careers are based on telling the ‘truth,’ and being confessional about their pain.

It is unfathomable to me.

Benzo Buddies member attacks Lisa Ling for not mentioning Ashton’s death

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am »

[Buddie]

CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2019, 01:02:46 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am
CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

lol

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2019, 01:04:23 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am
CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

I’m not sure why they would report it. She’s only important to us, a tiny population. Why don’t you contact Lisa Ling and see what she says?

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2019, 01:15:29 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 01:04:23 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am
CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

I’m not sure why they would report it. She’s only important to us, a tiny population. Why don’t you contact Lisa Ling and see what she says?

If Heather Ashton is only important to us, a tiny population, then why is CNN planning to broadcast a Lisa Ling report about the benzo problem on October 6? Surely the issue must be important to more than just our tiny population. Besides which, CNN has had two weeks to work up a story on Ashton’s death that they could have been using to promote the Lisa Ling show on October 6. I think they’re simply unaware that Ashton has died. I suppose I could contact Lisa Ling or someone else at CNN and tell them, but why would I want to do their job for them?

Fearmongering CNN benzodiazepines story promotes microtapers directed by strangers met online with no medical credentials; doctor bashers at Benzo Buddies start to cry after seeing screenshot

Re: Watch "This is Life" With Lisa Ling
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2019, 10:35:51 pm »

[Buddie]

Totally cried watching this as I saw myself. Thanks for posting.

Benzo Buddies targets famous psychologist Jordan Peterson for cult recruitment (N.B.: Scientology also routinely targets celebrities for cult recruitment)

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2019, 07:31:36 pm »

[Buddie]

maybe this would be a good time to reach out to her? I didn’t care right now about her meat diet. Her father could be goin through what we are going through. They have HUGE platforms. I suggest each of us send her a message wishing him health, sharing some of our story linking to Benzobuddies, , emphasizing the slow taper, and maybe linking to the Ashton manual. His politics and her beliefs are of no concern to me, just as I don’t “care” what any of yours are (in terms of my hope for your healing).

You could do this because it COULD help our cause, or else because it could help a fellow sufferer. Just a thought.

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2019, 09:31:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Here is the email I sent to Dr. Peterson’s daughter’s public email:

Mikhaila,

I’m so very sorry that you are dealing with your father’s klonopin issue, and so soon after your mother’s illness. I too am dependent on klonopin and I am working to get free. I took them as my doctor prescribed and was shocked to find I could not quit. Unfortunately most rehab centers believe in rapid taper, where you are quickly taken off the drug, often with other harmful drugs added to the mix.

This rarely works and often leads to long term damage.

The only safe way to heal from physical dependence (which is very different than addiction) is to slowly taper down. Addiction is a craving and can possibly be overcome by willpower, dependence is physiological and can happen with klonopin in as little as 4 weeks. It doesnÂ’t matter if it was used as prescribed or not. The dependency issue is the same.

Tapering, the slow reduction of the drug over months, is the only way to safely get through this without causing further (and perhaps permanent damage).

I would refer you to the best manual on benzo withdrawal, the Ashton Manual.

https://benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

The webpage is a little old fashioned but the information is critical.

Also, the best support group, with people who can supply tapering schedules, advice, info on supplements and drugs to avoid, etc is:

http://www.benzobuddies.org

Please reach out for help, quitting a benzo is not like quitting any other drug on earth.

I’m here if you have any questions.