Doctor-bashers organize attack on woman who asks them to stop doctor-bashing

“There’s no such thing as a ‘low dose’ especially when you’ve been on it SO LONG! I see you say for patients to educate themselves but unfortunately you are not educated on the long-term effects of what has happened to your body by being on them for 30 years. If your doctor cuts you off, you will find out really quick how sick your body really is. Come join the 20,000 of us that have had so much damage from these drugs!” – angelaandgijoe1

Angela obtained her medical degree from L. Ron Hubbard University. 😉

“Benzobuddies don’t have 20,000.00 at point, but they have had about 20,000.00 since they started a little over 10 years ago. Right now I think they have about 1500. That includes actually members and those that ‘peep’ in through the curtains.” – Shelly Ann

Benzo Buddies has a few hundred – tops – members that participate (most make between 1-5 posts and leave). They do not have 20,000, or even 1500, active members. Colin, and anyone that believes his hysterically padded membership rolls, is delusional.

“stop the doctor bashing on benzo’s … educate yourself” (video since removed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbzzZb4gc_I

Defending science-based medicine: 44 doctor-bashing arguments …and their rebuttals

“Supporters of alternative medicine and purveyors of quack remedies love to criticize conventional medicine and science. They keep repeating the same tired arguments that are easily rebutted. This handy guide will help skeptics answer common criticisms from doctor-bashers.”
http://www.csicop.org/si/show/defending_science-based_medicine_44_doctor-bashing_arguments_and_rebuttals

Massachusetts Medical Society hits back at kooks, demands anti-patient benzo bill be rejected

MMS Testimony in Opposition to House 4062, An Act Relative to Benzopiazapines and Non-Benzodiazepine Hypnotics

Before the Joint Committee on Mental Health and Substance Abuse

The Massachusetts Medical Society wishes to be recorded in opposition to House 4062, “An Act relative to benzodiazepines and non-benzodiazepine hypnotics.”

The Medical Society strongly supports the careful prescribing of benzodiazepines given concerns over addiction, over polypharmacy abuse with opioids, and given the clinical acuity of the detoxification process from benzodiazepines. Many of the continuing medical education courses that we provide free to all prescribers include section on improving benzodiazepine prescribing. The MMS supports thoughtful safeguards to promote best practices and to eradicate any fraudulent prescribing of these and other drugs. However, the Medical Society also believes that benzodiazepines are essential drugs for the wellbeing of many patients, including those in recovery from alcoholism. At present, the proper tools exist to ensure proper prescribing, and we ultimately feel that House 4062 will have a detrimental impact on care provided to patients.

There are many ways that the standard of care in the practice of medicine is enforced in the Commonwealth. The Board of Registration in Medicine has a team of attorneys that continuously work to hold accountable those physicians who improperly prescribe. The Department of Public Health has a clinical advisory group that mines Prescription Monitoring Program Data to highlight cases for further review by licensing boards. The Office of the Attorney General, the tort system, and law enforcement all also have roles in maintaining best prescribing practices. Additionally, benzodiazepines are the only class of drugs, along with opioids, that are part of the explicit regulatory requirement that prescribers check the PMP before issuance of such a prescription to a patient for the first time. The MMS supports this current requirement.

Many of the specific provisions in this bill are problematic and will not result in the intended effect. The definition of non-benzodiazepine hypnotics is imprecise and has sufficient ambiguity to disallow any anticipation of its application. While the Medical Society appreciates the complexity of the medical discontinuation of benzodiazepines, protocols by the Department of Public Health are not the answer. The Department of Public Health does not have the clinical expertise as an entity such as the Board of Registration of Medicine, and the again the aforementioned existing safeguards are more than sufficient to promote best prescribing practices. A protocol-by-protocol approach to issues of public health concern is neither sustainable nor consistent with the long history of the provision of good medicine in Massachusetts.

The “brightly colored” paper provision is also problematic. In a time when we’re trying to destigmatize mental health issues and to promote recovery of diseases such as alcoholism, requiring recipients of benzodiazepines to have to present to the pharmacy with a scarlet letter would be antithetical to the improvements in mental health and substance abuse care over the past many years. It does not seem to provide a concrete solution to any issue and it’s yet another burden to prescribers.

