Anti-psychiatry haven Benzo Buddies compares hospitals to prisons, warns members to stay away

Psych and detox facilities
« on: September 01, 2018, 01:53:44 am »

[Buddie]

I am watching Orange is the new black when I can, and cannot shake the feeling that American psych hospitals and (possibly, don’t have any experience with those) detox facilities are way too similar to prisons.

How you cannot leave the facilities, or have much of your personal stuff, phones, even a kindle, how visitation is limited, how you have this ancient wall phone, how you are treated like a child, how your complaints are ignored, how you are stuck with medications they think are best for you and not given what you need (I was refused my asthma inhaler once, despite wheezing!!!), how the food is awful and without much regard to your food sensitivities, how you are forced to the social activities. Some places it’s even physically dangerous, because they mix violent manic patients with detox patients.

Re: Psych and detox facilities
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2018, 02:49:37 am »

[Buddie]

Hi,

Although I’ve never been in a mental hospital, I have been to a voluntary hospital detox, sent there by a well meaning but clueless doctor to get off xanax. It was only 4 days, but it was awful. I don’t recommend this to anyone. Far from being an “easy” way to get off benzos, as some seem to think, it’s literally going from the frying pan into the fire for most of us who’ve experienced it:

Nine years ago, I went to a major Seattle hospital for “detox” where the doctor was supposed to be a “benzo expert.” He wasn’t, and I only saw him for a few minutes the whole time. All they did was cold turkey me off a high dose of xanax, feed me, and monitor my blood pressure for 4 days. I was the only benzo person on a floor full of alcoholics, and there was NO follow up treatment or counseling. Price: $16,000 (2009). Afterwards, I had hellish relentless symptoms that never stopped. These were so bad that I reinstated 4 months later, only to taper off a few years later. I’d kindled by then, and it 2.5 years for me to heal.

One thing, and I say this from my own experience. It might be better to limit watching tv shows or movies that disturb you. We tend to be extremely emotional and suggestible during withdrawal, and it’s often best to limit our exposure to such upsetting things. That’s what I did, and it helped. I focused on positive distractions like classic movies, audible books, spirituality, art, crafts, and short trips and walks out of the house. Anything that took my mind of my suffering for a little while,

:smitten:

Re: Psych and detox facilities
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2018, 03:35:09 am »

[Buddie]

Oh my gosh, your detox experience sounds horrible!

I’ve had that too, though, at regular hospitals: monitor blood pressure for several hours, and charge a thousand or two for it.

I’ve been bed ridden for 10 months, so I’ve watched all the feel good shows already. If you can recommend anything particular, that’d be great!

Re: Psych and detox facilities
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2018, 05:30:52 am »

[Buddie]

In my opinion….Detox centers are a waste of time and money. I could of done the same CT to me at home and had more money in my pocket. The pain and suffering would of been the same. The aftermath of what you experience when you leave a detox center is horrific. Your in a lot of pain searching for answers. I highly advise against it.

Re: Psych and detox facilities
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2018, 06:43:34 am »

[Buddie]

Yes. I wish doctors were not leaving their patients hanging and cutting them off, thereby forcing these dangerous detox situations. The revival of the market for the benzos had already happened in a big way in the last 10-15 years, and there is no backing out of it just like that, right now. What was prescribed needs to be carefully and slowly de-prescribed.

Benzo Buddies orders terrified addict to ignore doctor, reject psychiatric medication

Hello, My Story
« on: August 17, 2018, 01:25:54 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi. I’m in a bad situation because I decided to smoke weed with friends about three months ago and only one hit threw me into a mood frenzy. I was an insomniac for a week after, non stop crying, paranoid, and panic attacks. So I managed to get 1mg Xanax from a friend which I used for about 14 days at night for sleep to reset my sleep. The last four days, I cut it to .5mg and then .25mg. I then stopped because I felt fine. However, I have been having up and down mood swings, palpitations that make me fear a heart attack, restlessness, shaking, paranoia, and what feels like chronic fatigue. I fear for my life like the weed may have cause tachycardia or mitral valve prolapse. Is this just from my underlying anxiety or the CT from the xanax? I got a shaky episode the other night and had to use one to stop the tremors and feel it was a bad idea. I see a psychiatrist Monday and I am terrified because I can’t tell the doctor about the weed or the xanax because the medicine was not prescribed to me and I could get in trouble. What do I do? I fear my life may never be the same again. I am weak and tremoring as I write this. What if I’m developing mental illness? The only option is for the psych to prescribe me benzos or ssris. I don’t want either.

