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Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« on: August 28, 2014, 03:42:26 am »

Girlscanwearjeans

I healed after 4 years off xanax, was doing really well for 5 years. Had some stress, over exercised, over dieted, supplements. Am 2 months into a setback.

Anyone else heal from a setback? Please only positive stories as I’m feeling very fragile. The symptoms feel almost as bad as the beginning of withdrawal. The only difference is I’m having windows and waves almost daily, healing a lot quicker this time around.

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 05:17:59 am »

prettydaisys

can you describe your symptoms? i think it’s a good thing that you’re having windows and waves every day. means that you’re cycling through the symptoms and they’re not just staying the same.

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 05:31:48 am »

Girlscanwearjeans

Hello! Thanks for your response!

My symptoms started with dizziness, went away for a couple of days, then flu like symptoms and then progressively went into full blown withdrawal symptoms.

  • burning feet
  • anxiety/adrenaline rushes
  • off balance
  • sensitive to heat
  • depression/fatigue
  • emotionally numb (sometimes)
Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 05:35:16 am »

Girlscanwearjeans

For the first month I went up and down like a yoyo! Cycled through windows and waves every day, second month still cycling every few days but less severe for the most part, with the exception of at the moment things feel pretty bad but then ease up. Am having hours of feeling pretty normal (maybe 70 – 80%) but doesn’t last long, feel slightly better after every wave.

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2014, 11:02:57 am »

rockfan1975

Could it have been any medication you were taking for something else? Dietary like caffiene, sugar or maybe alcohol that triggered it?

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2014, 12:32:59 pm »

ryan

I am only (ha!) 5 years into withdrawal but I have noticed that I always fall into a nasty setback (recurrence of old symptoms, overall increase in intensity, etc) before I get improvements in my baseline condition. I believe it’s a sign of healing. Even though you’ve been feeling better for so long, I think it takes many years for us to completely heal. There are still very subtle changes happening in our nervous systems even when we feel completely better. Your situation seems to be rather common, unfortunately. I spoke to Matt Sammet last year (author of ‘Death Grip’) and he was experiencing the exact same thing around 7 or 8 years off.

I think it’s highly probable that you’ll feel even better after this passes. Maybe there is some little physical or mental thing you don’t even associate with benzo withdrawal that will improve after this. Remind yourself that it will not last much longer and that it’s just a sign of further healing of your brain.

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2014, 01:51:34 pm »

Girlscanwearjeans

I was at work and all of a sudden it was BANG! I had been on a vegan diet and over exercised and was slowly going down hill.

And as for more healing this far out, I agree, I was thinking that last week when I was having fits of emotional outbursts, it’s like I have been slightly numb all these years off, not enough to bother me, as I was doing so well.

How is Matt Samet going? Read his setback story from last year but he seems to have disappeared? Would love a follow up or if anyone knows how he is?

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2014, 02:27:29 pm »

Hope4444

I have been in touch with Matt Samet via email a few times and just recently. He’s still struggling but seeing slow improvement. He’s able to get out for walks, etc again. He’s expecting a 2nd child in October and that is keeping him busy.

Hope you feel better soon!

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2014, 04:59:06 pm »

Girlscanwearjeans

Thank you, I hope Matt us a lot better than he was when he wrote the Setback article, makes me scared, I am able to power walk a couple of times a day for an hour each which is good, it’s the anxiety and depression that get me, that are slowly improving though. Having waves and small windows all the time is quite strange as it’s hard to plan anything (I can’t work anyway) I could be up down or sideways at any given point!

I hope frequent waves means a more rapid recovery

Re: Anyone have advice for setback after 9 years off?
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2014, 09:25:20 pm »

gettingthere

There is another buddie who had a setback after going vegan, I wonder if there is a connection. Glad you are feeling better already. That’s a good sign. It seems this will be short lived for you.

Cult members admit abusing drugs and alcohol but blame benzos, want doctors to suffer

Re: Just a question...
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 08:27:53 pm »

CNSdemessed

I was somewhat afraid of drugs until I was 17. Then I started my recreational drug use with cannabis that would eventually lead me to my current situation (just turned 20 and in benzo w/d); stimulants were my favourites but as time went on I developed a taste for benzos and opiates (even the big H, just once 4 months ago though; oxy was my d.o.c for a while). I’m not proud of taking any of them but as far as I’ve come I still wouldn’t take back the experience if I had the opportunity to.

