Ashton devotees add sweating to list of 90,000,000 benzo withdrawal symptoms

The sweats
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:46:20 am »

[Buddie]

Does anybody else get terrible sweats while tapering?.. I’ve had them really badly to the point where I’m dripping and have to put a towel on my bed.

Anyone out there in the same boat?.. summer has started here so the heat doesn’t help..

Thanks

Re: The sweats
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 01:17:41 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes, the sweats. Have had this problem for a long time.
Mostly during the nights when I try to sleep.

Wake up in a pool of sweat every night. We have the window open even if it’s winter here in Sweden.
I’m sweating like crazy. It’s a problem since I really need the sleep I can get. As so many of us here do.
I hope it will go away for us. Enough with sxs as it is.

Re: The sweats
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 08:48:58 pm »

[Buddie]

When I first started cutting down I got the sweats at night. It was ridiculous… I would wake up and my hair would be soak along with my PJs. I’ve never done that. Always been a cold nature person. So far I haven’t had them anymore.

Re: The sweats
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 09:04:53 pm »

[Buddie]

Last night I had really bad sweats! Woke up in the middle of the night and my t-shirt was soaking wet. Had to change my t-shirt and finally fell back asleep. Luckily for the rest of the night, no sweating! Weird!!

Kooks blame high humidity for taper torture

Does High Humidity Make You Feel 10x Worse?
« on: July 31, 2016, 11:00:34 am »

[Buddie]

I’m holding my taper in an attempt to stabilize and the last week has been much worse but so has the humidity. I stay inside all day with AC but does anyone know what humidity does to a body on benzos/in withdrawal/unstable?

Re: Does High Humidity Make You Feel 10x Worse?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2016, 12:06:18 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes…it happens the same to me. Now in Spain we are hitting 40 degrees (european system)…and with the humidity it’s fucking insane.

I feel it a lot in the legs…and burning feet.

Kooks add bruising to list of 90,000,000 benzo withdrawal symptoms

Anyone else bruising easy?
« on: June 25, 2016, 01:29:16 am »

[Buddie]

I have a bruise on my leg from meditating with shoes on all the time. I never bruise even if I get hit hard I don’t bruise. Well now I might .

Is this because my blood is flowing all wacky?

Tufts Medical Center psychiatrist Dr. Edward Silberman: “Benzos safer than aspirin”

Abuse may be obscuring other dangers

The war against the opioid epidemic in Massachusetts may be pushing another potential public health crisis into the shadows.

According to research by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, benzodiazepines – a class of anti-anxiety and insomnia drugs, such as Ativan, Klonopin and Xanax – were involved in 31 percent of all opioid-related overdose deaths in 2014.

Benzos, the shorthand name for the drug class, relieve anxiety by slowing the central nervous system. Opioids work on the brain and nervous system in the same way. The combination of the two can severely depress respiratory activity, with life threatening consequences. CDC data from 1999 through 2014 shows that overdose deaths due to benzos has increased 600 percent from 1,135 people in 1999 to 7,945 people in 2014.

An analysis of the CDC data by Dr. Marcus Bachhuber for the American Journal for Public Health, found that between 1996 and 2013, the number of adults filling a benzodiazepine prescriptions increased 67 percent, from 8.1 million to 13.5 million people. And, among people who filled benzo prescriptions, the amount more than doubled between 1996 and 2013, suggesting higher doses per patient. The study also showed that benzo-related deaths rose at a faster rate than both the number of people filling prescriptions or the quantity filled.

State Rep. Paul McMurtry, D-Dedham, has proposed a bill to limit and regulate benzodiazepine prescriptions. A hearing on the proposal held at the Statehouse in April, which included emotional testimony from addicts, survivors and healthcare providers. The bill was sent back to committee on study order and could remain there for months. Fall River Rep. Carole Fiola, who co-sponsored the bill, says the state should be doing more to regulate the drugs. “Massachusetts has always been a leader in many areas of legislation, and we are bringing up a conversation that is important to a lot of people,” Fiola said. “That’s our role and we will continue to gather the facts and research this over the next several months, and see what comes from that.”

