Benzo Buddies: Advice from naturopath quacks is good, advice from medical doctors is bad

Has any one healed even though they used Valarian Root at night?
« on: April 07, 2018, 05:04:23 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m just wondering if anyone has healed or made progress even though they used Valarian Root?

Re: Has any one healed even though they used Valarian Root at night?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 05:15:27 pm »

[Buddie]

I drank Sleepytime tea extra which has plenty of Valerian Root in it for many months. I stopped because I like chamomile extract […] – that was about four months ago. I don’t remember any correlation of having trouble with any of it.

Re: Has any one healed even though they used Valarian Root at night?
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2018, 05:29:18 pm »

[Buddie]

Ok thanks I can’t feel any emotions and the naturopath suggested I take a capsule with some of these things in it. He said I should still heal cause it’s not the same as taking drugs. It’s hard for me to tell if it’s slowing healing down cause my symptom is the same everyday no matter what I do.

Cult screwball tries GABA supplement, flips out, begs Ashton’s forgiveness

word of caution
« on: March 07, 2018, 08:23:12 pm »

[Buddie]

please do not move this post to the supplement section as I think it’s something everyone needs to see

i am going to be taking a break from BB for a little while due to lots of travel but wanted to post something – i am 9 months out now and had been doing amazing – then – in a frustrated moment with sleep – i decided to try – literally – a 1/2 capsule of GABA – i had used it years ago before z drugs, i had carefully carefully avoided all GABA impacting things until then – well – for 72 hours – i went back into acute – severe severe withdrawal – absolutely terrifying – no sleep in those 72 hours – my heart rate that had been back in the 60s went back to 100 – severe muscle pain, constant chemical induced panic – not anxiety – panic. so – for those of you who have been dabbling with GABA supplements thinking they will ease the burden of withdrawal – this experience showed me that – it is indeed true what the ashton manual says– that anything acting on GABA really isnt helping you but delaying or preventing healing…… withdrawal is horrible – and its just something you have to get through – i really believe that anything acting on GABA is going to hinder or prevent healing – so carefully research what you take – things like holy basil, ashwagandha, relora, passionflower, CBD – they all hit the GABA receptors. if you find you aren’t getting better – this may be why.

thankfully after 72 hours everything went back to normal and i learned a very valuable lesson. i suspect alcohol would have this same effect so will continue to abstain for a good long while – not worth the terror of what i went through in those 72 hours wondering if i had totally reset the clock back to zero… looking forward to my vacation in the sun and then lots of work travel – i am grateful to have reclaimed my life and will never risk my recovery again. I accept sleep will be up and down a while longer!

Kooks chase their tails looking for benzo withdrawal cure, cryotherapy latest magic bullet

cryotherapy
« on: January 02, 2018, 03:04:32 pm »

[Buddie]

Did anyone do cryotherapy in an attempt to reset the body (hormones etc.) ?
And sleep better ?

I start a series of cryo sauna this week.

Re: cryotherapy
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2018, 05:10:27 pm »

[Buddie]

i would be cautious with cryotherapy – it is very extreme – the whole idea of it is to set off a massive endorphin release to heal and repair the body – which is normally a great thing – but in withdrawal – that could be a tough thing for the body to tolerate and could ultimately make things worse. when i was in withdrawal round 1 and didnt understand what was wrong – i took low dose naltrexone – as it’s a similar concept although no where near as extreme as cryotherapy – and i didnt sleep for 10 days. it set off a dramatic adrenal gland reaction that was awful.

i know a lot of people who’ve done cryotherapy to heal from lymes – it normally is a great healing modality but i’d approach it with caution.

not sure how your body responds to exercise. if you are one of the people who does really well with it – cryotherapy may have a positive outcome – if you do not tolerate exercise – like it sets off adrenaline and makes your symptoms worse – i can almost guarantee cryotherapy will have a paradoxical effect for you.

if you try it – certainly let us know how it went. I have a facility right near by that i plan to use once i feel my body could handle it.

Re: cryotherapy
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2018, 05:17:46 am »

[Buddie]

A word of caution…I have read of many different therapies having been used by folks on BB and have tried many myself. So far I have not heard of, or experienced, any that work. A whole lot of money and time was spent chasing these hopes. I have long since come to the conclusion that time is the only healer of what we are all going through.

Re: cryotherapy
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2018, 01:57:53 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on January 02, 2018, 03:04:32 pm
Did anyone do cryotherapy in an attempt to reset the body (hormones etc.) ?
And sleep better ?

I start a series of cryo sauna this week.

I Agree with Aloha and […]. I spent $7,000 going to the Coleman institute in September 2016 for his touted Flumazenil treatment. It did nothing except reset my recovery clock by X amount of time and flatten my wallet! Unfortunately the only way out is through the recovery process, which is all about time and more time. I will be 17 months off on Friday and I am still recovering in the sleep department. I had a decent night of sleep last night, but the night before was about 4 hours of broken sleep. There will be many ups and downs until your brain “fixes” things. In desperation we all look for that “magic” cure, treatment, supplement, therapy, etc. They don’t exist.

Re: cryotherapy
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2018, 04:37:58 pm »

[Buddie]

Tomorrow I will start the first of 3 treatments.
I focus my hope again, already did acupuncture, supplements, and I exercise and do normal sauna .

It is not that expensive, 20 euros per session.

Brainwashed kooks claim MTHFR gene mutation interfering with Ashton worship

Re: MTHFR gene mutation making W/D process worse?
« Reply #81 on: April 16, 2016, 11:38:18 am »

[Buddie]

Hey everyone great thread!

I also have a double mutation of the MTHFR gene C677T amongst other things that say I can not rebuild new neurons and regulate synapses properly 

I am 17 months out and have had the worst withdrawal imagineable, I still can’t even watch TV or go for a walk.

Can I just ask when all of you with this genetic mutation say that you […] to supplement is that because you’ve had additional blood/urine tests to show that the gene mutation is actually effecting you? My doctor says it would be crazy just to supplement on the basis of every gene mutation like this, he says if an an additional blood or urine test actually shows you are deficient in B12, B6, Folate etc. Then he would of course recommend supplementation but if you are not actually deficient then don’t?

He also was quick to say that Dr Lynch was not in fact a doctor and has nothing more than a standard college degree as his credentials, basically dismissed him as a quack.

Despite having the double mutation methyl B12 has been my cryptonite throughout my withdrawal, I’ve tried it on several occasions because I am a vegan too so […] to supplement B12, but when I try it revs me up for days like I’m on acid!

Needless to say I feel particularly stuck at the moment

Appreciate your thoughts

Kooks guzzle Kava Kava in hopes of staving off Ashton cut and suffer taper side effects

kava kava?
« on: February 20, 2016, 02:07:06 am »

[Buddie]

just got some Kava liquid has anybody used this? whats has it done for you? i just took the liquid a bit ago seems to help idk if it works or not please let me know

Re: kava kava?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2016, 07:35:00 am »

[Buddie]

It relaxes me a bit but it can only be taken for a short period. I’ve also noticed that all the “calming” herbs etc. will turn on me after a few days, leaving me more anxious etc. I’m still trying to find a stack that works for me, because we are all different.

Re: kava kava?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 10:04:07 pm »

[Buddie]

why only short period? say its hard on liver possibly but so is drinking.