Once I tasted one I had to try them all. Along with frequent alcohol use all I used to do before I quit benzos was take various drugs on a daily basis. Didn’t really look at it as a problem until it hospitalised me and I was never prescribed any benzos until then. Drugs counsilling starts next week  

Re: Just a question...
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2014, 08:06:21 pm »

brunettescorpio

The thought of psychotropic drugs never cross my mind. After my mother passed away, I had a difficult time dealing with the loss, I miss her so much, I just thought I would have to deal with the sinking feeling in my stomach till it evenly stopped….but the boyfriend I had a the time and his neighbor who is a nurse thought I wasn’t getting over it as fast as THEY thought I should and convinced me to get “something” from my dr. The neighbor who is the nurse came over to my boyfriend’s house and gave me one of her Ativan’s and said, here, take this, it’s safe, get your dr. to give you this…..and like an idiot, I trusted them. So, I went to my dr. and he said, oh, yeah, it’s no different than taking a vitamin and gave me a prescription. WORST ADVICE EVER !!!!!! I get so angry at that, especially when I think about how my health and my life have been destroyed, and they’re just going on about their lives happy go=lucky……while I suffer in pain and misery every day. I find myself wishing for revenge, hoping that karma will bite them in the butt and hoping that they experience some kind life altering event that makes them suffer as much as I have. Needless to say that bf, is no longer a bf…..once I got sick b/c of the Ativan w/d, he had the nerve to tell me it was out of his way to come to my house….pretty rotten considering he and his neighbor pushed me in that direction in the first place.  

Setting stage for another cult suicide, Benzo Buddies anti-psychiatry zealots tell man just released from ER not to take his Prozac

I need Help - I just got off the ER - want to use Prozac
« on: September 23, 2014, 06:58:16 pm »

Texfernand

Hi, I need Help ,

I just got off the ER – want to use Prozac to calm the anxiety and depression, I been told that Lorazepan (ativan) its only for panic attacks , and last few hours, I take 0.5 twice a day, but I don’t feel good, Most of the time I got symptoms, specially chess pain,
sometimes I feel good except for the little chess pain. yesterday I went to ER for heart beat elevation, they rule My heart is OK,
but I left the hospital with chess pain, I this point I want to do something, I feel that this is getting worse, I been in lorazepan for 7 months, just two month ago I increase to two pills a day, but I feel that I need 3.

I know I have anxiety and depression and I need something to deal with it. My doctor prescribe Prozac 10.0 ml, but I did not start taking it yet, I want a advice, I read a lot that is going to be worse, that I going to get two addictions and more symptoms ,

At this point I dont know what to do, but I need to do something, there are some supplements that work on serotonin, same as Prozac, I rather use Prozac than supplements.

PLEASE HELP ME. I WANT TO GET RID OF LORAZEPAN SLOWLY WITH PROZAC HELP.

Re: I need Help - I just got off the ER - want to use Prozac
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 08:39:10 pm »

Disney Girl

All I can say is my personal experience with Prozac is that it made me feel real speedy. Not a good feeling.

I only took it for just under 2 weeks, and then stopped.
Thanks

Re: I need Help - I just got off the ER - want to use Prozac
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 09:27:12 pm »

SeraBear

I replied to you on another thread, but will write something here too. I don’t think its a good idea to add another drug when you are already having trouble getting off one. You now have one problem, then you will have two. There are sites just like this for people trying to get off drugs like Prozac.

Like I suggested in my other post to you, look at spreading your dose over several doses so that you are not getting rebound anxiety from it being so short acting or perhaps you could switch to a longer acting benzo and then taper off that.

Re: I need Help - I just got off the ER - want to use Prozac
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 10:23:52 pm »

snow4fun

If you need something for anxiety and your doctor has suggested Prozac you can always give it a try to see if it helps your anxiety. It’s up to you how you decide what’s best for you to handle the anxiety that you have.

Re: I need Help - I just got off the ER - want to use Prozac
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 04:30:50 pm »

NYC4

Hope you’re doing OK, Snow4Fun.

I’ve been on prozac about 4 weeks now and keep wondering if it’s what’s making my anxiety peak too. Plus reducing ativan. It’s all driving me up the wall, to say the least.

Re: I need Help - I just got off the ER - want to use Prozac
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 04:42:09 pm »

benzogirl

Prozac increased my anxiety by 10-fold. I drop kicked it after a week. ~~ Bets