Addict goes doctor shopping

Just a little rant against Doctors
« on: September 25, 2017, 07:50:51 pm »


So I wasn’t sure where else to put this, but just wanted to get it off my chest. I went to see my 2nd p-doc within the last month in order to attempt to obtain a legitimate prescription to valium for the purposes of tapering. Also was looking for a script to remeron, since my sleep is still pretty bad even after reinstating. I made the mistake of mentioning tapering down, and switching over from the klonopin that I had previously been on. Big mistake. In the US, doctors just don’t get it. He actually said “well if there’s an addiction, we need to stop the benzos. You’ll feel a little anxiety for a few days, but then you’ll be ok” Lol. He then said but if you have GAD, and valium or klonopin seem to work for you, then we can go that route. I immediately said yes, I think I’ve have GAD. You see, docs just don’t want to get involved in the whole tapering business. It’s messy. I’m not sure if they’re completely ignorant to protracted WD, or if they just don’t want to get involved in a tapering schedule. With them, everything HAS to have a diagnosis. And if it’s benzo dependancy (addiction or not), than they are apparently almost never willing to write a script to taper. Because if it’s dependance, the solution is to get off the drug right NOW, find some other diagnosis, and put you on some other med that probably won’t help, and will likely make things worse. Long story short.. I get ONE WEEKS supply of valium and remeron, and have to go back in a week (another $150) to re-evaluate. I’m just going to stick to my GAD diagnosis and taper on my own. Hopefully he will trust me enough to change the visits to once a month.

Here is the real kicker: In the whole visit, he offered me gabapentin, paxil, effexor, anafranil (which I’d be willing to retry at some point b/c it of positive past with it). And the most outrageous of all.. He actually offered me buprenorphine (Suboxone) to help treat DEPRESSION!! Are you kidding me?? I was trying to be as personable and friendly as I could, so I just said “hmmm.. I haven’t been on opiates in about 8 months. That might have made a little more sense if I made the transition back then, but at this point, I’m not sure what the benefit would be?”. Come to find out, their have actually been clinical trials using buprenophine for depression, and it’s soon going to be a new depression treatment! What’s next? Oxycodone for depresssion? It makes you feel good, right? Anyway, he just refused to believe or accept that I’m trying to allow my brain to slowly recover from years of addictive psychotropic drugs. And that it takes time. But that’s just not how they think. It can’t last that long, they say. There must be some underlying condition that needs to be treated with a new drug. That’ll fix it. Sigh. Western medicine.. I guess that’s how they stay in business.

First question: “How do I find a doctor (who will give me benzos)? I fucking love them!”

My first question to everyone...
« on: February 26, 2017, 08:24:34 pm »


How do I find a doctor that will taper me over a long period of time. All three tapers I have tried were between 1 and 3 months. And they all resulted badly, severe depression and anxiety along with cognitive effects and pain.
It seems like every doctor knows how to prescribe Benzos and I can’t find one to taper me off them without crashing me.
3mg clonazapam for 17 years. Was great for the first year and the years after just got worse and worse. It has changed me for the worse in so many ways.

“Help! Should I take a rescue dose?”

Use of Benzo while withradwing
« on: January 24, 2017, 10:16:50 am »


Tomorrow I have a meeting with a customer of my company and am of course scared to death.

I know it’s not good, but after dumping all my Valium, I bought a couple of xanax tablets for just in case.

I am really thinking of taking one pill of 0,5 mg only for tomorrow.

Anyone been in the situation in which you have the urge to take a benzo for just the most difficult situation?

Kooky Monday: Benzo Buddies advocates taking morphine when taper gets rough

« on: August 08, 2016, 12:58:38 pm »


When i have excruciating pains with OUR friend
I take 10mg Morphine
And survive
Think about it

Vaccines bring 7 diseases under control

Two hundred years after the discovery of vaccine by the English physician Edward Jenner, immunization can be credited with saving approximately 9 million lives a year worldwide. A further 16 million deaths a year could be prevented if effective vaccines were deployed against all potentially vaccine-preventable diseases.

So far only one disease, smallpox, has been eradicated by vaccines, saving approximately five million lives annually.

Polio could be next. Over 80% of the world’s children are now being immunized against the polio virus, and the annual number of cases has been cut from 400,000 in 1980 to 90,000 in the mid-1990s. If the year 2000 goal of eradicating polio is achieved, the United States will be able to save the $270 million a year that is currently spent on polio vaccination. The savings for Western European countries will amount to about $200 million a year.

Measles, currently killing 1.1 million children a year, is another possible candidate for eradication. Once high levels of routine immunization have been achieved, national immunization days, followed by close monitoring and ‘blitzing’ of any outbreaks, can eliminate the disease.

In all, vaccines have brought seven major human diseases under some degree of control – smallpox, diphtheria, tetanus, yellow fever, whooping cough, polio, and measles.

Most of the vaccines now in use have been available for several decades, but only in the last 15 years has protection been extended to the majority of children in the developing world. Only about a quarter were being immunized when, in the mid-1980s, UNICEF and WHO called for a new commitment to regularly reaching 80% of infants by 1990. In most nations, that goal was reached and has since been sustained – saving over 3 million young lives each year. As frequent disease is also a major cause of malnutrition, immunization is also helping to protect the normal growth of millions of children.

