Without realizing it, member describes Benzo Buddies (as a cult)

Re: Titration, Patents, and Fantastical Claims
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2019, 05:54:48 am »

[Buddie]

The practice of granting secret, esoteric wisdom that is accessible only to the elect through loyalty to a charismatic but flawed figure who dispenses their occult knowledge through personal revelatory insight while shunning and then casting out members of the group who do not practice exact adherence to a set of seemingly arbitrary dictates while still accruing a devoted coterie of followers, may or may not be applicable to this person, but it sure seems like the attributes one would ascribe to a cult.

We need a method (or probably many methods) of healing that is public and reproducible. That is one of the goals of working together. Perhaps one day a Benzo-savior will appear before us, ready to bath our minds in the waters of true healing, and we will all be:

“remade in the way that trees are are new,
made new again, when their leaves are new,
pure and ready to ascend to the stars.”

But until then, I feel like there is a lot of real work to do.

Benzo Buddies targets famous psychologist Jordan Peterson for cult recruitment (N.B.: Scientology also routinely targets celebrities for cult recruitment)

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2019, 07:31:36 pm »

[Buddie]

maybe this would be a good time to reach out to her? I didn’t care right now about her meat diet. Her father could be goin through what we are going through. They have HUGE platforms. I suggest each of us send her a message wishing him health, sharing some of our story linking to Benzobuddies, , emphasizing the slow taper, and maybe linking to the Ashton manual. His politics and her beliefs are of no concern to me, just as I don’t “care” what any of yours are (in terms of my hope for your healing).

You could do this because it COULD help our cause, or else because it could help a fellow sufferer. Just a thought.

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2019, 09:31:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Here is the email I sent to Dr. Peterson’s daughter’s public email:

Mikhaila,

I’m so very sorry that you are dealing with your father’s klonopin issue, and so soon after your mother’s illness. I too am dependent on klonopin and I am working to get free. I took them as my doctor prescribed and was shocked to find I could not quit. Unfortunately most rehab centers believe in rapid taper, where you are quickly taken off the drug, often with other harmful drugs added to the mix.

This rarely works and often leads to long term damage.

The only safe way to heal from physical dependence (which is very different than addiction) is to slowly taper down. Addiction is a craving and can possibly be overcome by willpower, dependence is physiological and can happen with klonopin in as little as 4 weeks. It doesnÂ’t matter if it was used as prescribed or not. The dependency issue is the same.

Tapering, the slow reduction of the drug over months, is the only way to safely get through this without causing further (and perhaps permanent damage).

I would refer you to the best manual on benzo withdrawal, the Ashton Manual.

https://benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

The webpage is a little old fashioned but the information is critical.

Also, the best support group, with people who can supply tapering schedules, advice, info on supplements and drugs to avoid, etc is:

http://www.benzobuddies.org

Please reach out for help, quitting a benzo is not like quitting any other drug on earth.

I’m here if you have any questions.

Random cult comments from Facebook

Neomycin Polymyxin B ear drops have destroyed my life

I ate a ton of junk food in December and my symptoms got much worse
Today the kitchen is cleaned of junk food and I’m eating clean again

I have not left this house in over two years now
One try around the block that was it

My brain is burning me like hot chili pepper like fire

Keep fighting warrior

Make sure there is NO ADDED FLUORIDE
Most psychiatric drugs contain high amounts of fluoride
This calcifies the pineal gland and impairs cognitive functioning

Facebook benzo group: Ashton advises people not to eat honey or salmon

Can anyone explain why Ashton advises not to eat honey or salmon in withdrawal?

This getting crazy what we can and can’t eat… I’m seeing so many people who are scared to eat.

People should obviously avoid MSG and food with alcohol, but it’s sad how scared folks are. Even if food does make people feel bad its not damaging anyone further, it’s just a set back and will resolve in a few days or so… it’s hard for people to remember that when they feel so bad. It took me 10 months to stop freaking out about it too.

I agree with you, if we listen to everyone we would not eat or drink anything.

Salmon messes me up bad!!!

CULT BEGS QUEEN TO RECOGNIZE ASHTON

Petition to UK Govt nominating Prof Heather Ashton to be recognised by Queen
« on: December 20, 2018, 05:24:15 pm »

[Buddie]

I very much hope that many people here will sign this petition. I am sure many of us would like to see Prof Heather Ashton honoured by the Queen in recognition of her work for the victims of benzodiazepines.

https://www.change.org/p/the-honours-and-appointment-secretariat-professor-heather-ashton-the-true-angel-of-the-north-to-be-honoured-by-the-uk-government

Thank you very much in advance.

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The signatories to this petition want to see Prof Ashton honoured for her selfless work supporting those effected by benzodiazepines and other addictive substances and drugs. A direct request to Her Majesty’s Government to honour Prof Ashton is in progress. This petition has been started by a small group of dedicated activists and supporters of campaigns to raise awareness of the affects of over prescription of all psychiatric drugs. Their aims are to ensure health organisations such as Public Health England revise their guidelines for the use of these drugs to medicine and psychiatry to avoid further patient suffering in the future.

https://www.change.org/p/the-honours-and-appointment-secretariat-professor-heather-ashton-the-true-angel-of-the-north-to-be-honoured-by-the-uk-government

Zero scientific evidence benzo kindling exists

From Wikipedia: “Repeated benzodiazepine withdrawal episodes may result in similar neuronal kindling as that seen after repeated withdrawal episodes from alcohol, with resultant increased neuro-excitability. The glutamate system is believed to play an important role in this kindling phenomenon with AMPA receptors which are a subtype of glutamate receptors being altered by repeated withdrawals from benzodiazepines. The changes which occur after withdrawal in AMPA receptors in animals have been found in regions of the brain which govern anxiety and seizure threshold; thus kindling may result in increased severity of anxiety and a lowered seizure threshold during repeated withdrawal. Changes in the glutamate system and GABA system may play an important role at different time points during benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome.[6]

Cult hero Heather Ashton only treated slightly over 300 people in 12 years

The following quote is taken from chapter one of her manual:

“For twelve years (1982-1994) I ran a Benzodiazepine Withdrawal Clinic for people wanting to come off their tranquillisers and sleeping pills. Much of what I know about this subject was taught to me by those brave and long-suffering men and women. By listening to the histories of over 300 ‘patients’ and by closely following their progress (week-by-week and sometimes day-by-day), I gradually learned what long-term benzodiazepine use and subsequent withdrawal entails.”

https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha01.htm