Opponents say the threat from benzos is overblown.

Tufts Medical Center psychiatrist Dr. Edward Silberman, who testified against the bill, said benzos are a relatively safe drug. Unless a patient suffers from addiction to other substances as well, benzos can’t do much harm, he said. “These medications, taken alone, are amongst the safest medications that doctors prescribe,” Silberman said. “They’re safer than aspirin. It’s practically impossible to kill yourself by overdosing on benzodiazepines.”

However, Dr. Richard D. Lewis, who has worked in a New Bedford mental health clinic for 20 years, says doctors need to understand the deadly interaction between benzos and opiates. He maintains a blog for an addiction website called Mad in America, where recent post focuses on the deadly mix. “I think this crisis is going pretty much unnoticed,” Lewis said. “I would argue that you can’t solve or make a dent into the opiate crisis without addressing the benzo issue. Lewis says opioid addicts often are given Suboxone or Methadone, which are opiates, themselves. These individuals will, Lewis says, experience anxiety or trouble sleeping, often leading doctors to prescribe benzos. And that, Lewis says, can contribute to opioid overdoses because of the negative interactions of the two drugs. “Benzos and opiates will kill you,” Lewis said. “It’s the synergistic effect of one plus one becomes five.”

Statistics on benzo-related deaths in Massachusetts are hard to come by. Most of the focus by pathologists has been on calculating and tracking opioid deaths. According to Felix Browne, a spokesman for the state Office of Public Safety, statistics for overdose deaths can be misleading. He said cause of death is pulled from death certificates, which can be hastily done. Any conclusive determination in final autopsy reports require a full toxicology screening that can cost upwards of $2,500. The state Medical Examiner’s Office usually doesn’t do such screenings unless there are suspicious circumstances or the family requests it and pays the cost. Final autopsy reports can take from a few months to a few years, due to backlog in cases. Until completed, there’s no way of knowing how much of each drug was in the victim’s system at the time of death.

“The Medical Examiner’s Office has their own way of operating that is very little understood.” Browne said. “Survivors just want to know how their loved one died so they can move on. That’s what the death certificate is for. It’ll say something like ‘acute intoxication’ or ‘cardiac arrest,’ but it’s often more than one substance that’s involved. They don’t know until the full autopsy report is filed.”

For now, it is unlikely any action will be taken on benzos.

Fiola says she hopes the bill will be reconsidered next session. But, Silberman says legislation isn’t the answer. “It’s really very difficult to legislate good medical practice. It’s a little bit like trying to legislate morality. You can have an impact, but it’s using a very broad brush to deal with a problem,” Silberman said. “In medicine, one should think about the individual patient, and one size doesn’t necessarily fit all.”

BENZO BELLY NIGHTMARES

What´s the deal with our belly?
« on: April 08, 2016, 05:58:08 pm »

[Buddie]

I don’t know about you but before withdrawing of benzos, I was in shape and thin. Now, after 11 months of much suffering, just “eatinng and sleeping”, I gained much weight, it seems like all wheigth(fat) that i gained went straight to my belly, my arms and legs, chest and others body areas are still looking thin, and looking at my belly, it looks like it`s swollen as if something was wrong inside, It`s not looking normal, Im thinking about set an appointment with a doctor to see what`s going on
Is there any explanation about why all the wheight i gained went straight to the belly , or why the belly its looking swollen ? please let me know your opinion about this, much appreciate, many thanks, […].

Addict blames pervy doctor for relapse

Well, I'm screwed
« on: March 14, 2016, 03:36:43 pm »

[Buddie]

I got a new doctor, an “addicitionologist,” who was supposed to help. He gave me a giant bottle in Feb and said he couldn’t see me until April.

Had a couple triggering events happen (was strangled/beaten last year) and took more benzos than the taper plan. I was sober. I thought I could handle it. I should have given the pills to someone. Since the abuse, I started drinking and no outpatient programs would take me because I was on benzos.

