Benzo Buddies: “Is my doctor insane?” (this is a psychiatric patient wondering if his/her doctor is insane)

Is my doctor insane?
« on: July 29, 2017, 06:45:33 am »


I don’t live in a western country currently, and I went to change my valium from 5mg to 2mg as I’m nearing the end of my taper. After talking with my doc, he told me benzos don’t cause withdrawal. He suggested maybe I’m just hallucinating. I said, “yep, from the withdrawal”. He agreed it’s best I stop taking this medication, but insisted til the end that benzos cannot cause anxiety interdose, and that withdrawal does not occur during cessation. Hahaha just tell me he’s nuts and not me, please.

But Matt Samet admitted abusing illegal drugs and alcohol…

“Over the years, I’ve shredded body and mind with poisons and palliatives, and sweated out the mess: benzos, booze, marijuana, muscle relaxants, opiates, antidepressants, mood stabilizers, anti­psychotics, coffee, sugar, computer games, food, puke, shit, piss, blood.” – Matt Samet, Beauty in the Breakdown

I may have reached a pain specialist by using a book
« on: April 24, 2016, 06:37:30 am »


Hi everyone,
Many of you may be aware of the book “Death Grip” by Matt Stamet from 2013. Anyway I seached “benzodiazepines” on the county library site and it was the only book which came up (and this is a BIG county) but anyway I dove into it and since I was seeing my “pain management” doc for the 2nd time I took it along. He’s a younger guy and had already said he’d never heard of Ashton. His very large and expensive group does NOT ever prescribe benzos which I told him was great on visit #1. However, he is clueless of the masses which are going to be coming to him broken from these things. I just wanted to share that he showed a lot of genuine interest, and will hopefully read the book (I gave him the library slip for the title). This, plus talking my psychiatric nurse practisioner into doing a micro-taper with me, wow I hope to be planting a seed to help many people sometime in the future.

BTW this book has already been mentioned on the archived threads here. Stamet is/was a rock climber, now recovered from benzo hell. His book is fabulous and really digs into the experience of the medical and psychiatric systems and how they sideline us and polydrug us. It’s pretty radical because he did a fast taper so suffered bad protracted w/d. If you’re easily scared or in that spot, maybe not a read for you. Otherwise, great. Recommended for jocks, especially.
Aloha, […]

Maniacs at Benzo Buddies taking psilocybin so they can keep tapering

Psilocybin and MDMA (Psychedelic Drugs) for Psychiatric Disorders
« on: April 16, 2016, 12:11:17 pm »


Novel psychopharmacological therapies for psychiatric disorders: psilocybin and MDMA

“A promising new model of treatment is under investigation in a resurgence of research into use of psychedelic drugs to augment psychotherapy. In this model, the drug is used on one or a few occasions during psychotherapy sessions to overcome obstacles to successful psychotherapy and to catalyse a therapeutic experience. It is theorised that the experience itself, rather than simply the pharmacological effects of the drug, might lead to cure or sustained remission of severe, treatment-refractory psychiatric disorders”.

You can register for free to read the full article.

Re: Psilocybin and MDMA (Psychedelic Drugs) for Psychiatric Disorders
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2016, 12:26:00 pm »


HA! Yeah, been there done that. A few of us here tried microdosing (psilocybin) and YES, it can help with PTSD tremendously by not allowing negative emotion to process within the prefrontal cortex and the amygdala, it doesn’t help directly with the damage caused by the benzos. I actually did have a couple doses stop my waves dead in it’s tracks, it was only a couple times out of many and mostly it wasn’t very pleasant because my GABA receptors couldn’t play their role. During the dose it didn’t really help but it was usually the following days that felt a bit better. I stopped because it was just wearing me out. Did it help at all, in the long run? YES!! When I started, I was having nasty headaches and now they’re gone completely. Doesn’t help with gut damage though. It was an exciting experiment for sure I’m sure you can find the threads on it in here somewhere.

Cult maniacs recommend Ecstasy as benzo withdrawal cure

« on: February 27, 2016, 06:13:36 am »


Well i think that´s is the right section — I really would aprecciate if some of those above clear headed , wise yhat wrote about the “pharmacology”of many things that happens in the brain could Chime´in

So , i remember when i was on a heavy dose of clonazepam , at that time i was already hooked to it, In case of Running out of Pills
i would feel very , very bad
I was out with friends always at that time , thats not the poit — The point is I remember that When i took an ectasy on that time , like – wake up – take the benzos , soon later drop the ecstasy , i would feel fine all day long , I would sleep at night , and on the next day i would feel fine , great , and not needing any benzo , times that lasted 2 days without needing it , My question is why ´s that ? Why i didnt needed to take the benzos on those 2 days , after i took the extasy ? if i was already real hooked to them ?

