Ashton kooks flip out after eating venison, chipmunk

vension
« on: November 03, 2017, 12:55:46 am »

[Buddie]

I just ate some venison for supper and my symptoms flared right up what the fuck is going on i dont get it

Re: vension
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 04:15:20 pm »

[Buddie]

guess im the only one thanks for the help this website is unreal

Re: vension
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 05:27:28 pm »

[Buddie]

This should crack you up! I hunt chipmunk for the pelts. I was skinning them in the woods by the fire and had the idea if I ever had to survive out there I could eat chipmunks. So instead of just feeding the coyotes I cooked one on a stick. Very well done I might add and it was delicious just one test bite. For days I wasn’t feeling well and thought back to that incident when I went into a relapse. It’s so crazy how my mind keeps trying to find a definitive reason for feeling so bad over and over again. I’m fine now and you will be too. It’s just the physical and mental nature of the benzo beast! Take care and keep fighting. By the way always cook wild shit well done.

FEAR OF BACON

Bacon
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:08:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone have any trouble with bacon when in pretty accute state? I really need to eat a piece of bacon… Please, any opinions good or bad.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 05:19:45 pm »

[Buddie]

I understand your query. True – I don’t have any problems now, but i’m 3.7 years out. When I was in acute, milk products kind of gave me loose stool (not quite diarrhea). I had a fair bit of reflux and a little bloating. It wasn’t terrible, but I did have some minor GI issues/food sensitivities. I could pretty easily treat those ‘issues’ (e.g. with OTC antacids) or I could just ignore them (e.g. loose stool). I only dropped one ‘food’ (an artificial sweetener that seemed to give me hot flashes followed by night sweats). But it’s true – GI issues weren’t as big a withdrawal symptom for me compared with some of the other symptoms (insomnia had to be my most debilitating symptom). Perhaps others will chime in about bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2017, 04:41:39 pm »

[Buddie]

There is uncured and no nitrate bacon.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 am by [Buddie] »

Re: Bacon
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:37 am »

[Buddie]

Guys slightly off topic, but I added coconut oil to my diet yesterday (and i am going to create a new thread for this). Now it did not seem to rev me up, that is I did not 30 mins later suddenly start panicking, or tiwtching or anything like that BUT it kind of made me extremely mellow… EXTREMELY, as if I just hit a fat green weed flavoured pegasus bong. Following this I have never felt so chilled, not in 5 weeks, sleepy and chilled and well calm… NOW im no scientist and I should probably be thankfull but im worried AF now. How cna that be. Does coconut oil mess with your GABA receptors? I think its good to have fats like coconut oil in your brain right for nerve healing, but whats up with that effect? Would you all be worried? IS coconut oil one of those foods that we should be avoiding like certain herbs that people avoid which interact with GABA? Any feelings on this? then we can go back to the bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 11:54:25 am »

[Buddie]

new girl do you weigh 42 kg’s? eish…. I may have some other issues rolled in though. doctors are sending me for MS screening. I am fine most days then out of the blue I get hit with these head symptoms, I become instantly dumb, feels like there is a block in the left side of my face, struggle to think and concentrate, get deeply detached and hazy. Very scary. I am hoping that is not he case. I was free of this best for 10 months, and then I took like 55 times the amount of vitmain b complex that a normal human should take per day for 3 days and suddenly anxiety started, then physical symptoms and now full on cognitive symptoms. So my problems are pretty huge right now. I dont know if this think is a benzo relapse, some kind of permanent damage from the high number of multivitamins I took (which in hindsight I have learned can actually do nerve damage) or some sort of MS attack. Very scary. I am HOPING like hell it is a just a benzo fall back and not MS or the multiple types of complications that vitamin hypertoxicity can cause. Its pretty scary. I’m pretty chilled by its a scary place. the fact that symptoms come and go tell me its very possibly a benzo wave. But it has lasted 5 weeks now with very little improvement if any. At least on the mental side. I think that I have just generally damaged my nervous system at this point, who knows.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 12:40:43 pm »

[Buddie]

Oh, […], I’m so sorry to hear you have these terrible symptoms, must be really tough! 