Lastly, the final section requiring written informed consent is also problematic. Physicians make decisions on a daily basis about how best to provide informed consent. Many factors dictate how best to communicate medical information to a particular patient- what level of scientific detail should they provide on the risk and benefits, what types of alternatives are relevant to this particular case, and in what medium can the information best be conveyed? Written form is most effective in some instances and physicians will elect to utilize it. In others, a verbal discussion is more appropriate because of various factors (i.e., multiple informed consent forms signed or discussions had over the course of refills, literacy issues, or prioritization of time during a given clinical encounter.)

The Medical Society supports the thoughtful prescribing of these complex medications. The Medical Society supports the intent to ensure that improper prescribers are held accountable and that patients are properly informed of the risks, benefits, and alternatives to benzodiazepines. But the Medical Society firmly opposes this bill, and believes that the specific policy provisions put forward in House 4062 will have a detrimental impact on the provision of care in the Commonwealth. The Medical Society asks you to reject this bill.

http://www.massmed.org/Advocacy/MMS-Testimony/MMS-Testimony-in-Opposition-to-House-4062,-An-Act-Relative-to-Benzopiazapines-and-Non-Benzodiazepine-Hypnotics/#.VwWEjxMrJBx

Drug-seeking addict seeks cult’s help in finding new doc to supply pills

WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOCTOR?
« on: February 25, 2016, 08:12:04 pm »

katz09899

Anybody else struggling to get their doctor to believe them about their protracted benzo withdrawal? When I see my dr. he asks me how I’m doing but then gets irate when I tell him the truth. He insists that benzo withdrawals only last 7-14 days ( it’s been 5 months for me so far). He’s accused me of pill seeking even though I’ve never asked for medications, and has even told me “you’re better than this”. I’m so frustrated. How do you go about finding a Dr. with experience treating benzo withdrawal? I’m not looking for meds, just someone who acknowledges that I feel the way I feel.

Re: WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOCTOR?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 08:20:14 pm »

[Buddie]

WOW. Just wow. What’s wrong with your doctor? Arrogance? Ignorance? Lack of empathy for his suffering patients? I could go on. Is this the same doctor who gave you the benzos to start with and got you into this mess? Wasn’t HE better than that? I’m sorry you are dealing with such a doctor Katz. When I hear about doctors treating those of us struggling with benzo withdrawal in such an ignorant and callous manner, it makes my blood boil. IMO its time to find another doctor.


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Re: WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOCTOR?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 08:27:24 pm »

katz09899

Yes, he’s the same Dr. that prescribed them to me 8 years ago.

Re: WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOCTOR?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 08:28:48 pm »

[Buddie]

HE IS AN IDIOT ! That is what is wrong with him !! You are 5 trillion times better than him. Don’t pay any attention. My dr. pretty much said same thing to me. Thank God we know better now. I would never go to him again.

Re: WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOCTOR?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2016, 08:29:10 pm »

[Buddie]

‘Withdrawal’ means removal of the drug, so he’s seeing this as having been accomplished already. You’re left with the process of recovering from the temporary damage the benzo has done…the healing or recovery process, which is very symptomatic for those of us who find ourselves here searching for answers. Docs get caught up in semantics and lack of information on the length of time it takes for the GABA receptors to heal. And that’s how they let us down as patients, by not validating this.

Benzo-wise doctors are few and far between, most of us must go this on our own. It’s a shame that most of our doctors aren’t better educated about what benzodiazepines can do over time.

Re: WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY DOCTOR?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2016, 09:37:57 pm »

katz09899

I had read somewhere that it was called “PAWS”, for Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome. Which most if not all Drs. who prescribe these meds have no real knowledge of the harm these meds cause. I too searched for some Dr. to help me and only got frustration from the ones I turned to. I tried Drs. and drug clinics and didn’t find much support. I just wanted someone to “listen” and be compassionate and encouraging and the only place that I have found the support I needed was here at BB. Sharing back and forth really helps, keep doin it. Keep reaching out. Thanks to everyone who has helped me.

Scientology front group CCHR cult raiding dregs of society for ravaged drug addicts to brainwash and abuse

Benzo Buddies members threaten to murder Big Pharma exec

Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« on: January 23, 2016, 06:13:51 pm »

[Buddie]

I can’t believe it…..at 10.30 nearly a fight in US. 

