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Dangerous symptoms after fast valium taper? Can I die?
« on: April 09, 2017, 03:19:53 am »

[Buddie]

I take Klonopin and Valium. I went off 5mg of Valium in 16 days after being on it for one year.
The first week, I felt fine and I was happy to be down one benzo. I was sure I could stay off it and would never need it again.
After about a week and a half, I began to feel very weak arms and nervous system problems. My arms were getting weaker and developing more pain by the day. Then I felt my body go into a spasmodic state, throughout one day, and it was breaking down (legs shaking, trouble breathing/swallowing) so I drove home from work like a mad woman to run and get some valium. I took 5mg and all of the nervous system issues ceased….

I have now reinstated on valium for the past three days and am getting more severe symptoms from going back on it — weak legs, arms, the feeling of about to pass out, numbness, tingling, electrocution feelings, thinking I need to call 911. It’s as if my body is telling me it doesn’t want it. I am so confused.

I am trying to drop off the valium again tonight because I think I shocked my body by both going off it and going back on it. I am not quite sure what to do, if these withdrawal symptoms and reinstatement symptoms are serious….After having messed with my valium, I have felt on the border of going into seizures, convulsions, or whatever one might call a central nervous system breakdown.

Big question: SHOULD I JUST STAY OFF THE VALIUM AT THIS POINT? What would happen if I just let my nervous system continue to breakdown and took no rescue dose?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2017, 04:23:26 am by [Buddie] »

Re: Dangerous symptoms after fast valium taper?
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2017, 03:31:46 am »

[Buddie]

You have damaged your brain with the valium and your CNS is in revolt and breakdown all at the same time. Tapper again slowly it may take 6 months to a year. So that you can heal. All of those symptoms are classic w/d. Do not freak out it may take a year for you to heal.

Ashton’s kooks crawl toward oblivion

We Are Not The Minority
« on: May 05, 2016, 05:41:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Buddies,

We are not the minority.

We are at the very initial stage of a tsunami groundswell, out in the middle of the ocean when it appears as just a tiny ripple on the surface of the water. Look at the growing number of people in the Introductions board who register as new members of BB every single day. Look at the number of “200 guests” who constantly churn through the BB turnstile reading anonymously. These new members and guests feel like crap and they are starting to figure out what’s happening to them. We members are their beacons. Our posts are providing them with knowledge and answers about the drugs they are taking and the dangerous effects they have on their brains. We are not a minority of poor unfortunate souls who are suffering through rare withdrawal symptoms. We are a small part of the MAJORITY of people who take these drugs who have decided to get off them. THAT is one minority we are in. Luckily we found BB and we are brave and honest enough to share our experiences. THAT is another minority we are in.

These drugs catch up with everyone eventually. Sometimes it takes years to hit tolerance if your body has the enzyme to metabolize the drug. But the drugs eventually wreak havoc on everyone who takes them. Eventually everyone downregulates their GABA receptors if they take the drugs up to the point of hitting tolerance. Nobody gets a free pass once they hit tolerance and downregulate their receptors. Nobody. The rollercoaster bar descends automatically on top of our bloated bellies and we are in for the ride of a lifetime.

The rollercoaster ride, thankfully, is not forever. Eventually the car we are in comes to a full and complete stop, the security bar automatically rises, we walk slowly and carefully off the ride and stroll alongside the rest of humanity enjoying the amusement park.

We members of BB who have been at this for awhile are pulling out of this shitshow, while others are just beginning their journeys. Our posts will give them hope that they will get their lives back. I’m going to continue posting to comfort others until I’m healed. I appreciate the companionship and support I receive from my fellow rollercoaster riders every single day.

Thank you BB family,

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« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 07:05:09 pm by [Buddie] »

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 05:46:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I dont write here much lately but I must say this message is pure truth. Anyone who has perfomee even the most basic of searches in regards to these pills will soon learn that there are millions of people on this crap. Granted there are those who never stop taking them and then again there are people like us.

This is unfortunately, only the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

L

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 07:28:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes!! So true!! And think of the countless people who try to stop taking benzos but when they have a resurgence or even a new onset of anxiety and/or depression, among other things, they don’t see the correlation. Their psychiatrists insist that it’s a worsening or even a new mental health condition and give them more drugs. People are really bad at correlating things properly. Many of us are so out of tune with our own bodies. I used to be, but not anymore. I dream of the day I am healed and can come back to comfort and encourage everyone here at BB suffering and struggling to see the light. Thanks for this post.

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2016, 11:28:13 pm »

[Buddie]

Leslie,

You are very sweet and a newbie to all this, so I have my arm around you.

You will be fine. It’s a process. Read about the Four Phases in the Post Withdrawal Board. As you move through the process you’ll find similarities to your own experience.

We aren’t in a minority of unfortunate people who are going through withdrawal. We are in the majority of people who took drugs that temporarily altered our brain chemistry. Our internal healing systems will bring us back to homeostasis, a nice even state of balance.

Keep reading and posting your questions and concerns and the other members will respond with comforting words of support.

Love, […]

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 11:33:20 pm »

[Buddie]

Blue skies,

The whole greedy psyche drug money grab, at the expense of unsuspecting patients who are already hurting, is criminal. We are victims and warriors who are contributing to the growing awareness of a threat to the health and safety of mankind. This is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. By suffering publicly on this forum, I guess we are part of the solution.