Called doctor and told him what happened. Told him I will run out on Friday and am scared. He told me to call the rehab where he serves as a doctor. Turns out it’s the place they sent me after I went crazy after a 5-day detox at Glenbeigh (they lied on the phone and said they’d continue my slow taper). I was awake for over 2 weeks. I had Cotard’s syndrome. No one believed that it was the benzos.

Heard back from the doctor’s office today. They said they doubt he’ll fill my prescription if I abused them, so advised me to call the rehab place. I called. They said they can’t take me for outpatient unless I’m off benzos. They want me to come in an be detoxed.

My work told me I have no more med leave. I can’t go on med leave or I’ll be fired. This is beside the point that REHABS DO NOT UNDERSTAND BENZO DETOX. They made me crazy and blamed me for it. When I was reinstated on benzos, they thought it was a fucking miracle.

I’m not going through the hell of cold turkey benzo withdrawal again. No one is listening to me. I know that no one will listen to me because they watched me go through withdrawal before and told me “you’ve ruined your insides with drugs” and “this rehab knows what they’re doing”. Meanwhile….

My parents don’t want to help anymore. My friends are sick of hearing about it. Everyone just treats me like a junkie.

I don’t feel like I have any options.

Why don’t people understand that benzos are not like heroin? You don’t just get sick.

I may be an addict, but I NEVER asked to be prescribed these drugs. I never bought them on the street or asked for them by name. I didn’t even know what they were. They were given to me by a doctor because I couldn’t sleep after being sexually assaulted. I thought they were a miracle at the time. They kept upping the dose and upping the dose. Now I’m just an uncooperative junkie.

I don’t feel like fighting anymore.

Re: Well, I'm screwed
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2016, 03:42:58 pm »

[Buddie]

Keep up the fight. I know it is hard, but you can do this! I know all about Glenbeigh, as I used to live in Ohio. Went there for an interview and listened to the crap they had to say and left. But the Cleveland Clinic detox was the very worst. I would suggest that you stay away from it. Such a horrible place, with horrible psychs, at least for me. Plus what they charge!
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Re: Well, I'm screwed
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2016, 05:27:38 pm »

[Buddie]

The other rehab I went to was the Clinic. I did everything they asked and went right back on Klonopin. My experience was a nightmare.

The pervy Doctor Gregory Collins would stare at my chest while he bragged about his writing skills and love of opera. During that time, my boss was asking me out to dinner and I was freaked out because I thought I’d lose my job if I said no. I told Collins that it was really concerning me and his reply? “I don’t see the problem with dating your boss. He seems like a great guy.” (All he knew about my boss was that he had a PhD in a fancy field.) I told the pervy Dr. Collins I was not interested in having dinner with my boss AT ALL and that the pervy Doctor’s views of women in the workplace were antiquated. He then proceeded to make a clerical error and give me a script for half the dosage of librium he actually told me I should be on. I couldn’t function for a week and almost killed myself because I was in so much anguish. When my parents became concerned because I was doing so badly, they wanted to meet with Dr. Collins to discuss my medication. I thought that sounded normal, but when I told him, he thought it was MY idea to bring them in!! He told me I was trying to “get revenge” because I was angry about what he’d said about my boss. Before I left his office, he told me I was full of self-pity and that he was very disappointed in my behavior.

Despite that completely fucked up scenario, I completed the program to the very end. (Because that’s what uncooperative junkies do, right? They spend all their time and money going to a rehab that admitted to a clerical error and under-dosed them?) During the aftercare, the counselor was talking about what happens to your sex life while you’re getting sober. She asked who in the group was sexually active. People raised hands. Then she asked who in the group was married. People raised hands. Then she said “Well, y’all who aren’t married shouldn’t be having sex, so this conversation shouldn’t apply to you.”

No one can tell me I have not tried to get off these drugs using their system. I have literally gone to hell because of these drugs and do not suspect that I’ll survive this upcoming slip through the cracks.

P.s. Someone told me the Pervy Doctor Gregory Collins was charged for malpractice. I wish I could have been part of that suit.

Always there, always watching

MOVED: A very weird thing happened today - saw my post on an anti-BB site
« on: February 23, 2016, 03:39:35 am »

[Buddie]

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