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2016, 06:30:04 pm »

[Buddie]

Best video ever…..[…] got it from ITV London.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2016, 06:41:10 pm »

[Buddie]

Effing bastards….I can’t get over it, so angry

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2016, 07:05:33 pm »

[Buddie]

I am very angry too. I am so pleased that ITV has unearthed it from their archives.

I wish we could have a really good up-to-date documentary on this subject.

Have sent the video to various politicians, journalists etc in Scotland.

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Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2016, 07:11:22 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on January 23, 2016, 07:05:33 pm
I am very angry too. I am so pleased that ITV has unearthed it from their archives.

I wish we could have a really good up-to-date documentary on this subject.

Have sent the video to various politicians, journalists etc in Scotland.

[…] 

Good find […]…..I’m still in shock about the golf course scene….
unbelievable, they should have called the cops.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2016, 07:25:11 pm »

[Buddie]

UNBELIEVABLE!! This being uncovered in 1988………..freaking 28 yrs ago!! What a pompous arrogant prick that chairman of Wyeth was. Typical 

This just solidifies my suspicions and hatred of Ativan. Watching the vid brought back VERY vivid reminders of the horrible acute stage my wife went through after being directly crossed over to V from Ativan………….pure and absolute HELL!!!!

Thank you […] for this

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 07:34:40 pm »

[Buddie]

Bunch of gangstas like I’ve always said…..at the golf course ?
Bagger off whilst you still have a chance…..thats underworld slang.

Give me a fucking break please…..I can’t believe it.         

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2016, 07:57:17 pm »

[Buddie]

Unbelievable… infiuriating … depressing… this was made in 1988, so it was already known how dangerous and addictive Ativan was then, and here we are in 2016 and doctors are still prescribing it and people are still getting addicted to it. Big pharma wins, and we all lose.

Watching this I wanted to be on that golf course – I’d shove that a**hole executive’s golf club up his f***ing a**.

Sorry about the language, but that scene made me so angry..

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2016, 08:02:32 pm »

[Buddie]

I think we would all like to do that but I expect he’s dead now!!!!

  

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2016, 08:05:49 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on January 23, 2016, 07:57:17 pm
Unbelievable… infiuriating … depressing… this was made in 1988, so it was already known how dangerous and addictive Ativan was then, and here we are in 2016 and doctors are still prescribing it and people are still getting addicted to it. Big pharma wins, and we all lose. Watching this I wanted to be on that golf course – I’d shove that a**hole executive’s golf club up his f***ing a**. Sorry about the language, but that scene made me so angry…

Yep , overhere they are prescribing Ativan like smarties….its criminal,
what a corrupted system….its so so crazy thats why nobody believes it….

Wish I was on that golf course with […]….no on second thoughts
rather with Mr. Glock….. 

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2016, 08:48:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Makes me wanna puke……….

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2016, 10:54:51 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on January 23, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Quote from: [Buddie] on January 23, 2016, 07:05:33 pm
I am very angry too. I am so pleased that ITV has unearthed it from their archives.

I wish we could have a really good up-to-date documentary on this subject.

Have sent the video to various politicians, journalists etc in Scotland.

[…] 

Good find […]…..I’m still in shock about the golf course scene….
unbelievable, they should have called the cops.

That was an amazing video. Thank you so much for posting. As someone who did a cold turkey withdrawal from a large dose of Ativan this was really troubling, and boy that golf course scene…unbelievable to say the least. Well worth watching.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2016, 04:14:29 am »

[Buddie]

28 YEARS LATER AND NO CHANGE WHATSOEVER – EVEN MORE PRESCRIPTIONS FOR ATIVAN ISSUED.

There is no justice when it comes to these very harmful drugs. Really sad, such a travesty.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2016, 05:06:28 am »

[Buddie]

Unbelievable…but then again, it is all about money isn’t it.

It was far more important at the time, that he finish his golf game, then get right quick to cocktail hour in his mansion, than to honestly address the issues of hurting people, taking his toxic drug!