It’s good that you are seeing some doctors about this, even if they don’t find anything, it’s better to be reassured. I don’t have much experience with PAWS, as I am still tapering, so I don’t have much advice here, maybe you could also post in the Post-withdrawal support thread about this?

Just out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what did you take the vitamin b complex for? And how did you manage to obtain such a high dose?

Big hugs and all my strengths to you!!! I hope you’ll get soon over this!

Re: Bacon
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 12:58:29 pm »

[Buddie]

NewGirl,

I’m a complete idiot. it was a collection of vitamins that I had built up over probably the space of a year and a half. I got a mild headache and thought hey maybe I will just give myself a vitamin BOOST and that will clear it up. it was 6 different bottles. 3 were B-complexes, one was a Maxi-B, one was an iron and folate (which also had B vits), and the other 2 were multivitamins. All had B-complexes all of them basically. I had been healed for o long that withdrawal was no longer a part of my life, I was healed 100 percent. I never even thought ” hey this could trigger me” thats how war out and healed I was. I took all 6 pills each day for a few days, I might have even doubled up on one day. Im so embarrassed even typing this actually, its like i potentially threw my life away. the damage seems permanent and I seem VERY sensitive to foods, I think high vitamin b-6 foods. So i eat no meat. I am eating enough in my opinion to maintain my weight but alas it still drops at least 250 grams a day… SO in short, my issues may not even be benzo related, I may have simply poisoned my nervous system (potentially fatally), especially if I cant eat meat. Im basically holding on, hoping my weight doesnt drop to levels where they have to hospitalize as this would lead to medicating by doctors who dont understand benzo withdrawal let alone vitmain hypertoxicity. so I want to avoid that. You see, im not sure if this is maybe a benzo setback, GOD i hope it is NewGirl. then I know i have hope. If it is poisoning then I dont think I see the year out. Which I have made peace with actually. Its just my kids that worry me… My heart is breaking for my kids, one is 4 and the other is 4 months. All I can do is hold on. its so complicated, what if i get diagnosed with MS but it isnt MS and they treat me and it aggravates my potential benzo withdrawal further. What if it really is MS and they medicate me with steroids or something that I would obviously need but that is not compatible with my benzo history? Do I then live my whole life in withdrawal due to the medication that I need to live continuously triggering withdrawal? Its a complete mess. OR it is vitamin hyper toxicity and the doctors hospitalize me and pump me FULL of nutrients to help me pick up weight, including more B-vits thus doing more damage. SO Ja, I went from being in the absolute best position ever, healed from benzo withdrawal after just a month and a half (maybe 2 months) to basically the worst position that a mortal person could be in. I basically check mated myself. Apologies for the long respond and for killing the fun nature of the post.

And dont worry, surprisingly my mind is in the right place regardless of all of this, I am getting used to it. the thing that makes me worry that its not withdrawal but more just some kind of permanent toxicity damage to the nervous system is that it has reached a point where it just isnt improving at all. Im hoping something just happens and it begins to lift or fade with time, like the nerve damage can magically heal over time. But in the mean time im not sure what to eat and what to avoid so as to fascilitate this repair. Real tough. I live with a lot of powerful anxiety which is not in the mind but in the nervous system, if you have withdrawn from benzos then you know what that feels like, I have detachment, fear, pain in limbs, tired limbs. So unbelievable, and I was a new man, healed, new house, new kid, beautiful wife. All pretty much on its way out. Tough one.

Apologies again 

Pretty soon Moran’s brainwashed kooks won’t be able to eat anything

Did vegetarianism cause my anxiety or make it worse?
« on: August 14, 2016, 04:20:45 am »

[Buddie]

I’ve thought about this one a lot. My anxiety really kicked into high gear in 2004 when two things happened. I started Prilosec and I stopped eating meat. Since 2008 I’ve been eating chicken and fish again (I can’t eat dairy, it wrecks my stomach). I think I’ve felt better, but all my levels are still low. Iron, B12, etc. It’s caused me to wonder again if I should consider eating red meat again. Thoughts?

