Anti-psychiatry Benzo Buddies ghouls try to talk hallucinating addict out of seeking professional help

Considering Nursing Home care
« on: November 01, 2017, 11:34:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello everyone,

I have been through multiple withdrawals, almost on a monthly basis, over the past 5 years of being on klonopin. I made a huge mistake doing that, and I now know it. I was so frightened and terrified that I couldn’t even think straight. Even on the medication, I was in a lot of distress. I am now hardly able to take care of myself. I have lost almost all proprioception and can’t feel the muscles I’m tensing. This actually started possibly years ago. I am at a point where I have encountered near death experiences of being completely out of my body, much more than just dr/dp. I haven’t been able to let my body relax since my high anxiety took me into dr/dp 7 years ago (upon which I became frozen in my own body and couldn’t get help or info anywhere), 2 years before I was on meds. I am afraid to move or even think about most of my body and head. My sense of my body is constantly fluctuating. I have saucer sized pupils almost all day every day. When I look at them under light in the bathroom, they are constantly becoming huge then small. My mother has been taking care of me for the past 3 years, but she is getting older and I can’t put this on her anymore. I am only 31, but I am becoming severely disabled by this. If I even think about my body I feel pain. Over the years of repeated withdrawal, I have been mentally running away from what is happening to me more and more. The more I go on, the worse everything is getting. I am now having near-death compelete out of body experiences frequently. My nervous system is so wired that when I get up to do something, I am completely out of my body and can’t feel anything. When I sit down I start to feel all kinds of pain and horrible sensations. My proprioception is totally gone. My mouth feels sideways sometimes. Other times it starts to feel gigantic. And it is all I can really notice. Something is very wrong with me. I’ve done some kind of damage that I couldn’t feel because I’ve been outside of my body for years. I do have a feeling that I’m going to die, but it’s not a panicky one that I had 7 years ago when I entered dr/dp. This is an oddly calm acceptance.

So, I really think I need to be in a nursing home under medical care despite my age. I just contacted my doctor about it and I’m waiting for a reply. I know this seems crazy to everyone else in my life, but I know it’s what needs to be done in case something happens and to relieve the burden on my mother. I’m only getting worse and worse, and I have a feeling I’m on the verge of a serious occurrence that may threaten my life. I may even have to go back on klonopin just to stabilize. Just maybe there is a possibility I could do a supremely slow taper at some point in the distant future after I possibly correct the things that are physically wrong with me. To be honest, a lot of what I read here is what I experienced during my first or second year on the med. I feel like I unknowingly kindled myself dozens of times and found out all of this information I found way too late.

So, I guess my question is, what do you guys think? I’m losing my abilities to do anything even worse than before. I was hardly able to take care of myself the last few years on klonopin. I just sat in my chair hoping to distract myself at my computer. I had to leave grad school a year before I had my phd, and I pretty much became homebound then. I thought it was all just some mysterious thing that was destroying me and no one could figure it out. Now I know, but it’s too late. Do you think I will be able to do this? Do they have to have a definite diagnosis for me to be put in there? Please let me know anything you have to say about this.

Re: Considering Nursing Home care
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2017, 12:05:41 am »

[Buddie]

If you tell your doctor what you just wrote they won’t put you in a nursing home unfortunately, they’ll send you to a psych hospital. I know your feeling rough and guilty but you got to pull yourself together for your family. Vent all you want, it helps for sure but just know that you aren’t broken forever. This will end one day. You might have underlying issues as so I as well but this isn’t baseline if you weeent like this prior to the meds.

BALA vs. Benzo Buddies knife fight

new bill that can harm us - action needed
« on: March 19, 2017, 04:10:10 pm »

[Buddie]

One new bill has passed the house that will make it even harder than it is now to sue a pharmaceutical company for an injury. Another is coming behind it. It is important we contact the Senators and stop this. Write to your senators (Everyone has two) via this link about HR 985 or CALL THEM! Then write to or call your House Rep about HR 1215 They hate phone calls because they actually have to respond with more than a form letter. No democrat has voted for this bill, so focus on republicans. https://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/

H.R. 985, the 2017 Fairness in Class Action Litigation Act, aims to put more obstacles in the way of plaintiffs/victims who seek justice. This justice-reform bill is a gift to the pharmaceutical industry, and other big corporations that hurt citizens (like big banks, big agriculture, big chemical, big oil etc.) from Congress men and women who receive millions of dollars in donations from those industries. (PASSED HOUSE)