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 01:37:37 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello […],

Welcome to Benzo Buddies! I’m sorry you had such a severe effect from marijuana. Some strains can in fact increase anxiety, it appears you might have experienced this. Additionally, there might have been other substances in the marijuana that cause your reaction.

You took xanax for about two weeks. The recommended length of time for taking benzos is a maximum of two to three weeks, so you are right in that time frame. You are most likely feeling the effects from stopping xanax. There is likely to be withdrawal effects of some kind after two weeks of use. I do believe that these symptoms should ease up though, it may take a little while though.

If it were me, I would explain to the doctor what started your issues. If you don’t explain the cause, it is likely that the doctor will diagnose you with an anxiety disorder. If you didn’t have issues like this before using marijuana, then the effects you felt were due to the weed.

Your central nervous system took a hit with the marijuana and xanax. It may take a little while for things to settle, but they will. Try to distract from what you feel so that the fear doesn’t cause more issues.

I’ll give you a link to the Ashton Manual. It is an excellent resource about benzos and how to withdraw. It was written by Dr. Heather Ashton, an expert in the field. The manual does discuss tapering in detail but IMO, I would not suggest this for you. If it were me, I’d stay away from benzos and allow my body to recover.

I’ll also give you a link to the Post Withdrawal Recovery Board where you can post and receive feedback from members.

Your life will be the same, once your system recovers. I know this can be frightening, I felt the same way when I was directed to stop ativan for a medical test. I’m glad you’ve joined, you’ll find a lot of good information and support here. It’s going to be OK.

The Ashton Manual

Post-withdrawal Recovery Support

[…]  :)

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 02:13:00 pm »

[Buddie]

Thanks. If my psych has to give me something, what would be the best route as I am terrified of those withdrawals as well?

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 06:29:15 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 17, 2018, 02:13:00 pm
Thanks. If my psych has to give me something, what would be the best route as I am terrified of those withdrawals as well?

You don’t have to take any medication if offered. It is your body and you can make the decision as to what to put in it. I didn’t even know what a benzo was when I was prescribed it. I had no idea about it’s potential for dependency or withdrawal. I learned a big lesson; be proactive about what I take and question everything.

It’s been my experience that ‘some’ doctors want to medicate everything when there are other alternatives.

[…] :smitten:

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 07:04:06 pm »

[Buddie]

Yeah. I also forgot to mention that three days before the weed incident, I CT’d beer completely and for the past year I was drinking three to four to five a day. Could that have something to do with what I am going through maybe?

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can't stop obsessing
« on: August 07, 2018, 10:39:03 am »

[Buddie]

I haven’t been able to see or think of a future in so long. I spend so much time obsessing about the past, it’s all I have. I can’t see any future and the present is torture. I feel stick reliving old memories, they are so vivid. Why do I keep getting sicker, I thought time was meant to heal. How is it possible to regain your interests and passions if they have been gone for so long, I don’t understand how they can just come back.

Re: can't stop obsessing
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 04:55:51 pm »

[Buddie]

I am hesitant of even mentioning this, but have you tried or ever been prescribed a SSRI to manage these reoccurring, life disrupting, thoughts? I know, it’s another medication and there is even another entire forum dedicated to people getting off of SSRI’s. But, I will say, I was on one for a short period of time and it actually did work in terms of stopping intrusive thoughts and cyclic thought patterns of worry, grief, anxiety, etc.

Re: can't stop obsessing
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2018, 05:05:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 07, 2018, 04:55:51 pm
I am hesitant of even mentioning this, but have you tried or ever been prescribed a SSRI to manage these reoccurring, life disrupting, thoughts? I know, it’s another medication and there is even another entire forum dedicated to people getting off of SSRI’s. But, I will say, I was on one for a short period of time and it actually did work in terms of stopping intrusive thoughts and cyclic thought patterns of worry, grief, anxiety, etc.

I also have intrusive thoughts, and OCD as well. The only problem I have with going on an SSRI is that I may be overcome with side-effects, and the need to take benzos again. It’s a “What if” situation and I don’t know what to do. I was on Zoloft 12 years ago, but had been taking Xanax. Tried it again in 2016, without benzos, and it was intolerable after 3 days so I stopped. I took Lexapro late last year, along with Klonopin, for six weeks, but quit right after stopping Klonopin. I had joined that SSRI website you mentioned and of course read all the negative stuff, which influenced me to stop the Lexapro. I really don’t know what’s best, I’m trying to do this w/o the SSRI’s, but it’s very, very difficult.

