Benzo Buddies orders terrified addict to ignore doctor, reject psychiatric medication

Hello, My Story
« on: August 17, 2018, 01:25:54 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi. I’m in a bad situation because I decided to smoke weed with friends about three months ago and only one hit threw me into a mood frenzy. I was an insomniac for a week after, non stop crying, paranoid, and panic attacks. So I managed to get 1mg Xanax from a friend which I used for about 14 days at night for sleep to reset my sleep. The last four days, I cut it to .5mg and then .25mg. I then stopped because I felt fine. However, I have been having up and down mood swings, palpitations that make me fear a heart attack, restlessness, shaking, paranoia, and what feels like chronic fatigue. I fear for my life like the weed may have cause tachycardia or mitral valve prolapse. Is this just from my underlying anxiety or the CT from the xanax? I got a shaky episode the other night and had to use one to stop the tremors and feel it was a bad idea. I see a psychiatrist Monday and I am terrified because I can’t tell the doctor about the weed or the xanax because the medicine was not prescribed to me and I could get in trouble. What do I do? I fear my life may never be the same again. I am weak and tremoring as I write this. What if I’m developing mental illness? The only option is for the psych to prescribe me benzos or ssris. I don’t want either.

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 01:37:37 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello […],

Welcome to Benzo Buddies! I’m sorry you had such a severe effect from marijuana. Some strains can in fact increase anxiety, it appears you might have experienced this. Additionally, there might have been other substances in the marijuana that cause your reaction.

You took xanax for about two weeks. The recommended length of time for taking benzos is a maximum of two to three weeks, so you are right in that time frame. You are most likely feeling the effects from stopping xanax. There is likely to be withdrawal effects of some kind after two weeks of use. I do believe that these symptoms should ease up though, it may take a little while though.

If it were me, I would explain to the doctor what started your issues. If you don’t explain the cause, it is likely that the doctor will diagnose you with an anxiety disorder. If you didn’t have issues like this before using marijuana, then the effects you felt were due to the weed.

Your central nervous system took a hit with the marijuana and xanax. It may take a little while for things to settle, but they will. Try to distract from what you feel so that the fear doesn’t cause more issues.

I’ll give you a link to the Ashton Manual. It is an excellent resource about benzos and how to withdraw. It was written by Dr. Heather Ashton, an expert in the field. The manual does discuss tapering in detail but IMO, I would not suggest this for you. If it were me, I’d stay away from benzos and allow my body to recover.

I’ll also give you a link to the Post Withdrawal Recovery Board where you can post and receive feedback from members.

Your life will be the same, once your system recovers. I know this can be frightening, I felt the same way when I was directed to stop ativan for a medical test. I’m glad you’ve joined, you’ll find a lot of good information and support here. It’s going to be OK.

The Ashton Manual

Post-withdrawal Recovery Support

[…]  :)

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 02:13:00 pm »

[Buddie]

Thanks. If my psych has to give me something, what would be the best route as I am terrified of those withdrawals as well?

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 06:29:15 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 17, 2018, 02:13:00 pm
Thanks. If my psych has to give me something, what would be the best route as I am terrified of those withdrawals as well?

You don’t have to take any medication if offered. It is your body and you can make the decision as to what to put in it. I didn’t even know what a benzo was when I was prescribed it. I had no idea about it’s potential for dependency or withdrawal. I learned a big lesson; be proactive about what I take and question everything.

It’s been my experience that ‘some’ doctors want to medicate everything when there are other alternatives.

[…] :smitten:

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 07:04:06 pm »

[Buddie]

Yeah. I also forgot to mention that three days before the weed incident, I CT’d beer completely and for the past year I was drinking three to four to five a day. Could that have something to do with what I am going through maybe?

The antipsychiatry movement: Who and why

Psychiatry is the only medical specialty with a longtime nemesis; it’s called “antipsychiatry,” and it has been active for almost 2 centuries. Although psychiatry has evolved into a major scientific and medical discipline, the century-old primitive stage of psychiatric treatments instigated an antagonism toward psychiatry that persists to the present day.

Read more: https://www.mdedge.com/psychiatry/article/64548/practice-management/antipsychiatry-movement-who-and-why

Benzo Buddies hides pro-CCHR post, concealing pro-Scientology outlook

Benzo Buddies busted promoting Scientology’s anti-psychiatry front group CCHR

Benzo Buddies anti-psychiatry cult discourages members from even mentioning SSRIs to members with OCD

can't stop obsessing
« on: August 07, 2018, 10:39:03 am »

[Buddie]

I haven’t been able to see or think of a future in so long. I spend so much time obsessing about the past, it’s all I have. I can’t see any future and the present is torture. I feel stick reliving old memories, they are so vivid. Why do I keep getting sicker, I thought time was meant to heal. How is it possible to regain your interests and passions if they have been gone for so long, I don’t understand how they can just come back.

