Suffering Benzo Buddies member regrets being brainwashed into stopping Valium

Re: What happened to Benzodiazepine Information Coalition?????
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2019, 10:56:08 pm »

[Buddie]

I think it is important to say that for some people it is not the right thing to get off of them

I should never have tried to stop diazepam which I was on the same low dose of for 20 years for muscle spasm from spinal injury and surgery.

WD is literally crushing my spine and I am now paradoxical to all meds.

I had no interdose WD or to,ere veg on the diazepam.

I know ppl in dystonia groups who only get relief from Clonazepam some of whom have been on it for 40 years without problems.

Delirious addict carried thermometer at all times after being brainwashed into believing benzo withdrawal sent his temp to 106°

Re: Do people here have difficulty regulating body temperature.
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2019, 12:57:15 am »

Jack37

Yes. I struggled to keep my body temp between 95-103 in the beginning. If I went out in the cold it would start to drop below 95 very quickly like in minutes. If I turned on the heat in the car my temp would start climbing. The sky was the limit. I carried a thermometer at all times for safety. My temperature would go to dangerous extremes quickly. I once had a 106 fever from driving in a hot car. I basically had to try to be in a 73 degree room at all times.
No problems with it currently. That symptom is gone.

Benzo Buddies targets famous psychologist Jordan Peterson for cult recruitment (N.B.: Scientology also routinely targets celebrities for cult recruitment)

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2019, 07:31:36 pm »

[Buddie]

maybe this would be a good time to reach out to her? I didn’t care right now about her meat diet. Her father could be goin through what we are going through. They have HUGE platforms. I suggest each of us send her a message wishing him health, sharing some of our story linking to Benzobuddies, , emphasizing the slow taper, and maybe linking to the Ashton manual. His politics and her beliefs are of no concern to me, just as I don’t “care” what any of yours are (in terms of my hope for your healing).

You could do this because it COULD help our cause, or else because it could help a fellow sufferer. Just a thought.

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2019, 09:31:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Here is the email I sent to Dr. Peterson’s daughter’s public email:

Mikhaila,

I’m so very sorry that you are dealing with your father’s klonopin issue, and so soon after your mother’s illness. I too am dependent on klonopin and I am working to get free. I took them as my doctor prescribed and was shocked to find I could not quit. Unfortunately most rehab centers believe in rapid taper, where you are quickly taken off the drug, often with other harmful drugs added to the mix.

This rarely works and often leads to long term damage.

The only safe way to heal from physical dependence (which is very different than addiction) is to slowly taper down. Addiction is a craving and can possibly be overcome by willpower, dependence is physiological and can happen with klonopin in as little as 4 weeks. It doesnÂ’t matter if it was used as prescribed or not. The dependency issue is the same.

Tapering, the slow reduction of the drug over months, is the only way to safely get through this without causing further (and perhaps permanent damage).

I would refer you to the best manual on benzo withdrawal, the Ashton Manual.

https://benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

The webpage is a little old fashioned but the information is critical.

Also, the best support group, with people who can supply tapering schedules, advice, info on supplements and drugs to avoid, etc is:

http://www.benzobuddies.org

Please reach out for help, quitting a benzo is not like quitting any other drug on earth.

I’m here if you have any questions.

Benzo Buddies member kachina can’t watch the Food Channel

TV
« on: August 03, 2019, 11:58:46 pm »

kachina

Can anyone else not stand tv I can’t even watch the food channel

Ativan 1mg 3xday 3 month’s ct. on trazadone 50mg gabapentin, Effexor, insulin short and long acting, thyroid med, blood pressure med, cholesterol med,

Television (and books) forbidden for Ashton cultists

Fear over Books and Television
« on: August 04, 2019, 11:16:50 pm »

[Buddie]

Does anyone become filled with anxiety when you try to watch television or read a book?

I use to love both, but now I can’t handle more than a few seconds of either. It makes it so so so hard to fill the day.

Re: Fear over Books and Television
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2019, 12:48:27 am »

[Buddie]

Yes.