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Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2016, 11:44:14 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 05, 2016, 05:41:05 pm
Buddies,

We are not the minority.

We are at the very initial stage of a tsunami groundswell, out in the middle of the ocean when it appears as just a tiny ripple on the surface of the water. Look at the growing number of people in the Introductions board who register as new members of BB every single day. Look at the number of “200 guests” who constantly churn through the BB turnstile reading anonymously. These new members and guests feel like crap and they are starting to figure out what’s happening to them. We members are their beacons. Our posts are providing them with knowledge and answers about the drugs they are taking and the dangerous effects they have on their brains. We are not a minority of poor unfortunate souls who are suffering through rare withdrawal symptoms. We are a small part of the MAJORITY of people who take these drugs who have decided to get off them. THAT is one minority we are in. Luckily we found BB and we are brave and honest enough to share our experiences. THAT is another minority we are in.

These drugs catch up with everyone eventually. Sometimes it takes years to hit tolerance if your body has the enzyme to metabolize the drug. But the drugs eventually wreak havoc on everyone who takes them. Eventually everyone downregulates their GABA receptors if they take the drugs up to the point of hitting tolerance. Nobody gets a free pass once they hit tolerance and downregulate their receptors. Nobody. The rollercoaster bar descends automatically on top of our bloated bellies and we are in for the ride of a lifetime.

The rollercoaster ride, thankfully, is not forever. Eventually the car we are in comes to a full and complete stop, the security bar automatically rises, we walk slowly and carefully off the ride and stroll alongside the rest of humanity enjoying the amusement park.

We members of BB who have been at this for awhile are pulling out of this shitshow, while others are just beginning their journeys. Our posts will give them hope that they will get their lives back. I’m going to continue posting to comfort others until I’m healed. I appreciate the companionship and support I receive from my fellow rollercoaster riders every single day.

Thank you BB family,

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In my first taper, I thought that everyone went through hell when coming off benzos.
I read, this, and now defunct forums avidly and feared I would get every symptmom going as I’d been on valium 8yrs, took street benzos, stoppped c/t for five weeks and felt like the odds were against me.

I got two of the symptoms, anxiety and depression.

I got to 0mg with no PAWS

I frightened myself terribly by reading about the sx everyone on here was suffering.

No doubt there are loads of people registering here, realising why they feel like sh1t, and guests who lurk but dont register etc.
That could be down to the recent years influx of new research benzos or bathtub benzos as some call them.
They are legal in many countries, they are in mine, but are being banned.
Many recreational drug users may have been using them, not realising they are just like benzos as theyve never had cause to, but suffering wds on stopping usage, if supply, stock runs out or they run out of money and don’t buy them in the same way they wouldn’t buy thier other drugs when they have no money.

I realised that there are a hell of a lot of people who don’t suffer anywhere near what the poor people on these boards suffer.
I’m not saying the majority get away scott free, but the people who have no bother, or not enough bother to make a post about, just don’t post.
Some people go on and off them a few times before it finally hits them, as the more habits you have to detox from the worse the wds get and if you get none the first, second, or third time around, you might get hit the fourth time, and so on.

I could hav saved myself a lot of worry by reading about people’s symptoms instead of looking at the wider perspective and considering the whole of the population of people who have stopped benzo use or only taken weeks/months to taper, as well as the poor people who get hit with sx.
I’d have been reassured back then, if I knew that not all people suffer like the poor people have on these boards.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 11:49:28 pm by [Buddie] »

There is no such thing as benzo belly yet…

Re: Who has the benzo belly and look more than pregnant?
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2016, 01:41:15 am »

[Buddie]

What is benzo belly?

Re: Who has the benzo belly and look more than pregnant?
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2016, 02:29:57 am »

[Buddie]

For me, benzo belly is a huge belly, like pregnant, i gets bigger with stress, everytime i eat and drink.
I think it is not only gas i there, also fluid. the core muscles get also tight like a spasm. It is very uncomfortable, sometimes i have shortness of breath when i walk. It is also painfull and makes life not great.

Re: Who has the benzo belly and look more than pregnant?
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2016, 02:55:24 am »

[Buddie]

I have had benzo belly on and off.
Some months I can’t close my pants and I look like in about to give birth to twin ponies.
And other times my pants just fall off my behind.

The bloating feeling is really upsetting.

I think in general benzo belly is the accumulated fat around that area , to do with cortisol.
But people who are bloated and swollen also refer to it as benzo belly?

Re: Who has the benzo belly and look more than pregnant?
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2016, 07:21:14 am »

[Buddie]

Yeah, benzo belly… I’ve got it. It does not matter how well I eat or how much I work out. The belly will not reduce. It is maddening.

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Re: Who has the benzo belly and look more than pregnant?
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2016, 02:55:14 pm »

[Buddie]

I’ve had benzo belly for quite a long time. It doesn’t seem that gas causes it for me. I can go to the bathroom fine, but even when my stomach is empty, it feels full. There’s also discomfort there. I noticed yesterday that there was a lessening of discomfort, and my lower back felt better also. It seems that there might be a connection there. I wish it would go away.

Does anyone else have few hunger pangs? I get a hunger pang every once in awhile. I could go 12 hours without eating, and I wouldn’t get a hunger pang. I never know when I’m really hungry. At times I’ve gone too long without eating or haven’t eaten enough. and I start feeling weak. Then I have to eat right away.

Like […], I feel even more full after eating even when eating a small meal.