Re: can't stop obsessing
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 04:55:51 pm »

[Buddie]

I am hesitant of even mentioning this, but have you tried or ever been prescribed a SSRI to manage these reoccurring, life disrupting, thoughts? I know, it’s another medication and there is even another entire forum dedicated to people getting off of SSRI’s. But, I will say, I was on one for a short period of time and it actually did work in terms of stopping intrusive thoughts and cyclic thought patterns of worry, grief, anxiety, etc.

Re: can't stop obsessing
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2018, 05:05:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 07, 2018, 04:55:51 pm
I am hesitant of even mentioning this, but have you tried or ever been prescribed a SSRI to manage these reoccurring, life disrupting, thoughts? I know, it’s another medication and there is even another entire forum dedicated to people getting off of SSRI’s. But, I will say, I was on one for a short period of time and it actually did work in terms of stopping intrusive thoughts and cyclic thought patterns of worry, grief, anxiety, etc.

I also have intrusive thoughts, and OCD as well. The only problem I have with going on an SSRI is that I may be overcome with side-effects, and the need to take benzos again. It’s a “What if” situation and I don’t know what to do. I was on Zoloft 12 years ago, but had been taking Xanax. Tried it again in 2016, without benzos, and it was intolerable after 3 days so I stopped. I took Lexapro late last year, along with Klonopin, for six weeks, but quit right after stopping Klonopin. I had joined that SSRI website you mentioned and of course read all the negative stuff, which influenced me to stop the Lexapro. I really don’t know what’s best, I’m trying to do this w/o the SSRI’s, but it’s very, very difficult.

Anti-psychiatry cult lies about doctor cold turkeying someone who has been on benzos for 40 years

HI I'M NEW
« on: August 04, 2018, 11:59:09 pm »

[Buddie]

I joined because I need support. Been on benzo’s for years since 18 now 58 only 1 mg I tapered for 2 months down to 0.5 a day and my doctor found out I was trying to quit and cold turkey me..2 months of sweating,now it’s sweating w cold body and low body temp. I am scared. ANYONE BEEN THRU IT LIKE THIS SWEATING AND COLD
/ HOW LONG..IT FEELS FOREVER.

Benzo Buddies busted promoting Scientology’s anti-psychiatry front group CCHR

Benzo Buddies states they are not associated with Scientology, or its anti-psychiatry front group Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), yet here Benzo Buddies promotes a CCHR Commissioner named Dr. Linda Lagemann.

The Real Truth About Psychiatric Drugs
« on: July 25, 2018, 01:35:42 pm »

[Buddie]

In this video, Dr. Berg interviews a guest, Dr. Linda Lagemann a Clinical Psychologist for 25 years and an associate professor in a top medical school.

Screenshot of original Benzo Buddies post (right click to enlarge)

Dr. Lagemann’s Scientology connections

http://www.scientologynews.org/press-releases/exhibit-exposes-past-and-present-psychiatric-human-rights-abuses.html

https://www.facebook.com/events/623090814535149/

https://tonyortega.org/2016/12/11/scientology-not-very-effective-in-washington-politics-but-it-tries-tries-again/

https://www.facebook.com/ScientologySeattle/photos/a.450242318321385.107209.448127055199578/1273543312657944/?type=1&theater

https://www.mikerindersblog.org/thursday-funnies-33/

https://www.facebook.com/events/623090814535149/

Doctor-hating Benzo Buddies member forces friend fighting cancer to not take life-saving medication

Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« on: June 13, 2018, 02:30:12 pm »

[Buddie]

Got a call from a good friend. He’s been fighting cancer for sometime now and is taking 8 different meds a day. The whole process is really starting to make him feel bad. Boy when his doctor heard that he wasted no time scratching out a double script for kolonapin and Zoloft. As if the poor guy ain’t got enough problems already to deal with. He called me and asked what poisons messed me all up and when I told him he fired both meds in the garbage. He never took any thank god. It makes me so angry that these doctors push this crap without a second thought. All he said is that he felt bad about his health situation and that statement earn him 2 poisons that would of destroyed him.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 02:32:14 pm »

[Buddie]

yup. 90% of the medical system is a money making scam. there is some limited good stuff, if you break a bone and those type of things. but staying away from chemicals is the key to good health.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 03:28:45 pm »

[Buddie]

my hat is off to you for saving your friend from futher agony. these doctors these days shell this poison out like candy. they should be held accountable for this. keep up the good work!