The table below summarizes the progress so far.

Immunization: the story so far

Progress to date against diseases for which vaccines already exist and deaths from diseases for which vaccines might be developed.

NOTE: Figures for the number of deaths that would occur in the absence of immunization are generally calculated by taking the known mortality rate of each disease in the unvaccinated and applying it to the total population.

Yellow fever still causes an estimated 30,000 deaths a year but is omitted from this table because information is not available on the number of deaths currently prevented by vaccination.

* Oral rehydration therapy (ORT) is preventing approximately 1 million deaths a year from the dehydration that is one of the most common consequences of diarrhoeal disease. Vaccines, which could prevent infection, may become available.

SOURCE: Estimates supplied by Children’s Vaccine Initiative, Geneva, February 1996.

Xanax abuse (not use) a growing problem

GOLDEN VALLEY, Minn. – It may not get as much headlines as prescription painkillers and heroin, but Xanax can be just as addictive and deadly for some, experts say. The drug recently made headlines after news the University of Minnesota police were investigating members of the wrestling team for abusing the drug. It is a medication used to reduce anxiety, but too much of it, especially mixed with something else can be dangerous.

“The first time I felt it, I was just hooked immediately,” said Chris, 24. He says he was 16 or 17 when he he tried Xanax for the first time. “I loved it. I loved the high,” he recalled, describing the high similar to being drunk.. Searching to fit in at a new school in Lakeville, he found the answer in the drug also known as Benzodiazepine. “It’s completely destroyed my life. I was stealing from family members, I almost died twice within a year period,” he said. He almost died after overdosing on the drug. He says a friend took him to the hospital. And then a few months later he says he blacked out while driving. “I swerved off the road and crashed at 70 miles an hour. Luckily I wasn’t hurt though,” he said.

Drug experts say the medication has been around for a while.

“It doesn’t really capture the headlines to the extent opiates and heroin do, but it’s certainly been around for a long time,” said Carol Falkowski of Drug Abuse Dialogues. Falkowski has tracked drug abuse for decades. In her latest drug trends report, she found that it is the second most prescribed drug seized by police. The Minnesota Department of Health also reports an increase of deaths related to Benzodiazepines. “We have seen an increase of prescribing for all sorts of drugs, so it’s logical to expect an increase in abuse,” she said.

Chris says he saw an increase in the use of Benzodiazepine among his friends in the south metro as recent as last year. “The medicine has a proper use but people abusing it is happening more and more,” he said. He has left that world behind, now in recovery at Minnesota Adult and Teen Challenge. He credits the treatment and his faith in Christianity that helped him to become sober. He says he’s grateful he’s alive to warn others of his mistakes. “It can cost you your life,” he said.

Pro-Scientology kooks attack reporter for daring to state the truth: “benzodiazepines are often abused”

The offending paragraph:

“House bill 4062 calls on the state Department of Public Health to establish safety protocols for doctors looking to wean patients off of benzodiazepines and sleeping pills. Benzodiazepines are often abused. Drug users take them to boost the high from painkillers, and to decrease the crash caused by cocaine.”

The offending paragraph changed:

“Under McMurtry’s bill (H 4062), the Department of Public Health would be charged with establishing protocols to help patients safely taper off and discontinue their use of benzodiazepines and nonbenzodiazepine hypnotics so that withdrawal is minimized.”

These people just can’t stomach the truth: 1.) they’re addicts 2.) the warning is on the label (and they have personal responsibility for becoming addicted).

Cult maniacs recommend Ecstasy as benzo withdrawal cure

« on: February 27, 2016, 06:13:36 am »


Well i think that´s is the right section — I really would aprecciate if some of those above clear headed , wise yhat wrote about the “pharmacology”of many things that happens in the brain could Chime´in

So , i remember when i was on a heavy dose of clonazepam , at that time i was already hooked to it, In case of Running out of Pills
i would feel very , very bad
I was out with friends always at that time , thats not the poit — The point is I remember that When i took an ectasy on that time , like – wake up – take the benzos , soon later drop the ecstasy , i would feel fine all day long , I would sleep at night , and on the next day i would feel fine , great , and not needing any benzo , times that lasted 2 days without needing it , My question is why ´s that ? Why i didnt needed to take the benzos on those 2 days , after i took the extasy ? if i was already real hooked to them ?

This happend more then once or twice , i break my head trying to figure out , but i cant , may i have some help ?

« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 05:18:34 pm »



Ty , vallley . I wonder why a drug is not developed from it . SMDH

« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 05:22:58 pm »


The US is actually doing trials on MDMA and ketamine for treatment of different issues. Both are good for benzo withdrawal when used in moderation.

« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 02:01:02 am »


Maybe is time to get some pills 

« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 02:16:42 am »


Quote from: [Buddie] on February 28, 2016, 02:01:02 am
Maybe is time to get some pills

I had an RFA on my thoracic area a couple of weeks ago and was given ketamine. It was amazing how much it relieved sxs. I wouldn’t recommend using it much though due to addiction potential. I would think MDMA to be a little safer. I wish there was a clear cut way to mitigate withdrawal.