Anti-psychiatry cult lies about doctor cold turkeying someone who has been on benzos for 40 years

HI I'M NEW
« on: August 04, 2018, 11:59:09 pm »

[Buddie]

I joined because I need support. Been on benzo’s for years since 18 now 58 only 1 mg I tapered for 2 months down to 0.5 a day and my doctor found out I was trying to quit and cold turkey me..2 months of sweating,now it’s sweating w cold body and low body temp. I am scared. ANYONE BEEN THRU IT LIKE THIS SWEATING AND COLD
/ HOW LONG..IT FEELS FOREVER.

Benzo Buddies busted promoting Scientology’s anti-psychiatry front group CCHR

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The Real Truth About Psychiatric Drugs
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:35:42 pm »

[Buddie]

In this video, Dr. Berg interviews a guest, Dr. Linda Lagemann a Clinical Psychologist for 25 years and an associate professor in a top medical school.

Screenshot of original Benzo Buddies post (right click to enlarge)

Dr. Lagemann’s Scientology connections

http://www.scientologynews.org/press-releases/exhibit-exposes-past-and-present-psychiatric-human-rights-abuses.html

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https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/11/scientology-not-very-effective-in-washington-politics-but-it-tries-tries-again/

https://www.facebook.com/ScientologySeattle/photos/a.450242318321385.107209.448127055199578/1273543312657944/?type=1&theater

https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-33/

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Doctor-hating Benzo Buddies member forces friend fighting cancer to not take life-saving medication

Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« on: June 13, 2018, 02:30:12 pm »

[Buddie]

Got a call from a good friend. He’s been fighting cancer for sometime now and is taking 8 different meds a day. The whole process is really starting to make him feel bad. Boy when his doctor heard that he wasted no time scratching out a double script for kolonapin and Zoloft. As if the poor guy ain’t got enough problems already to deal with. He called me and asked what poisons messed me all up and when I told him he fired both meds in the garbage. He never took any thank god. It makes me so angry that these doctors push this crap without a second thought. All he said is that he felt bad about his health situation and that statement earn him 2 poisons that would of destroyed him.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 02:32:14 pm »

[Buddie]

yup. 90% of the medical system is a money making scam. there is some limited good stuff, if you break a bone and those type of things. but staying away from chemicals is the key to good health.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 03:28:45 pm »

[Buddie]

my hat is off to you for saving your friend from futher agony. these doctors these days shell this poison out like candy. they should be held accountable for this. keep up the good work!

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 03:55:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Good job. I had a friend recently also turn down ADs because she thought of me and my suffering, and then said, “No.”.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 03:57:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I think they use it as a gateway drug to get you on other meds $$$$$$$$ I will keep informing as many as I can for the rest of my life to help others not have to go through the hell we here on BB have and are. I did email a local tv station a while back about this benzo situation but I never heard anything from them. They seem to only want to run stories about pain meds. Benzos are 20 times worse. I’ll keep fighting.
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Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 06:11:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m 5 months out of C/T (uninformed) Klonopin. Horrible withdrawal experiences. I moved to a new town and got a new PCP. On my new history chart I wrote I was allergic to any and all antidepressants and benzos. The nurse reviewing my chart laughed when she read this. She said “You’re allergic…I can’t make it through the day without mine!” What kind of message is this sending out to us poor unsuspecting patients that unknowingly blindly trust these so called medical professionals?

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 06:25:55 pm »

[Buddie]

I wish that my daughter would listen to me and take my wonderful grand daughter off the A.Ds and benzos that her Dr / Therapist prescribed. It breaks my heart that my clueless daughter would rather believe an unthinking and careless professional than her mother . By not listening to me she discounts all the evidence, knowledge and heartbreak that my recovery has brought to our family. I have given her access to all the information that is out there and nothing has helped change her mind. Gracie is seventeen and cannot make her own choices. All I can do is be there for her if the worst happens .

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 06:37:08 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 13, 2018, 06:25:55 pm
I wish that my daughter would listen to me and take my wonderful grand daughter off the A.Ds and benzos that her Dr / Therapist prescribed. It breaks my heart that my clueless daughter would rather believe an unthinking and careless professional than her mother . By not listening to me she discounts all the evidence, knowledge and heartbreak that my recovery has brought to our family. I have given her access to all the information that is out there and nothing has helped change her mind. Gracie is seventeen and cannot make her own choices. All I can do is be there for her if the worst happens .

Oh […], that would drive me nuts! :tickedoff: I get really mad when I hear about children being drugged. I definitely sympathize with you.