Re: Fear over Books and Television
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2019, 12:53:29 am »

[Buddie]

YES. I actually stopped watching TV during WD. The violence, the negativity, just became way too much for me. I did not watch TV for several years because of this. I already had enough dark and negative thoughts in my mind. Did not need to add to that. Believe it or not I only resumed watching some TV a few months ago. And you know what? Seven years of NOT watching TV was truly a GOOD thing, a nice thing. I had to find other ways to pass the time.
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Re: Fear over Books and Television
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2019, 01:25:23 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 05, 2019, 12:53:29 am
YES. I actually stopped watching TV during WD. The violence, the negativity, just became way too much for me. I did not watch TV for several years because of this. I already had enough dark and negative thoughts in my mind. Did not need to add to that. Believe it or not I only resumed watching some TV a few months ago. And you know what? Seven years of NOT watching TV was truly a GOOD thing, a nice thing. I had to find other ways to pass the time.
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Same for me. Stopped watching TV completely. Cut back my online reading to only a couple local news and weather reports. Can’t handle the stress. I get too worked up. I am getting better, though. I was much worse a few years ago. So maybe I’ll be able to get back to where I was, though I’m not sure I want to. TV is all propaganda or pornography, and often both, mixed together into one tempting toxic brew. Who needs that?

Benzo Buddies members drink booze, snort ketamine to deal with failed benzo tapers

Alcohol setback
« on: July 20, 2019, 06:21:46 pm »

[Buddie]

Drank some beer about two weeks ago, and a few hours later I started to feel this weird electric feeling in my chest and my sleep got way worse. Over the next few days I started having all sorts of weird physical sensations. It felt like electricity was surging through my body, my skin was burning, and I had this weird electric butterflies in my stomach type feeling. Horrible anxiety set in, I started to feel like I was losing my mind, and my sleep got worse and worse. The anxiety has faded pretty much entirely and I’m having less of the weird bodily sensations, but my sleep SUCKS now. I’m getting 1-2 hours a night. I was doing so much better before I drank. I felt like I was finally turning a big corner. I was mostly getting 4-6 hours of sleep a night, sometimes a bit more, without taking anything to help me sleep.

I’m 13.5 months off, and am pretty concerned about this lack of sleep. It’s like I’m back to where I was at the start of my withdrawal with sleep.
Anybody else experienced something similar?

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2019, 06:39:11 pm »

[Buddie]

Oops I meant to post this in the post withdrawal recovery support section

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2019, 07:41:32 pm »

[Buddie]

I am sure one of the mods or admins will move it soon. How much beer did you drink?

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2019, 07:51:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Only one tall glass of beer. This is crazy.

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2019, 08:38:35 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on July 20, 2019, 06:39:11 pm
Oops I meant to post this in the post withdrawal recovery support section

I’ll move this over to the Post Withdrawal Support Board! :thumbsup:

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2019, 08:42:41 pm »

[Buddie]

Drinking alcoholic beverages tends to be a highly charged topic here. For some, perhaps many people, drinking can cause a return of withdrawal symptoms. Others may be able to tolerate it fine.

I’ll just share my personal experience. I am not a big drinker, just a glass of wine on occasion and a mixed drink even less often. However, I did not drink anything, not one sip, until I was completely healed. Even then, I didn’t have a drink right away, it took some time.

I’ve been recovered for many years now and do enjoy a glass of wine or a mixed drink at times with no ill effects. Everyone is different in this regard. Personally, I would not rush into beer again if you had a negative reaction.

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Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2019, 09:20:51 pm »

[Buddie]

I had one small glass of wine after many weeks of feeling better. I then had many weeks of feeling worse! And it happened pretty immediately. No more alcohol for me.

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2019, 01:09:30 am »

[Buddie]

Two beers set me back for a month. Still not where I was prior to the beers. Im alcohol free for the foreseeable future.

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2019, 01:14:23 am »

[Buddie]

I experimented with drinking wine a year off my taper. First 1/4 glass, then 1/2 glass, then a whole glass. 3 oz. No problems. So now I drink a glass of wine a couple of times a week.