No addict should be allowed to get behind the wheel and endanger others

Most of the benzodiazepine addicts, that haunt Benzo Buddies and the secret Facebook groups, describe themselves as totally disabled: needing to crawl to the bathroom, experiencing auditory and visual hallucinations, unable to walk (Alee Sun/Ally Nugent claims she needs a walker years off benzos), claims that a single apple causes a night of myoclonic jerking and that a stick of chewing gum can send them into months-long waves, etc. Why should they be allowed to drive? Do you want to share the road with some poor, mentally ill drug addict who thinks Kentucky Fried Chicken is a government plot to poison them?

During their often years-long tapers, they should lose their driving privileges. As many addicts relapse, post-taper they should be subject to random drug testing – as a condition of the taper. This should be enforced by the state and the prescribing doctor.

Society has to be protected from drug abusers who break the law and drive just as we protect it from drunk drivers.

Norway test drivers for BZO
« on: July 13, 2016, 07:05:52 am »

[Buddie]

http://www.aftenbladet.no/nyheter/Dette-apparatet-har-gitt-UP-en-ny-og-skremmende-rekord-for-ruskjoring-3960544.html

OMG, the repercussions this will have to people who have been off the drug for weeks will be jailed/fine for driving under the influence of BZO, unlike a alcohol test this does not measure a percentage, but just the fact its in your system. I can understand this for truck drives, public transport, but to random test drivers for BZO is outrageous. Because of the fact it not measured in percentage to lawfully drive. Someone who has been off the drug will test for weeks and weeks.

Re: Norway test drivers for BZO
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 08:03:35 am »

[Buddie]

This is actually what got my mother to start her tapering! She put her car in the garage and started the day she found out! I imagine that she is not the only one!

Re: Norway test drivers for BZO
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 08:09:27 am »

[Buddie]

http://nhi.no/livsstil/helsetjenesten/diverse/forerkort-og-b-preparater-35928.html
This thread may be useful to see how it actually will effect drivers with the new rules!

Re: Norway test drivers for BZO
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 08:32:06 am »

[Buddie]

Problem is there is no way to detect the percentage of the drug BZO in your system, unlike driving with illegal drugs, which is understandable, BZO will test you positive, even weeks after stopping, So you will be charged with driving as if you took 3 or 4 10 mg doses, make no difference whether or not you stopped weeks ago. The time and money involved to clear you would be enormous, let alone the jail time and fine, maybe you could win in court but that would be a long and expensive road, and for those that cannot afford will suffer the wrath of the judicial system. I really am frustrated people using BZO prescribed are targeted the same as ifusing cocain or crack or any other illegal drug!

Two cookies and ice cream cause savage wave

Has anyone had a window closed by eating the wrong foods?
« on: June 27, 2016, 02:18:34 pm »

[Buddie]

I was having a great two day window and thought I was finally out of the woods. I went to a party, stayed away from the alcohol, but decided to indulge on food. Two cookies and ice cream to top it off. The next day some of my symptoms crept back in, not as bad as before, but very irritated. Mostly the physical symptoms, but along with that comes the mental aspect. Does this happen to anyone else? I should have known better. Ugh! ???

Freak show: Add tomato juice, tomatoes, cheddar cheese and whole wheat bread to things Ashton’s kooks can’t eat

Could diet be causing symptoms?
« on: May 27, 2016, 11:16:20 pm »

[Buddie]

I was feeling a little more normal this morning, which is unusual. Mid-morning I had yogurt, banana & kiwi for snack. Lunch I had avacado, cheddar cheese, sliced tomato with butter, mayo on 2 slices of 100% whole wheat bread with glass of tomato juice.

About 1/2 hr later I became extremely tired so closed my eyes and tried to nap but got my regular 10 min toxic nap where I woke up in burning nerve pain, very anxious.

For those who know nutrition, could what I ate have caused this? I’m low in potassium so need the tomato/banana a potassium pill upsets my stomach.

Thank you.

