Re: Benzo Class Action Lawsuit via Facebook Group « Reply #115 on: July 26, 2017, 06:20:40 pm »
I suppose that this went nowhere?
Mclean's Hospital Boston MA « on: July 24, 2017, 03:07:21 pm »
Doing some research I think that I have found a hospital outside of Boston Massachusetts that has some knowledge of benzo tapering and withdrawal. I have contacted the program’s director and I’m hoping to get a response sometime soon. I have been struggling with benzos for years and am worn out. I am hoping to find somebody that can really help me and not just a script doctor.
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Re: Mclean's Hospital Boston MA « Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 03:16:39 pm »
I understand how you feel, but please be very careful about hospital “detoxes.” I went through one several years ago, in a major Seattle hospital where the doctor was supposed to be a “benzo expert.” They cold turkeyed me the minute I walked in the door, monitored my blood pressure for a few days, then sent me home to endure hellish long-term withdrawal symptoms alone. I only saw the doctor once, for a few minutes, and it cost me many thousands of dollars. Many others here have similar experiences with hospital detoxes. “Detox” is designed for alcohol and street drugs, not benzos, which require a much longer recovery period.
For long term users, the best way to get off benzos is to taper slowly at home. It’s not always easy, but it generally leads to milder symptoms in the long run.
I’ve been informed that some of the kooks are filing their FDA complaints multiple times. I’ve taken the liberty to forward the links, of cult members bragging they’ve filed more than once, to the FDA. No need to thank me. 🙂
Re: Benzodiazepine information coalition: does this place exist? « Reply #42 on: June 23, 2017, 01:34:52 pm »
wanted to ask you your thoughts about the difference between the benzo’s “withdrawal” damage/injury iatrogenic illness, benzo discontinuation syndrome or whatever you want to call it and opiate addiction? because i know for me that opiates caused a craving where as i never craved benzos. you know what i mean/ there’s just a difference in these two drugs. i ponder this a lot.
My only experience with opiates has been the few times I have taken hydorcodone or percocet. I remember having this “wow” feeling the first time I took them so I can see how they could rope someone in.
It seems like benzo withdrawal (or whatever you want to call it) is a completely different animal. They don’t create physical cravings for most people but the severity and duration of the damage they cause to the body seems to be worse in general. I wouldn’t want to find myself addicted to opiates but if I could trade that for what I have experienced over the past 6.5 years from benzos I would do it in a heartbeat. At least if the bulk of your problem is staying off the drugs you might have a fighting chance.
Denying that benzos create physical craving in most people is simply addict shaming, […]. It’s intolerance and approaches bigotry. It shuts down conversation about benzos and is seen by many professionals and lay people as denial. Denial is a hallmark of addiction. This conversation is unpopular here and it’s not my fight. My fight is overcoming a lifetime of taking these pills and regaining my life.
Benzo craving is prevalent here at bb’s and can be seen in the vast majority of early posts before people are indoctrinated into the bb’s culture. Even then the veterans display the cravings in many posts but rationalize it away as specific symptoms. Rationalization is another hallmark of addiction.
Addiction doesn’t discriminate. Humans do!
The term addiction fits for most of us. Breaking the symptoms of withdrawal down into minute details is again denial and rationalization best used only in support groups. The broad picture of the minute details supports an addiction definition and paradigm. Post withdrawal syndrome and the time it takes for the small subsection of us to recover is a whole other discussion.
Refusal by some members here to accept that many many people here are addicted despite the overwhelming evidence otherwise shuts down healthy and critical analysis of our issues. I understand why people don’t want to be associated with addiction. But the very nature of being here at bb’s involved in support for getting off benzos suggests we are associated with addiction. That’s how most of the real world understands this.
I agree that the definition af addiction carries with it many awful preconceptions that it shouldn’t, but that definition is embedded into the worldwide human culture. Overcoming those biases held by everyone who is culturally assimilated is a tall task. Overcoming those biases in our worlds cultures changes the conversation for those of us who are trying to recover to something else.
I apologize to anyone that is offended by this post. It’s not my intent to offend but out there in the real world most people I run into only know this as addiction. It’s how they understand the issue.
Addict shaming sucks where ever you find it.