HR 1215 “Protecting Access to Care Act of 2017.” H.R. 1215 eliminates the rights of people harmed by medical professionals. It rigs the system, making it nearly impossible for injured victims to pursue lawsuits by imposing harsh time limits on lawsuits, denying the right to a trial by jury, limiting certain damages to $250,000 (even in states where such limits are unconstitutional), and protecting those who prescribe dangerous drugs and who hurt people with dangerous medical devices. (HAS NOT PASSED HOUSE YET – CONTACT YOUR HOUSE REP)

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2017, 10:19:02 pm »

[Buddie]

That’s fucked up.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 02:12:22 am »

[Buddie]

I read the bill.

I don’t see how it creates any hardship for folks that have been harmed by medicines of med providers.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 02:41:01 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 02:12:22 am
I read the bill.

I don’t see how it creates any hardship for folks that have been harmed by medicines of med providers.

I’m not exactly what bill you read. My spouse, who is an attorney and policy expert, read it and declared it is dangerous tort reform designed to greatly harm victims of medical malpractice. It essentially restricts the ability for victims to be compensated or to hold hospitals, incompetent doctors, nursing homes and pharmaceutical companies responsible for harming patients. All this bill does is line the pockets of big business and deprive the most needy access to fair compensation.

Call those republican lawmakers to help stop this onerous legislation.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 03:08:00 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 02:41:01 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 02:12:22 am
I read the bill.

I don’t see how it creates any hardship for folks that have been harmed by medicines of med providers.

I’m not exactly what bill you read. My spouse, who is an attorney and policy expert, read it and declared it is dangerous tort reform designed to greatly harm victims of medical malpractice. It essentially restricts the ability for victims to be compensated or to hold hospitals, incompetent doctors, nursing homes and pharmaceutical companies responsible for harming patients. All this bill does is line the pockets of big business and deprive the most needy access to fair compensation.

Call those republican lawmakers to help stop this onerous legislation.

This is the bill I read (as referenced in the original post)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1215/text

I see none of the “dangers” you mention, but I do see, for example, some of the following language:

“…nothing in this Act shall limit a claimant’s recovery of the full amount of the available economic damages,

“…the court shall supervise the arrangements for payment of damages to protect against conflicts of interest that may have the effect of reducing the amount of damages awarded that are actually paid to claimants. In particular, in any health care lawsuit in which the attorney for a party claims a financial stake in the outcome by virtue of a contingent fee, the court shall have the power to restrict the payment of a claimant’s damage recovery to such attorney, and to redirect such damages to the claimant based upon the interests of justice and principles of equity.

No provider of collateral source benefits shall recover any amount against the claimant or receive any lien or credit against the claimant’s recovery or be equitably or legally subrogated to the right of the claimant in a health care lawsuit involving injury or wrongful death.”

Sounds to me that it protects harmed individuals from predatory attorneys.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 am »

[Buddie]

[…],

You can quote whatever you’d like, doesn’t make it true. This is extreme tort reform.

We should all be concerned about this bill and I’ve cut and pasted and article from Law Professors and Federal Courts Blog. I’d like to add, the lawmaker who introduced this bill is none other than Representative Steve King of Iowa. If you don’t know who Steve King is, google his name and “white supremacy.”

Republicans Introduce Sweeping Federalization of Tort Law, Limiting Recovery to Victims
By Patricia W. Moore Share
The Republicans in Congress are intent on expropriating ordinary citizens’ right to sue wrongdoers and allowing corporations and other defendants to violate the law without consequence.

Not content to protect corporations from accountability by hobbling class actions and intimidating plaintiffs’ lawyers with mandatory Rule 11 sanctions, Republicans are going for the full monty: federalized so-called “tort reform” (or what I call “tort elimination”).

Without a hearing, H.R. 1215 (Download HR1215) goes to straight to markup in the House Judiciary Committee this Tuesday. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Steve King (R-IA 4th Dist.).

H.R. 1215 has the Orwellian name of “Protecting Access to Care Act of 2017” (because all Republican-sponsored bills about the civil justice system are named just the opposite of what they would actually do to ordinary citizens). The name of this bill should be “Protecting Doctors and Hospitals from Liability for Wrongdoing and Protecting Insurance Companies from Having to Pay Legitimate Claims.”

