Anti-doctor maniacs at Benzo Buddies terrify member into believing her doctor is wrong

Wine
« on: March 17, 2019, 11:41:27 pm »

[Buddie]

I am not a drinker generally but I used to like a glass of wine years ago. Lately I have thought I would like a taste of wine. Today it was beautiful out and we went to an outdoor cafe. I had a small glass of riesling. I feel like my withdrawal symptoms settled down a bit. Much more relaxed. has anybody experienced this sense of calm with a bit of wine?

Re: Wine
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2019, 05:02:25 am »

[Buddie]

Ever heard of the term….”liquid benzo”?

Re: Wine
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2019, 11:57:37 am »

[Buddie]

No I haven’t. The clinical director of my residential program said a few sips of red wine are healthy. I have only had a few sips and would never have more. I like a few tastes but nothing more.

Re: Wine
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2019, 01:58:52 pm »

[Buddie]

Please be really careful when it comes to alcohol. I keep reading on this forum that it can cause major setbacks. You may be OK with small amounts, but in my opinion it’s not worth the risk. Best to avoid alcohol, caffeine and sugar. I personally may not ever drink again! Happy healing to you …

Re: Wine
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2019, 06:27:56 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m at the end of my taper, five more days to jump. I had a small glass of prosseco last Saturday and it gave me tachycardia, I had to take a propranolol, and have felt lousy the last two days.

Re: Wine
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2019, 10:23:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 18, 2019, 11:57:37 am
No I haven’t. The clinical director of my residential program said a few sips of red wine are healthy. I have only had a few sips and would never have more. I like a few tastes but nothing more.

Well unfortunatelyT. Yes, red wine has some health benefits for those that have not had their CNS fried by psych drugs. Alcohol affects the Gabba receptors similiar to benzodiazepines and it is strongly advised to avoid alcohol until you are well and truly healed. Some say 6 mths and some say 2 years after you have completely healed, not just finished taper but completely healed.

So this is probably why you felt relaxed, like the effects of swallowing a benzo?

Re: Wine
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2019, 10:27:54 am »

[Buddie]

[…],
It sure looks that way for me.
When I was in the middle of my taper a glass of prosseco was fine, but now with the tachycardia I can’t touch alcohol. I want to take 10 milligrams of propranolol only when it is absolutely necessary, I’ve only taken it this once. All this symptoms are very tiresome.
Thanks.

Benzo Buddies gives free reign to doctor-bashers

Overcoming fear/mistrust of Doctors.
« on: February 19, 2019, 10:28:13 pm »

[Buddie]

I know from all posts I’ve read that I’m very far from alone in this and do have that question. (I’m not even sure whether or not moderators will take down this thread or let it be, since I do find it a little odd that I haven’t already come across a thread like this. I do take great care composing a thread/posts that they won’t possibly distress or offend anyone.) I’m concerned some symptoms I’m having are serious, but I have these mistrust and fear issues. My experiences with doctors haven’t been highly favorable to begin with, never mind this travesty. My doctor had prescribed for over a decade and when his group practice was taken over by a larger one informed me, on phone, that the refill he was giving was the last – which, rapid detox could’ve killed me. I’d only known about tapers b/c I’d had a gut feeling that the depression I’d been feeling for 2 years @ that time was due to the ativan, so I’d already begun my research. He’d also overprescribed, which I hadn’t taken full amount, so I’ve had a reserve to do my dry cuts…

I’ve been experiencing many w/d sxs; won’t go into all the details here; anyone wanting more back-story can click on my username and look through my posts history. Since August ’18 have experienced steady weight gain (especially in truck of body) and pain in right ankle. I don’t remember twisting it; but it’s possible I did. Since end of December, everything’s much worse, & which I’ve attributed to w/d with decreasing amounts being in my system & all the poisons having to be expunged. I can’t, though, ignore how much worse the right ankle pain is (the only time I’m not in pain is when asleep, blessed relief/hard to come by), along w/both calves swelling now & the calf skin being tight & shiny. Now, I’m thinking the additional weight gain may all be water-retention (esp. as I’ve been slim whole life & so were parents).

My concern is that this may be heart-related, as my blood pressure had been borderline high & it may have been the ativan keeping it even at that level & not higher. During this same time period, a loved one had awful experiences of her closest loved ones & their ultimate demises; one of whom had much swelling w/skin weeping & an awful 2-3 months before he was finally granted the ultimate respite from a higher power, but not before doctors/hospitals tortured him further. I know how much she detests and reviles doctors now, too, from those experiences, but that she does keep her own doctor appointments. Hearing those experiences, combined with my own already existing ones during this same time period, I’m more mistrustful and fearful of the medical community than ever. I do have a call out to her (leaving out the exact specifics, b/c even w/her, I’m afraid she’ll just advise going to dr. or hospital) asking how she gets over any of her own feelings in order to visit a doctor at all. She’s actively grieving (& why I’d hated to pose this question to her at all, but did it as obliquely as possible, b/c I know she’ll be concerned about me & she’s been though enough) – so, I don’t know if/when I’ll hear from her…

Any helpful tips appreciated. (on getting over the fear/mistrust – please, not just advising “go to” dr./hospital- thank you)
« Last Edit: February 19, 2019, 11:16:41 pm by [Buddie]

Doctor-hating Benzo Buddies member forces friend fighting cancer to not take life-saving medication

Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« on: June 13, 2018, 02:30:12 pm »

[Buddie]

Got a call from a good friend. He’s been fighting cancer for sometime now and is taking 8 different meds a day. The whole process is really starting to make him feel bad. Boy when his doctor heard that he wasted no time scratching out a double script for kolonapin and Zoloft. As if the poor guy ain’t got enough problems already to deal with. He called me and asked what poisons messed me all up and when I told him he fired both meds in the garbage. He never took any thank god. It makes me so angry that these doctors push this crap without a second thought. All he said is that he felt bad about his health situation and that statement earn him 2 poisons that would of destroyed him.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2018, 02:32:14 pm »

[Buddie]

yup. 90% of the medical system is a money making scam. there is some limited good stuff, if you break a bone and those type of things. but staying away from chemicals is the key to good health.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2018, 03:28:45 pm »

[Buddie]

my hat is off to you for saving your friend from futher agony. these doctors these days shell this poison out like candy. they should be held accountable for this. keep up the good work!