This happend more then once or twice , i break my head trying to figure out , but i cant , may i have some help ?

« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 05:18:34 pm »



Ty , vallley . I wonder why a drug is not developed from it . SMDH

« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 05:22:58 pm »


The US is actually doing trials on MDMA and ketamine for treatment of different issues. Both are good for benzo withdrawal when used in moderation.

« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2016, 02:01:02 am »


Maybe is time to get some pills 

« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2016, 02:16:42 am »


Quote from: [Buddie] on February 28, 2016, 02:01:02 am
Maybe is time to get some pills

I had an RFA on my thoracic area a couple of weeks ago and was given ketamine. It was amazing how much it relieved sxs. I wouldn’t recommend using it much though due to addiction potential. I would think MDMA to be a little safer. I wish there was a clear cut way to mitigate withdrawal.

Hallucinations 14 months out? That’s NOT in the Ashton Manual!

my kitchen cabinets were warping..
« on: January 07, 2016, 11:39:46 pm »


I am 14 months out, and I have had a variety of symptoms, but the warping object one I have never had until tonight. I went into the kitchen to make some tea and suddenly the cabinets began warping in and out, side to side. I felt a bit woozy also and had to hurry to sit down. Why am I just now getting this symptom? Shouldn’t I have gotten this while I was in acute? Can brand new symptoms crop up like this? My ears are clicking too when I swallow.

Thanks to anyone who can shed light on this for me.


Two Advil = cult panic

advil set back
« on: December 29, 2015, 06:15:01 am »


Is it possible that 2 advil could have brought this acid burning and brain buzzing back full force ? I’m screaming in hell. I have not had this,degree of burning in months nor anY brain symptoms. I’m terrified I set myself up for months more of this or years. How is thjs even possible? I can’t continue on like this. I’m in literal hell on earth!!! Every single nerve ending is torched!!!!

Re: advil set back
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 07:59:27 am »


I don’t think so…I take advil and never have this happen but we are all different.

Re: advil set back
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 03:16:22 pm »


Some people can handle NSAIDS. I’m not one of them. The one thing I’ve found out about taking other pharma drugs during w/d is that they tend to enhance some of the side effects of benzo w/d and vice versa.

I would stop taking the Advil altogether if I were you. I think this is just a temporary setback. Just hang in there, and you’ll stabilize.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. Hugs to you!! :smitten:

Death by brainwashing: Is a doctor involved? Help!

Thunderstorm in the head
« on: December 28, 2015, 01:21:42 pm »


I am having an awful time and I would really like to know, if anybody has experienced something like this:

After a dramatic life event I had what felt like a nervous breakdown and ever since then I have

– the feeling of having a thunderstorm in my brain
– thoughts are so LOUD and completely chaotic
– “movies” playing in the head
pictures come to mind all the time
– cannot tolerate ANY kind of stress
extreme paranoia (I am even afraid of my father)
– anxiety over the top non stop
feeling psychotic
– terrible knocking in my head all the time

And even the smallest things (EVERYTHING that makes me feel that I HAVE to do it) give me such a panic and the feeling of having another nervous breakdown NOW. I need three weeks to calm down again after something that “stressed” me (ridiculous things cause there is not really much going on here). I have the feeling that I stuck in something after the nervous breakdown, which is already 4 months ago now. It feels like I will just never come out of that.

Please, has anybody experienced a dramatic life event during wd or had a nervous breakdown? How did you handle that? I feel I have to go to a doctor soon if it will not get better SOON cause I don`t know how to handle it anymore. I cannot relax anymore at all. And that knocking in my head is driving me so crazy and really feels scary.

If anybody had similar experiences, please tell me.
Thank you all.

Re: Thunderstorm in the head
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2015, 08:20:58 pm »


I feel like that all the time. Never feel relaxed and peaceful. Every thought brings a jolt of adrenalin. Every situation is stressful and causes my heart to pound. Can’t enjoy anything and don’t know what to do with myself. Can this really be withdrawal?

“I’m not a drug seeker”

You guys want to know how much I’m taking? It’s 2mg twice a day. Is that a crime? Is that against nature? To try to relax in your life?

I have valid prescriptions. I have valid evidence that I am not a drug addict. I have been taking these medications since 2010.

I have valid prescription! I am valid okay?

I have actual evidence to prove that I’m not selling them. Who the fuck doesn’t sell Ativan – especially when I need it?
Stop fucking around.

They wanted to inject Abilify into me. 

Homeopathy conference ends in chaos after delegates take hallucinogenic drug

An alternative medicine conference has ended in chaos in Germany after dozens of delegates took a LSD-like drug and started suffering from hallucinations.

