Benzo class action suit will never go anywhere

Re: Benzo Class Action Lawsuit via Facebook Group
« Reply #115 on: July 26, 2017, 06:20:40 pm »

[Buddie]

I suppose that this went nowhere?

FDA MedWatch Program campaign failing, only 277 kooks fill out complaints to date

“277 reports may not be enough!” – panicked Benzo Buddies member

Benzo Buddies claims to have 33,085 members yet can’t rouse a paltry 1% of them to fill out a complaint to the FDA. The tiny, secret Facebook groups have perhaps 2000 members combined (most join multiple groups in order amplify the self-pity they can wallow in everyday as they talk about how bottled water can send them into a wave) but despite hounding by zealots can’t get more than a handful of their members to do this.

Trouble at BALA?

The word on the street is that an admin – a very special admin – has been booted from the tiny private club for being negative, bordering on abusive, toward fellow addicts.

I wonder if this palace coup has to do with accusations of Benzodiazepine Information Coalition addict shaming by Benzo Buddies members?

Kooks compare their struggle with drug addiction to Martin Luther King and the civil rights struggle

New Blog About Community Silence Versus Action
« on: June 23, 2017, 07:33:29 pm »

[Buddie]

https://www.benzoinfo.com/single-post/2017/06/23/After-60-Years-of-Silence-A-Highly-Funded-Organization-Can-Finally-Help-Us-Can-Our-Community-Organize-to-Tell-them-How

Re: New Blog About Community Silence Versus Action
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 05:09:35 am »

[Buddie]

This is so important. Just reading this document chokes me up. I would fill out this FDA Report a thousand times myself if I could, but I can’t do it even once because I’m in Canada and it wouldn’t count.

What I can do is bump this.

“When I finally got a 4 mg fix from that ER doctor what a great high that was!”

Re: Addiction/Dependence Discussion
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2017, 06:04:04 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 25, 2017, 05:07:42 pm
Those of you who don’t understand the difference between dependence and addiction, have never actually had an addiction.
<<“Those of you who don’t understand the difference between dependence and addiction, have never actually had an addiction.”>>

I’ve had both. I am currently dependent on immunosuppressants to control an autoimmune disease. Without them, the disease would progress to a dangerous stage. There are side effects but there is no withdrawal. Thank goodness I’m not also dependent on Insulin. But I do depend on the U.S. Postal Service, as unwise as that may seem.

But, up until 6 months ago, I had been physically addicted to lorazepam for 20 years. I engaged in drug seeking behavior. When faced with the possibility of running out of the drug, I would contact my dealer (doctor) and arrange for a stealthy pick-up (pharmacy). And there certainly was withdrawal every six hours, although not as difficult as when my first supplier 20 years ago abruptly cut off my 3mg daily supply of Xanax and I ended up in fetal position on my bathroom floor begging God to kill me. (But boy, when I finally got a 4 mg fix from that ER doctor…what great high that was!)

So yes, I understand the difference between dependence and addiction because I’ve experienced both. But, honestly, that’s not why I take issue with the herd moving toward the nice, safe-space-friendly word “dependence.” The beef I have with the word is that it has no clear meaning “out there.” No edge, no bite and too many word-associations that dilute its meaning. It’s not the kind of word that motivates action and can help force a solution to a public health problem. I’ll give you this, though, it’s better than “iatrogenically injured.” Try that one on Main Street!

BALA admins crack the whip on mentally ill members as FDA campaign stalls

Like the failed owner of Benzo Buddies, BALA is delusional re: active membership i.e. the majority of BALA (or Benzo Buddies) members are not active, don’t do anything except sit and moan 24/7 about how doctors fucked them over.

BALA is even giving away money and still can’t get more than a handful of addicts (less than 1% of their tiny membership) to fill out the form.

I wonder if, out of desperation, the BALA gurus will start sending in fake complaints to the FDA?

Welcome to the real world kooks. Stay on your meds.

Benzodiazepine Information Coalition accused of “addict shaming” by Benzo Buddies members

Re: Benzodiazepine information coalition: does this place exist?
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2017, 01:34:52 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 22, 2017, 09:53:40 pm
Quote from: [Buddie] on June 22, 2017, 09:32:51 pm
[…],

wanted to ask you your thoughts about the difference between the benzo’s “withdrawal” damage/injury iatrogenic illness, benzo discontinuation syndrome or whatever you want to call it and opiate addiction? because i know for me that opiates caused a craving where as i never craved benzos. you know what i mean/ there’s just a difference in these two drugs. i ponder this a lot.

My only experience with opiates has been the few times I have taken hydorcodone or percocet. I remember having this “wow” feeling the first time I took them so I can see how they could rope someone in.

It seems like benzo withdrawal (or whatever you want to call it) is a completely different animal. They don’t create physical cravings for most people but the severity and duration of the damage they cause to the body seems to be worse in general. I wouldn’t want to find myself addicted to opiates but if I could trade that for what I have experienced over the past 6.5 years from benzos I would do it in a heartbeat. At least if the bulk of your problem is staying off the drugs you might have a fighting chance.

Denying that benzos create physical craving in most people is simply addict shaming, […]. It’s intolerance and approaches bigotry. It shuts down conversation about benzos and is seen by many professionals and lay people as denial. Denial is a hallmark of addiction. This conversation is unpopular here and it’s not my fight. My fight is overcoming a lifetime of taking these pills and regaining my life.

Benzo craving is prevalent here at bb’s and can be seen in the vast majority of early posts before people are indoctrinated into the bb’s culture. Even then the veterans display the cravings in many posts but rationalize it away as specific symptoms. Rationalization is another hallmark of addiction.

Addiction doesn’t discriminate. Humans do!

The term addiction fits for most of us. Breaking the symptoms of withdrawal down into minute details is again denial and rationalization best used only in support groups. The broad picture of the minute details supports an addiction definition and paradigm. Post withdrawal syndrome and the time it takes for the small subsection of us to recover is a whole other discussion.

Refusal by some members here to accept that many many people here are addicted despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise shuts down healthy and critical analysis of our issues. I understand why people don’t want to be associated with addiction. But the very nature of being here at bb’s involved in support for getting off benzos suggests we are associated with addiction. That’s how most of the real world understands this.

I agree that the definition af addiction carries with it many awful preconceptions that it shouldn’t, but that definition is embedded into the worldwide human culture. Overcoming those biases held by everyone who is culturally assimilated is a tall task. Overcoming those biases in our worlds cultures changes the conversation for those of us who are trying to recover to something else.

I apologize to anyone that is offended by this post. It’s not my intent to offend but out there in the real world most people I run into only know this as addiction. It’s how they understand the issue.

Addict shaming sucks where ever you find it.
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Patients pushback on MA benzo bill (read comments section)

Kooks complain reputation of being lunatics impossible to shake, decry lack of progress against Big Pharma

I am told cult members are trying to figure out how to be activists i.e. doctor-bashing nutcases and not appear insane doing so.

Good luck.

Benzo Buddies hits BALA (again)

Re: Massachusetts Residents: Revised Benzo Bill Reintroduced. Please read!
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 08:51:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Won’t this bill make doctors force us to do over rapid tapers? I still have a way to go on my taper according to what my body can tolerate. It might take me another year or more to finish my taper. I’m lucky that both of my doctors understand the importance of a slow taper. I can’t handle being tapered too rapidly, or having my doctor forced to make me go cold turkey. All of us on gradual tapers should fight this bill.
All your doing is playing God.
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