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 03:55:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Good job. I had a friend recently also turn down ADs because she thought of me and my suffering, and then said, “No.”.

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 03:57:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I think they use it as a gateway drug to get you on other meds $$$$$$$$ I will keep informing as many as I can for the rest of my life to help others not have to go through the hell we here on BB have and are. I did email a local tv station a while back about this benzo situation but I never heard anything from them. They seem to only want to run stories about pain meds. Benzos are 20 times worse. I’ll keep fighting.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2018, 04:33:46 pm by [Buddie] »

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 06:11:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m 5 months out of C/T (uninformed) Klonopin. Horrible withdrawal experiences. I moved to a new town and got a new PCP. On my new history chart I wrote I was allergic to any and all antidepressants and benzos. The nurse reviewing my chart laughed when she read this. She said “You’re allergic…I can’t make it through the day without mine!” What kind of message is this sending out to us poor unsuspecting patients that unknowingly blindly trust these so called medical professionals?

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 06:25:55 pm »

[Buddie]

I wish that my daughter would listen to me and take my wonderful grand daughter off the A.Ds and benzos that her Dr / Therapist prescribed. It breaks my heart that my clueless daughter would rather believe an unthinking and careless professional than her mother . By not listening to me she discounts all the evidence, knowledge and heartbreak that my recovery has brought to our family. I have given her access to all the information that is out there and nothing has helped change her mind. Gracie is seventeen and cannot make her own choices. All I can do is be there for her if the worst happens .

Re: Saved a buddy from a potential long agony.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 06:37:08 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 13, 2018, 06:25:55 pm
I wish that my daughter would listen to me and take my wonderful grand daughter off the A.Ds and benzos that her Dr / Therapist prescribed. It breaks my heart that my clueless daughter would rather believe an unthinking and careless professional than her mother . By not listening to me she discounts all the evidence, knowledge and heartbreak that my recovery has brought to our family. I have given her access to all the information that is out there and nothing has helped change her mind. Gracie is seventeen and cannot make her own choices. All I can do is be there for her if the worst happens .

Oh […], that would drive me nuts! :tickedoff: I get really mad when I hear about children being drugged. I definitely sympathize with you.

Anti-psychiatry rabble at Benzo Buddies lie to their doctors out of fear of getting locked in psych wards

How are you speaking with your GP
« on: March 01, 2018, 08:43:03 am »

[Buddie]

Hi everyone,

Are you telling to your GP when you going to talk to him about a symptom like blood pressure spikes, headache, etc you are on withdrawal?

I’m afraid to tell to my GP when I’m going with blood pressure problem because the previous one want to send me back to psychiatric doctor after 5 month off when I was still in strong symptoms.

Re: How are you speaking with your GP
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2018, 09:32:55 am »

[Buddie]

I don’t go to my GP or to psychiatrist because I would probably not tell them nice things about what I think about them, their profession and their knowledge.

Re: How are you speaking with your GP
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 10:30:30 am »

[Buddie]

I know what you mean. I thought long time same. Now I’m just afraid to go because I not want to hear any bad.

Re: How are you speaking with your GP
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 11:23:42 am »

[Buddie]

I avoid GP unless essential visit. No point. Just stresses me out.

Re: How are you speaking with your GP
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 01:00:50 pm »

[Buddie]

My advice is, YES, tell your GP that you know why you are having high BP and anxiety issues. Tell him that you have been doing a lot of homework that most in his profession don’t even bother to do. I have almost developed the opinion that if I want to get sick, go visit the doctor! If your GP gives you any condescending comments or shows any sign of brushing your concerns off as if you don’t know what you are talking about………Find another doctor!

Re: How are you speaking with your GP
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2018, 01:49:24 pm »

[Buddie]

My GP is a good guy, who’s been doing this for 30 years, but has NEVER seen a reaction like mine.
he kinda sits there befuddled as i describe all this to him. im like “dude, im TELLIN ya im not exaggerating, and then i ramble for 10 minutes on the horror.”
He sorta skeptically believes me, and he actually feels bad, takes some responsibility. in my case, i tell him its not his fault because my whole ordeal im convinced was brought on with insane levels of binge drinking the last two years before i went sober. my alcohol withdrawal melded right into my benzo withdrawal.

hes doing what he can, taking frequent blood tests, monitoring my bp and all, but hes pretty uncertain on just what the hell to do with me. when im really struggling, hes like, well, the number one thing you need you cant take now.

its the irony of my life that 5 years ago i went completely sober, got in the gym, hit it hard, changed so many things in my life to try and “see the light” as i cruise through my 40’s…and its been an absoulte unholy hell since the day i put a beer down, quite frankly…and ive never felt as effed up in my life as i have when i went straight….yeah…