Although Republicans supposedly care about “states’ rights,” this bill would eliminate (by preempting) vast swaths of state tort law. Among the many draconian provisions of the bill:

It would impose a uniform 3-year statute of limitations on “health care lawsuits.”* States would be free to have a shorter one, but not a longer one.
It would impose a uniform $250,000 limit on noneconomic damages.
The bill would not limit economic damages, but it would allow states to limit economic damages, noneconomic damages, and the total amount of damages.
Naturally, “the jury shall not be informed about the maximum award for noneconomic damages.” Because then they might at last understand what “tort reform” means.
The bill would eliminate joint-and-several liability. This could deprive an innocent injured person of full compensation, while shielding a wrongdoing defendant from paying for an injury he helped to cause.
“Any party” would be allowed to introduce evidence of collateral source benefits.
An award of future damages over $50,000 would be required, at the request of “any party,” to be paid in periodic payments.
The bill would completely release health care providers (as defined) from any liability in a products liability action for prescribing a product approved by the FDA.
Finally, no Republican-sponsored civil justice bill would be complete without denigrating plaintiffs’ attorneys and making it even more uneconomical for plaintiffs’ attorneys to represent clients. This bill goes so far as to call the payment to attorneys of an agreed-upon fee a “conflict of interest.” The bill would give the court the power to restrict a contingent fee. And “in no event shall” the contingent fee exceed 40% of the first $50,000 recovered, 33-1/3% of the next $50,000, 25% of the next $500,000, and 15% of any amount in excess of $600,000.

So now the federal government would be dictating to the states what attorneys’ fees they could allow. Those limits would apply even in settlement, mediation, or arbitration.

Really, guys? This bill isn’t even getting a hearing? Maybe to talk about its practical elimination of citizens’ ability to sue or the fact that the bill is a gift to the insurance industry? Maybe to talk about the experience that many states, swept up in “tort reform” over the last several decades, have had with similar provisions (many of which have been held unconstitutional)? How about the fact that the bill slavishly follows the positions of the American Tort Reform Association and the shadowy American Legislative Exchange Council?

H.R. 1215 joins five other bills introduced in the past few weeks that tilt the table in favor of corporate defendants in litigation. Is there any item on the corporate defense wish list that we haven’t seen introduced in Congress yet?

It is possible, though, that this bill could have one positive effect. It may induce doctors, hospitals, and insurance companies who currently refuse to participate in federal programs to do so, based upon the limited liability the bill would ensure.

*Definition: “The term ‘health care lawsuit’ means any health care liability claim concerning the provision of goods or services for which coverage was provided in whole or in part via a Federal program, subsidy or tax benefit, or any health care liability action concerning the provision of goods or services for which coverage was provided in whole or in part via a Federal program, subsidy or tax benefit, brought in a State or Federal court or pursuant to an alternative dispute resolution system, against a health care provider regardless of the theory of liability on which the claim is based . . .” This would presumably include Medicare, Medicaid, and the Affordable Care Act.

February 26, 2017 in Current Affairs, In the News, State Courts | Permalink | Comments (2)

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 03:55:53 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 am
[…],

You can quote whatever you’d like, doesn’t make it true. This is extreme tort reform.

But what I’m quoting is the actual language contained HB 1215.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 04:01:03 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 03:55:53 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 am
[…],

You can quote whatever you’d like, doesn’t make it true. This is extreme tort reform.

But what I’m quoting is the actual language contained HB 1215.

So what! I posted a legal analysis by someone who cares about justice. ?

Zopiclone causes cancer? Hardly.

Pretty sure I've got cancer...
« on: July 04, 2016, 10:53:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Pretty sure if I do it is from Zopiclone.

I’ve had rashes all over my body for years, along with a swollen gland in my neck (lmyth node) for about 3 years (did you go to a doctor? or, were you brainwashed, by Benzo Buddies, not to? – editor)

Getting tested for Cutaneous T-cell lymphoma Having a biopsy on my glands and skin this week

Had blood tests today, should get the results from that in a few days

DESCENT INTO MADNESS

Brainwashed member relies on anti-psychiatry cult for advice on endoscopy? What?