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This can't be normal losing hope! 7 month wave that is getting worse! Help « on: June 11, 2017, 10:01:09 pm »
Ok I’m really getting scared now and I don’t know what to do? Please don’t be made at me I know I keep talking about these symptoms but they really are continuing to get worse and today even more so than yesterday it hit yet another level of increased severity.
I woke up this morning to a new level of suffering that’s even worse than the last 3 weeks combined and I even tried to get up and shave and take a shower and go to church and that was a challenge in and of itself.
I somehow made it to church although I don’t even remember hardly any of it the pain physically and emotionally has been so severe but I made it. Sat in my car for I don’t know how long then tried to stand up and go into the church and could hardly walk the pain pressure burning numbness and physical symptoms in my head were so severe I couldn’t think or hardly stand up I was extremely disoriented and was kinda going in and out of reality it seemed almost I guess what it would feel like having a concussion and severe migraine at the same time. My nervous system was so bad and the anxiety so high I was literally shaking very nauseous light headed dizzy and couldn’t breath and the horrible intrusive and racing thoughts were on so loud I couldn’t think or hardly talk or keep my head up.
I made it into the church and had to set down immediately and could only lay my head down on my lap and couldn’t even focus on what the minister was saying. At the end of church my mom wanted me to come up for prayer and she had to help me up there I couldn’t stand up or walk on my own and after the church prayed for me I just feel on my moms shoulder and started crying and couldn’t move and thought I was gonna pass out.
We we went to eat after church and it was all I could do to get through the meal and had to come straight home and came straight in my room and feel out on the bed. I guess I feel asleep for a little bit but now I’m awake again and don’t wanna be cause this is crazy and the symptoms are so severe now I can’t hardly function at all and I feel like with the physical symptoms my brain and body are completely shutting down and the emotional symptoms are so severe I feel like I’m having a complete psychotic breakdown and losing all sense of reality.
I don’t understand how and why these symptoms continue to get more and more severe but I’m losing it and I can’t handle anymore this is crazy.
I haven’t changed anything with the Zoloft now in 3 months and I’ve heard about the 6 month wave that comes with benzo WD and many I’ve talked to have had a major increase or uptick in symptoms between 6-9 months before improving but this is out of control and it’s getting to the point I can’t handle it it’s so bad.
Its been over 3 almost 4 weeks since this wave hit and it’s. It getting any better just worse. It was so bad this week that I ended up in the ER had to call out one day of work and left early one day and if this continues like this I want survive and I for sure want be able to work.
This can’t be normal and I’m literally hanging on by a thread. In the last 3 weeks I’ve went from bad and coping the best I could to the worst symptoms I’ve ever experienced with this and not being functional at all and feeling like I’m losing my mind.
There is so much pressure pain burning and numbness in my head I can’t walk or talk or stand up for any length of time o feel physically sick and nauseous and like I’m gonna pass out can’t even hardly hold my head up. And the emotional symptoms are so severe the confusion, DP/DR, racing and intrusive thoughts that I really am don’t having a complete psychological breakdown losing it and don’t know how much more I can take?
The chilling effects of the “addictive” label
But the main point is that in the U.S. and Britain this drug class became demonized as addictive. In 1975 the US Department of Justice placed Librium and Valium on schedule IV of its list of controlled substances. Being listed as potential drugs of abuse had a chilling effect on prescribing. In New York State a further drop in use followed the 1989 imposition of restrictive triplicate prescription regulations which mandated state monitoring. A 1991 study reported in JAMA that these regulations led to a 44% decrease in benzodiazepine prescribing between 1987 and 1990 – but also an increase in the use of “less acceptable medications” (barbiturates and other traditional tranquilizers) – as well as the emerging, “more expensive” antidepressants buspirone and Prozac.
The anti-benzo backlash was particularly strong in the U.K. Prescribing there peaked in 1979, with 31 million prescriptions, then began a steady decline in response to government warnings. In 1988, the Committee on Safety of Medicines warned of withdrawal symptoms and dependence “following therapeutic doses given for SHORT periods of time” (its emphasis) and recommended limiting their use for a maximum of 2-4 weeks for “disabling” anxiety or insomnia. These restrictions remain in effect, forcing British doctors to “write fraudulent prescriptions” in order to adequately treat catatonia patients. (Healy, 2013)
Call to Action: MA Bill H. 3594 for Informed Benzodiazepine Use by Sonja Styblohttps://t.co/CE7S1Th8bR
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