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 03:55:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Good job. I had a friend recently also turn down ADs because she thought of me and my suffering, and then said, “No.”.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 03:57:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I think they use it as a gateway drug to get you on other meds $$$$$$$$ I will keep informing as many as I can for the rest of my life to help others not have to go through the hell we here on BB have and are. I did email a local tv station a while back about this benzo situation but I never heard anything from them. They seem to only want to run stories about pain meds. Benzos are 20 times worse. I’ll keep fighting.
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Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 06:11:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m 5 months out of C/T (uninformed) Klonopin. Horrible withdrawal experiences. I moved to a new town and got a new PCP. On my new history chart I wrote I was allergic to any and all antidepressants and benzos. The nurse reviewing my chart laughed when she read this. She said “You’re allergic…I can’t make it through the day without mine!” What kind of message is this sending out to us poor unsuspecting patients that unknowingly blindly trust these so called medical professionals?

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 06:25:55 pm »

[Buddie]

I wish that my daughter would listen to me and take my wonderful grand daughter off the A.Ds and benzos that her Dr / Therapist prescribed. It breaks my heart that my clueless daughter would rather believe an unthinking and careless professional than her mother . By not listening to me she discounts all the evidence, knowledge and heartbreak that my recovery has brought to our family. I have given her access to all the information that is out there and nothing has helped change her mind. Gracie is seventeen and cannot make her own choices. All I can do is be there for her if the worst happens .

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 06:37:08 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 13, 2018, 06:25:55 pm
I wish that my daughter would listen to me and take my wonderful grand daughter off the A.Ds and benzos that her Dr / Therapist prescribed. It breaks my heart that my clueless daughter would rather believe an unthinking and careless professional than her mother . By not listening to me she discounts all the evidence, knowledge and heartbreak that my recovery has brought to our family. I have given her access to all the information that is out there and nothing has helped change her mind. Gracie is seventeen and cannot make her own choices. All I can do is be there for her if the worst happens .

Oh […], that would drive me nuts! :tickedoff: I get really mad when I hear about children being drugged. I definitely sympathize with you.

Anti-psychiatry cult blames Big Pharma and doctors for Anthony Bourdain suicide

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2018, 04:03:12 pm »

[Buddie]

I googled, “How does Anthony Bourdain sleep on the plane” and came up with this interview, posted two years ago:

How I Travel: Anthony Bourdain
https://www.bootsnall.com/articles/how-i-travel-anthony-bourdain.html

“I generally knock myself out with Valium and try and sleep through the flight. Seems to work for my crew also.”

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2018, 04:04:45 pm »

[Buddie]

:( :( :(

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2018, 04:21:38 pm »

[Buddie]

:( :( :(

And there’s this, which is more anecdotal:

https://www.quora.com/Does-Anthony-Bourdain-still-do-drugs-Is-he-still-an-active-addict

E.g in The Layover he mentions taking some “medication” to put him to sleep on the plane which knocked him out for hours.That & his drinking.

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2018, 04:47:36 pm »

[Buddie]

Okay, I just googled “Anthony Bourdain and Valium” and came up with this:

Jan.15, 2013, Page 6
https://pagesix.com/2013/01/15/anthony-bourdains-launches-epic-rant-after-plane-seat-incident/

The cranky cook even visited the panini bar to wait for his flight when he found out what was causing the delay. He also sarcastically wrote, “But I had timed my airport margaritas and Valium for a timely departure.”

And he traveled apparently 280 days of the year…

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2018, 05:04:15 pm »

[Buddie]

Tony’s 13 Things I Won’t Leave Home Without
https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/anthony-bourdain/articles/tonys-13-things-i-wont-leave-home-without

11. Valium or Similar Substance
For long flights and for adjusting to new time zones.

« Last Edit: June 10, 2018, 05:13:33 pm by [Buddie] »

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2018, 05:09:54 pm »

[Buddie]

Seems a bit like they were as innocuous as breath mints or gum. Just stick ’em in your carry-on luggage to make you comfy when travelling.

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2018, 05:14:04 pm »

[Buddie]

Yup, seems to be. Here he is on Twitter:

Feb. 2011

Jammies. Check. Jerky treats. Check. Valium. Check. Oh, Jesus! beer! Nada!

Jan. 2012

One more episode of “My Little Pony”, pop a Valium. Fly to Finland.