PLEASE READ..Need some answers for an endoscopy i am needing done..thanks
« on: April 27, 2016, 10:58:12 pm »

[Buddie]

PLEASE READ

I went and had the barium swallow test done today..there is a mass there..i only have 1/4 of my esophagus open..they cant say what it is..but its not a s/x or w/d..and i told them i saw the mass 6 weeks ago and the radiologist assured me that i was fine and to go eat..the radiologist today compared the two and its in the same place and not any bigger…thats why i can only swallow liquids cause nothing else will pass..he wouldnt even do the pill swallow cause he was afraid it would get stuck..

now my dilemma i have never been so scared and terrified in my life..and the gi doc is clueless when it comes to even taking into your med background..i need everyone to help me cause they are wanting to do a endoscopy asap..at least by friday..

what meds do i have to watch out for and cant do..and how dangerous is this procedure..and how many of you have had it done..i have never had anything done since i had my tonsils took out when i was 6..and i am afraid i will have a heart attack or stroke while they are doing it..

joe says i dont have much choice on this one but i do want as much help and input from people who have been there that i can get..

also i cant lay flat..dont want that floating crazy feeling from them giving me something to relax..do i have to have that??

should i updose for this procedure?

I dont know how i am going to get through this..my mother in law caught mrsa from a scope and we lost her..

i will be around all evening and in the morning looking for help from my family here..

thanks for any advice

deep

Needs helper to drive car six months off happy pills?

To afraid to go outside! 6 months out...you look just fine!! NOT
« on: March 28, 2016, 08:25:25 pm »

[Buddie]

Well, 6 months out, nobody believes that I am in horrible withdrawal, and have transisitioned from ‘cant go outside’ to ‘well maybe I can go outside…’ hey you look fine!… WTF is wrong with you? You are an AHOLE!! You are faking it!!

What do you all think? Have you had these problems? and nobody believes you, hey, you look to normal to be sick – whats wrong with you? You’re not sick…

I have been too dizzy to drive, yet I started driving again after 5 months of not driving a month ago – I saw my 90 year old neighbor get into his car, start it up and drive away, I KNOW he cannot see, I KNOW he cannot hear, yet he got in his car and drove?! Im like WTF, If this guy can drive, well I can… so the next day I got into my car and drove – with a helper, and I was successful -!!!

Comments please!!

Cult ghouls devote entire Benzo Buddies thread to talking someone out of going to hospital

Thinking of going to detox
« on: February 15, 2016, 06:31:48 am »
[Buddie]
Has anyone done this? any and all comments are welcome.

Lots of people here have tried this, with disastrous results in most cases. I wouldn’t trust this place at all, frankly, because benzo withdrawal/healing (long and slow) and alcohol/hard drug withdrawal/healing (faster and more direct) are nothing alike, and almost all “detox” places are designed for the latter, not the former- no matter what their advertising says. These are money making businesses.

I had a dreadful experience which I wouldn’t recommend to anyone.
  • You are immediately c/t’d off benzos. There is no taper. It’s a cold turkey.
  • You stay in the hospital or facility several days to a few weeks – far less time than is required for healing after a benzo c/t.
  • You are sent home with severe, often unbearable symptoms. In my case, the symptoms were so awful they led to an eventual reinstatement and kindling.
  • There is no follow-up. And for this, you pay many thousands of dollars.
A cold turkey detox can be horrific. I have done three. between them I have had 17 rides in ambulances, 16 in patient psychiatric stays, 1 ride in life flight, dozens of trips to the ER, days in the ICU,

two police rides shackled with leather belts.

I have over 3/4 of a million in doctor bills. Prior to my first detox I had never been to the ER. I had never been in the hospital. I had never had a psychiatric stay, and I had never been in a police car. Stopping suddenly is serious business.

Most of the time a benzo detox is junk.

The place I went to in Houston is called Memorial Hermann PaRC. They cold turkey detoxed me off of Klonopin and it was brutal–extreme anxiety, insomnia, hallucinations, balance issues, lots of physical symptoms and more. They were not benzo savy at all. I was given a different drug cocktail but everyone there attended the same AA based classes everyday. They thought I was being whiny because I felt so bad and wasn’t doing better after a week like all the alcohol patients were. I would never recommend it for benzo withdrawal. They kicked me out after five weeks because my insurance stopped paying. They even cleared me to go back to work immediately. It was extremely rough and only by the grace of God was I able to go back to work and fake my way through each day. Nine months later I’m still having lots of issues with anxiety, depression, cog fog, memory loss, etc…

Don’t do it if you can avoid it!