There really are no words for how sick it all is.  A few months back, there was no way I could have even watched this, because I was Ava. I cried just watching this old vid, because I knew that pain, I knew that anxiety and fear that made you feel you would lose your mind at any moment. It’s a flat out miracle that I got off that shit and survived that CT, just like many of you have and your all amazing!
That wd was inhumane and I thank God everyday for pulling me thru that terror. I am ashamed that mankind is willing to put money above human lives…its horrific.

Unbelievable to me that I am a year free now. Its like the first year is survival and realizing as you come out of it more and more, you survived, didn’t die and your brain and body are going to be ok once again. The second year, then becomes rebuilding your life. I’m still coping with, what THE HELL was that I just endured for the last year!

I had the opportunity today to share my story with some very close business associates and they all were either crying, or in total shock over such things going on. I feel somehow, someway, I will do what I can and when I can, to spread the news of this poison.

Ativan=Hell

Thank you or sharing this video, it validated me and also made me very angry and wanting to continue making a difference somehow with the knowledge I now have after this experience. My life will surely never be the same.


magic

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2016, 05:31:40 pm »

[Buddie]

I feel that you’re right, […]. There’s more and more talk about putting limits on sugary foods, more interest in the environment and climate change, more avenues for change in terms of health and well-being overall. The fact that just recently the NFL has finally, finally gotten a clue about concussions is good news (and the NFL has been in existence since the 1920s!). No more cigarette ads on TV. One day soon I hope to see drug commercials banned as well.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2016, 06:05:44 pm »

[Buddie]

They cold turkeys her for two weeks n then sent her home to suffer there. Disgusting

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2016, 06:47:08 pm »

[Buddie]

I am in tears…
I cannot believe this. Absolutely criminal and inhumane.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2016, 12:40:05 am »

[Buddie]

I feel so horrible for this lady. I’ve never taken Ativan and so glad I haven’t. I know all benzos are terrible but I’ve always thought Ativan was the worst. One can become addicted to it faster than other benzos.

Put that company’s president out of his misery.

Some people are born w/o a conscious. He is one of them. And that golf course scene? 
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Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2016, 01:32:42 am »

[Buddie]

I wonder if she ever managed to withdraw. Don’t suppose we will ever know now.

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Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2016, 05:43:44 am »

[Buddie]

Remember this video was made in 1988 before anyone knew how to properly get off benzos. Dr Ashton’s groundbreaking work came later. Watching this video made me appreciate the incredible value of Ashton’s brilliant and wonderful work. We now know about tapering. In 1988 they had no clue.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2016, 05:54:45 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on January 25, 2016, 05:43:44 am
Remember this video was made in 1988 before anyone knew how to properly get off benzos. Dr Ashton’s groundbreaking work came later. Watching this video made me appreciate the incredible value of Ashton’s brilliant and wonderful work. We now know about tapering. In 1988 they had no clue.

Unbelievable isn’t it ? Now I realize what an effort it must have been for
Ashton to complete her manual, bless the old Lady.

Re: Watch this video about Ativan....unbelievable !
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2016, 02:58:58 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on January 25, 2016, 01:32:42 am
I wonder if she ever managed to withdraw. Don’t suppose we will ever know now.

[…]  

Yes, I wondered this as well. Is she still alive? Did she successfully get off this crap?
Who is she, and her age. I’ll assume she would be in her 80’s now if still alive. Poor woman

Defending science-based medicine: 44 doctor-bashing arguments (and their rebuttals)

Supporters of alternative medicine and purveyors of quack remedies love to criticize conventional medicine and science. They keep repeating the same tired arguments that are easily rebutted. This handy guide will help skeptics answer common criticisms from doctor-bashers.

Read more: http://www.csicop.org/si/show/defending_science-based_medicine_44_doctor-bashing_arguments_and_rebuttals

Doctor prevails in Tokyo benzo lawsuit, case ends in flames

“Ultimately, the Tokyo High Court ruled out my case for iatrogenic (doctor induced) benzodiazepine drug dependency and associated damages saying that I could not have had tolerance because the dosages remained the same without any efforts to seek increases, and because I did not have tolerance it could not have been possible for me to have had a withdrawal reaction either. For this reason they ruled out both tolerance and withdrawal.”

Read more: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/community/2012/03/13/issues/new-zealander-loses-legal-fight-over-crippling-med-addiction/