Sunny

Re: Could diet be causing symptoms?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 11:42:26 pm »

[Buddie]

Try eliminating the tomato and the tomato juice and see if you feel better. Try for a day. If it works, I’ll tell you my hunch. Can’t hurt.

Re: Could diet be causing symptoms?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2016, 01:38:06 am »

[Buddie]

Cheedar cheese…whole wheat bread… , the question is answerd

Organic food is bad for benzo withdrawal?

Organic food
« on: May 02, 2016, 07:21:33 am »

[Buddie]

Does organic food have any affect on withdrawal? Its good right? I’ve been trying to buy organic fruit, milk, eggs etc lately just because Im stupid to read on the Internet about food and get anxious. Guess what, whatever I do I get anxious. Now Im anxious for eating organic food, reading on the Internet saying its actually worse than normal food. 

What about you guys?

Kooky Monday: Food panic

Organic food
« on: May 02, 2016, 07:21:33 am »

[Buddie]

Does organic food have any affect on withdrawal? Its good right? I’ve been trying to buy organic fruit, milk, eggs etc lately just because Im stupid to read on the Internet about food and get anxious. Guess what, whatever I do I get anxious. Now Im anxious for eating organic food, reading on the Internet saying its actually worse than normal food. 

What about you guys?

Cult members unable to work due to brainwashing

I am in a predicament
« on: February 04, 2016, 04:54:06 am »

[Buddie]

Hi guys

So I am up to 11% on my taper, still having withdrawal such as anxiety, paranoia and obsessive thoughts.

My gp has signed me off work and will not sign me back on until he is assured that my symptoms are under control.

Work are making noises about me returning to work or be dismissed under health grounds

I am a member of the union and am waiting for them to call me back to advise

All of this is just making me feel worse and constantly increasing my anxiety

I feel under pressure to go back even though I know I’m not ready, I have a very stressful job and at the moment I struggle to cope with normal day to day stresses.

Any idea how I can go forward and stop worrying so much about losing my job

Many thanks

Re: I am in a predicament
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2016, 10:38:21 am »

[Buddie]

[…],
I understand your condition as well. I have experienced it myself. I almost fainted when my manager called me for some regular scrum meeting. He obviously was curious with my condition and I was marked as ‘sick person’ by team. Since I cannot maintain my job at that time, I decided to resign, unfortunately.

Sorry that I don’t have any idea what’s the best for your situation. But if I you still can maintain your anxiety at working place, I suggest you to prepare some countermeasure when you are in anxious condition.

In my case, my pdoc suggest me to prepare some plastic or paper bag in case of sudden panic or anxiety attack. I asked to breath from that bag so I can obtain more Co2 to avoid hyperventilation.

My I ask when you drink your medicine daily? Since I move to my new environment, I decide to let myself suffer at night rather than at working place, so I move my medicine intake time at morning before going to work, later cut it into 2, and divide it for morning intake and night intake.

Wish you get better soon.
Contiki

Re: I am in a predicament
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2016, 03:38:14 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi:

I had a very similar situation and had to end up signing off from work, due to my benzo/other psych drugs problems. But they were very nice and gave me 5 years of my full salary. Now I am ready and willing to work outside of my home, but it has been very difficult for me to find a job, as I am not young. There’s an old NA motto that I go by to get rid of any anxiety: You can’t change other people. You can only change yourself. AKA the ball is in their court right now. So pls try not to future trip. Also, the lower the dose you are on the smaller the cuts have to be. I think, right now, you may want to slow down a bit or try liquid titration.

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Re: I am in a predicament
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2016, 12:24:41 am »

[Buddie]

I assume you’re in the US since you mentioned a union. Did you formally go on fmla? Under that you are protected from being fired. They have to give you a job back, it just doesn’t have to be the job that you had. That’s what you need to decide on. Can you handle giving up your current job? You can’t blame an employer if they need to backfill your position if you have been out for some time. Is there a way to negotiate with them? Maybe work half time or work from home? I have a very stressful job too but I was counseled to try the up front approach with my managers to work out a solution that worked for them and me. Everything worked out well in the end.