But everyone is different. How alcohol will affect us is a crap shoot imo. I would definitely wait awhile before trying beer again. And then maybe a small glass.

Hope your sleep improves.

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Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2019, 10:37:53 am »

[Buddie]

4 months after finishing a long benzo taper, I slammed 5.5 beers within a two hour period or less. I had to pour out the rest of the 6th beer after realizing that I messed myself up. I was back in acute for several weeks but recovered after a solid month or so. It’s been 18 months since I touched alcohol. I’ve messed with small quantities from tinctures though without any ill effects. I suspect I can have a few drinks if I wanted to now but I just wrapped up tapering some other stuff. I’m thinking by the new year I can drink in moderation hopefully, assuming things work out for me. If I’m ever in a situation where I’m stuck with a bunch of people drinking and I can’t, snorting ketamine helps me get through it, and I don’t feel like I’m missing out so much. Alcohol should be consumed in moderation anyways. I can never go back to binge drinking anyways, which may lead back to benzos. I distinctly recall starting to take benzos to cope with hangovers in the beginning.

Re: Alcohol setback
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2019, 10:53:20 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on July 21, 2019, 10:37:53 am
4 months after finishing a long benzo taper, I slammed 5.5 beers within a two hour period or less. I had to pour out the rest of the 6th beer after realizing that I messed myself up. I was back in acute for several weeks but recovered after a solid month or so. It’s been 18 months since I touched alcohol. I’ve messed with small quantities from tinctures though without any ill effects. I suspect I can have a few drinks if I wanted to now but I just wrapped up tapering some other stuff. I’m thinking by the new year I can drink in moderation hopefully, assuming things work out for me. If I’m ever in a situation where I’m stuck with a bunch of people drinking and I can’t, snorting ketamine helps me get through it, and I don’t feel like I’m missing out so much. Alcohol should be consumed in moderation anyways. I can never go back to binge drinking anyways, which may lead back to benzos. I distinctly recall starting to take benzos to cope with hangovers in the beginning.

I think you should stop snorting Ketamine.

Benzo Buddies brainwashes members into believing benzo withdrawal causes baldness

What can help hair loss?
« on: December 02, 2018, 03:23:13 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi, I think we have established that these medications and tapering off them can cause hair loss. Is there anything you know of that can counteract this? I’m drinking tons of water, eating well and taking a hair vitamin. Also exercising and trying to get enough rest. And taking better care of my hair. But anything else you know of or specific supplements that can cut this off at the pass? Hairs are coming out like crazy and it’s getting more and more difficult to mask the thin areas. Relatively speaking my hair is probably the least of my worries but I would like to keep it. Thanks all!

Re: What can help hair loss?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2018, 03:30:59 pm »

[Buddie]

I spoke to a Baylissa. She said she went completely bald on top of her head and it grew back once WD was over.

Ashton tapers cause female baldness

Amazing real photo of hair loss due to benzo withdrawal (adults only please)

Moran works brainwashed kooks into frenzy over whether or not cooking with alcohol is safe

Cooking with alcohol?
« on: August 21, 2018, 11:11:14 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi, I'm 18 months off. Wanna know if its safe to cook with alcohol, I don't want a set back.

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 11:32:34 pm »

[Buddie]

If it’s heated yes…..

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 01:03:09 am »

[Buddie]

I cook with alchohol and have not had any problems. I don’t use a lot but if the recipe calls for it then I go ahead and use half of what it calls for. I don’t do it very often though. I haven’t noticed it making me worse.

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 03:00:11 am »

[Buddie]

I had soup with alcohol and it gave me a wave for several terrible months. It’s a myth that it cooks out. Google it… studies have been done!

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 05:09:05 am »

[Buddie]

I have not had any issues with food cooked in alcohol. I am 21 months off, but have had things cooked in alcohol a few time and never had an issue.

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2018, 01:20:43 am »

[Buddie]

I’m 18 months and I wouldn’t have a drop of alcohol if my life depended on it. It always pisses me off how crazy people are that they would be willing to risk pure hell over some damm alcohol! How is it worth it?

I would have healed over a year ago had I known the kind of hell alcohol puts us into with this illness.