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2018, 05:42:56 pm »

[Buddie]

Ugh. :(

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2018, 05:45:00 pm »

[Buddie]

It is so desperately sad. >:( >:(

Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2018, 07:23:59 pm »

[Buddie]

:'( :'( Re: Yep, Its Confirmed Kate Spade was on Anxiety Meds « Reply #24 on: June 10, 2018, 08:52:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 10, 2018, 05:45:00 pm
It is so desperately sad. >:( >:(

It is and the Dr prob never warned him of any of the horrors they can cause, including depression and it was well known by people that knew him, he had depression. Hurt and anger :-\

14 months of brainwashing fails as cult member goes back on medication

Bit the bullet...
« on: December 03, 2017, 05:06:34 pm »

[Buddie]

So today I decided that I have suffered enough… 14 months. I’ve decided to take Zoloft at 25mg to start. It may make things better, it may make things worth however, at this point in my recovery I have nothing to lose because my depression is getting worse by the day. Thank you everyone for your support and listening to my rants. I’ve tried everything to stabilize… maybe some people who did the same will chime in and give me some hope.

love to all,

Doctor bashers bully suicidal patient

I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
 « on: November 17, 2017, 05:19:42 am »

[Buddie]

I’m trying so hard not to go back on Klonopin but I can’t take much more of this. My anxiety and akathisia is so bad I feel like I’m stuck in a never ending panic attack. How can I be feeling this bad 15 months off benzos? I feel worse now than I did when I started my taper.

edit: self-harm reference removed.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2017, 05:39:29 am by [Buddie] »

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2017, 05:31:28 am »

[Buddie]

Hi […],
Your 15 months off this crap, you hang in there!!!!
It does get better. I’m just about 17 months off and life is good. You can do this. Reinstatement could make things worse then what’s going on now.
Think it threw real good before you do that.
Imo if you’ve went threw 15 months your very close to feeling better.
Don’t give up !!
We all heal !! Yeah I know waiting is hard with symptoms. But distract and stay positive. It’s coming 😁😁 […]

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2017, 06:09:14 am »

[Buddie]

Keep battling!!!!

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2017, 06:18:00 am »

[Buddie]

I’m sorry that you’re feeling so bad. How did you do your withdrawal? I’m just curious. Your signature just says that you jumped.

Anyway, I agree with […] that you should try to not reinstate. There was a reason that you decided to stop taking klonopin. It wasn’t working for you in some respect. Going back on it will probably just bring that problem up again.

It doesn’t help to compare time lines. People heal at different rates. I don’t think anybody understands why it’s that way or can predict who will heal faster/slower. A few days ago, I read a very positive post from a buddie who had been feeling very poorly for longer than you have, and in the past two months, it’s gotten significantly better for her.

How are you doing otherwise? Are you eating well? What kinds of things are you still able to do? Sucks that you’re suffering from akathisia. Does that prevent you from getting out or are you just uncomfortable in certain situations? I think people who are able to get out and at least take a long walk are better able to cope with their anxiety. Long walks are great distractions. I rode a bike a lot during my withdrawal. Not very fast, but sometimes for hours.

I need to mention that I removed part of a sentence from your original post on this thread. It referred to thoughts of self-harm and those kinds of comments can be really upsetting to some of our members. Many are just as anxious as you, and they don’t need any extra ‘excitement’. I hope you understand.

I know this ordeal is difficult, but for those who see it through, it works out. Try to relax as best you can. Distraction and mindfulness are your allies. Hang in there, and try not to despair.

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2017, 09:17:43 am »

[Buddie]

I know I shouldn’t reinstate Klonopin but if I can’t cope, I don’t really have a choice. Klonopin completely ruined my life. I’m actually seeing a psychologist in January for disability benefits because there’s no way I can work with the tremendous amount of anxiety and depression I experience on a daily basis. I feel like a totally different person. I don’t enjoy any of the activities that I used to enjoy. I used to build computers and program applications for fun. I’ve totally lost interest in that. It’s like I’m stuck in a dysphoric state of mind and nothing satisfies me anymore. Distracting myself is nearly impossible because I can’t get my problems and thoughts of harming myself out of my head. Also, I’ve turned into a recluse because it’s become extremely hard for me to talk to people. I can’t hold a conversation. I speak in very short and sometimes incomplete sentences. I’m hoping the psychologist will notice all of this so I get disability benefits.
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Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2017, 09:36:45 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on November 17, 2017, 05:19:42 am
I’m trying so hard not to go back on Klonopin but I can’t take much more of this. My anxiety and akathisia is so bad I feel like I’m stuck in a never ending panic attack. How can I be feeling this bad 15 months off benzos? I feel worse now than I did when I started my taper.

edit: self-harm reference removed.

Hi […]  I know its a little further out than you are now but I’m sure you’d be more than welcomed to join this group their nice people its the 18 to 30 month post jump group http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=141544.0;topicseen. I hope its of help to you 

Love […] xxx 

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2017, 12:46:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Are you taking any other poison right now that doctor prescribed you?

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2017, 03:55:42 pm »

[Buddie]

Nope, I’m not taking any prescription medication.

Re: I might have to reinstate Klonopin.
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2017, 07:55:00 pm »

[Buddie]

Hang in there. Kpin turned it’s back on me and I would never take that rat poison again. If I took it again, I feel it would makes things even worse.