Broadcaster NDR described the 29 men and women “staggering around, rolling in a meadow, talking gibberish and suffering severe cramps”.

The group of “Heilpraktikers” was discovered at the hotel where they held their conference in the town of Handeloh, south of Hamburg, on Friday. More than 150 medical staff, ambulances and police descended on the scene and took the raving delegates to hospital.

The patients, aged between 24 and 56, were found suffering from delusions, breathing problems, racing hearts and cramps, with some in a serious condition, Deutsche Welle reported.

Tests on their blood and urine revealed they had all taken hallucinogenic drug 2C-E, which is known as Aquarust in Germany and has been illegal there since the end of last year.

No one recovered sufficiently to be interviewed by police until Monday, a spokesperson said.

Torsten Passie, a member of the German government’s expert commission for narcotics, told NDR: “It must have been a multiple overdose. That does not support the view that the people concerned took the hallucinogen knowingly. One has to assume that people were not told about the substance, its effects and risks before taking it.”

Police are reportedly looking into possibilities including the drug being taken as a joint experiment, or it being furtively given to conference participants as a prank.

No arrests have yet been made as the investigation continues into a possible violation of Germany’s Narcotics Act.

The Association of German Healing Practitioners (VDH), which represents homeopaths as well as other naturopaths, quickly distanced itself from the embarrassment.

In a statement, it said none of its representatives took hallucinogens during the “incident” in Handeloh.

“The organisers of this obscure conference are unknown to us and such events will not be tolerated by our Association,” a spokesperson said.

“Unfortunately, the conference in Handeloh has severely damaged the image of the alternative medicine profession…and we have clarified that such acts are not in the spirit of natural therapy, and contradict our values both morally and legally. The Association of German Healing Practitioners (Heilpraktikers) detests such misdemeanors.”

The British Government’s drug advisory service, Frank, describes 2C-E as a psychedelic and hallucinogenic stimulant that has effects “somewhere between ecstasy and LSD”.

Anyone taking it experiences a buzz and feeling of being “alive and in tune with their surroundings”, their colours and smells.

It can also cause hallucinations, sexual arousal, hypersensitivity and other effects that become “more intense and uncontrollable” with higher doses.

The drug is classed as relatively new by Frank and not widely available in the UK, but is illegal as part of the phenethylamine family as a class A drug.


Have just done a rapid detox
« on: May 19, 2013, 06:49:32 am »

[Name hidden]

From 100-150mg of Valium a day (plus stacks of painkillers and alcohol.)

Wow. Feeling awful. I was in there for two weeks and they dropped me down so fast. I had a couple of really bad days in the hospital but its now that I am home (stayed 2 weeks in detox) that the symptoms are really kicking in. I knew it would
Be like this as I have attempted to quit cold turkey before and couldn’t handle it so started drinking heavily and taking painkillers which just led me back to using Valium again.

I used to take a handful in the morning then bump it all day and night by snorting more.

My symptoms are :

Thee world is swimming
Feel depersonalised
Sense of unreality
Restless legs and well, restless everythjbg.
Random twitches and spasms in my body evey 20 seconds or so
Feel like everything under my skin is buzzing and sometimes burning
I have no emotions
Dilated pupils
Brain zaps
Headaches that I know only Valium will take away
Finding it hard to sleep and never feel restless
Constant tooth grinding for the last 5 days
Leg cramps
I get this numb, nearly like I’m going blind behind my eyes
Tremors and shaking

I’m sure there’s more.

This is awful!!!! I can’t handle it. My hubby has to go back to work tomorrow and I have to look after our 5 kids.

Re: Have just done a rapid detox
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 11:25:33 am »

[Name hidden]

Do you still have medical guidance and have you been told what to expect after those two weeks you stayed in detox?It all seems like ‘normal’ symptoms but if I were you I would seek medical help. Good luck!

Re: Have just done a rapid detox
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2013, 12:07:18 pm »

[Name hidden]

No. I live in the country and the doctors here have said they don’t know much about Benzos. Also, I asked so many times at the hospital in the city about the coming weeks and none of them were willing to have a bar of the fact that symtoms can go on for along time after, and infact only really start at the 2 week mark sometimes.

From what I read, it is ‘normal’ but I just feel so terrible and I can’t function. I have 5 kids to look after 

Re: Have just done a rapid detox
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2013, 02:36:40 pm »

[Name hidden]

I feel for ya […].

I came off Vicodin, alcohol, soma, ambien and finally xanax.

BUT I did them one at a time over a couple of years. The benzo
was last and definitely the hardest.

To do it all at once in 2 weeks is nothing short of sock treatment.

I only have a few minor symptoms left and doing the best I have in years.

Best wishes and hang in there.