Anti-psychiatry maniacs at Benzo Buddies play doctor, tell crazy woman to take magnesium tablet, forget fact she can’t feel her head or arms

Feeling insane
« on: December 10, 2017, 06:07:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Hey guys

Just need some help. Just feeling nuts. Like I can barely write this message. I feel zero connection with myself or reality. My intrusive thoughts of regret, fear and self loathing won’t stop!!! I can’t look in the mirror because it triggers obsessive thoughts about appearance and aging.

The physical stuff is bad enough, but this mental stuff will not stop!!!!

Starting to think this is NOT withdraw!!

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Feeling insane
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2017, 06:23:36 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m thinking this is not withdrawal either. I dont feel my arms and head, I feel extremely weak. I cant do anything, i’m Just afraid of dying.

Take care […], i’m here if you wanna talk about withdrawal or anything else if you’re borred

Re: Feeling insane
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2017, 06:29:37 pm »

[Buddie]

Try a tablet of magnesium, 250 mg. It will make you drowsy and take the edge off. It works on the GABA, which is what is going on in your brain. The magnesium won’t hurt you at that dosage, and it will help you relax.

Best wishes. I’m not a doctor, but just one-quarter of a tablet works for me

Re: Feeling insane
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2017, 07:59:43 pm »

[Buddie]

[…],
Thanks and sorry you’re suffering. I know it’s probably withdraw. It’s just SO strange.

Julianna,
I have not tried magnesium, but may give it a try.

Praying for healing or windows for all of us!! 🙂

Re: Feeling insane
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2017, 09:57:26 pm »

[Buddie]

I know what you mean […]. I look in the mirror and have lost most of my hair and my skin is so dry and oily all th time. I’m hurting with strange anxiety in my chest and intense pain. It’s such a shit show of emotions and then often no emotions. I really have my doubts this is withdrawl as well today. Hurting all around

Ashton tapers cause turkey neck

I have aged drastically!
« on: December 08, 2017, 10:51:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Struggling. Seems like I have aged 20 years in the past 6 months. Wrinkles galore, turkey neck, gaunt and pale. It’s really scary. I can’t handle looking at myself. So disturbing!! It this withdraw? Am I seeing a distorted view of myself and exaggerating every line?

Feel horrible and ill constantly. Weak and tired. Does this get better? Will we look and feel healthy and younger again? Is this permanent?

Thoughts are welcome!

Re: I have aged drastically!
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2017, 11:06:19 pm »

[Buddie]

I can’t say if it gets better or not, but I don’t recognize myself anymore either, so you’re not alone buddy.

Kooky Monday: “Benzo withdrawal causes acne”

Acne breakouts during rapid taper
« on: April 03, 2017, 12:42:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi buddies,
I’m 2 months in on a forced rapid taper of valium & have 2 more months to go before I hit 0. I have suffered from acne since I was about 13 years old~it started out as cystic acne & has unfortunately left a lot of scarring. It continued throughout my 20’s then started clearing up when I was about 32. Before I started my taper I was having some hormonal issues & my acne resurfaced~but this time as mainly very oily skin, blackheads, & a smattering of pimples around that time of the month. However, about 5 weeks into my taper my skin started to get extremely oily & I started getting lots of pimples. Yesterday a cyst surfaced on my chin ? I haven’t had cystic acne since I was a teenager! It’s so embarrassing. Does anyone know if benzo withdrawal & acne are related? My guess is that since the withdrawal symptoms pretty much encompass every part of our bodies, I wouldn’t be surprised if it messes with our hormones as well. Has anyone else experienced this symptom? & when will it go away? I have enough to worry about what with all the symptoms I’m already having that cystic acne is the LAST thing I need! Thank you to everyone in advance & I hope everyone has a good start to the week ?

Ashton tapers cause female baldness

Hair loss/thinning
« on: February 25, 2017, 09:19:27 am »

[Buddie]

Did anyone have massive thinning or hair loss possibly stress related? I’m around months off Klonopin and I’m very young. This thinning is so depressing 

Benzo class action lawsuit dreamers keep banging their heads against the wall

Class Action Lawsuit-Please read
« on: July 15, 2016, 02:45:21 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello everyone,
I am a member of a FB Benzodiazapine Legal board. Evidentally there is a Law firm called Sokolaw Law Firm that is taking intakes from people that have been harmed from Benzodiazapines. I just called and did an intake giving them a description of my physical, mental,and financial suffering/losses that I have sustained. Their phone number is 1-800-568-4832 or 1-866-444-9876. They are also working with Co-Councils in Canada and other counties.You may call them if you live outside of the U.S. Please call and tell them your story.Tell them that you are a new caller and are requesting an intake questionnaire. We need to stand in solidarity.
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Cult superstar Perseverance called to account for fear-mongering

PERSEVERANCE: WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN YOUR POSTS?
« on: July 15, 2016, 02:05:25 pm »

[Buddie]

Assuming these posts aren’t a cut & paste patchwork of various research data obtained from the many resources that exist in cyberspace, I do admire you and appreciate the time and painstaking analysis involved in contributing to the BB.org information collective…

…unfortunately, I find the essence of many posts to be discouraging, disheartening, and offering little to no hope to those severely debilitated and crippled from the hellacious symptomatology of iatrogenic illness, as it exists in benzodiazepine withdrawal.

Words such as “permanent;” “irreversible;” and “learning deficit,” inspire hopelessness, fear, and a deep-seated sense of despair and anguish that isn’t easily resolved or relinquished; in fact, often thrusting the reader into a downward spiral, deeper into the abyss.

The scholarly, didactic verbiage that is necessary and inseparable from professional clinical trial and research writing format, further confuses and exacerbates the reader’s fragile psychological state.

For example:
“In rats given benzodiazepines chronically, the common α 1 γ2 sub-units are down-regulated, while rarer sub-units are elevated proportionately (Holt et al, 1999). It is suggested that transcription of the Gene cluster on Chromosome 5 (which encodes for α1 β2 γ2 sub-units) is inhibited on chronic benzodiazepine administration, while the transcription of the Gene cluster on Chromosome 15 is upregulated (Holt et al, 1999). In certain brain regions, the Chromosome-5-encoded receptor sub-unit proteins are replaced by those encoded in Chromosome 15, which show less sensitivity.” (4)

This excerpt is quite esoteric in nature and would require the highest level of comprehension and routine familiarity found mostly in researchers with PhD’s (not practitioners).

The one thing I’ve learned in neurology is that few things are conclusive or certain. BWS is severely under-researched and much is not fully understood by the medical community.

One question I continually ask myself since joining BB.org is, “How many people have I inadvertently hurt through bad advice?”

If for every 500 I helped, but hurt 1, I would cease to interact any further, simply because it’s not my call to make in weighing human wellness, health, and life.

Ashton tapers cause melting face

Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« on: June 07, 2016, 02:52:54 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello everyone:

I don’t know if right place to post and i hesitate to do so but I’ve had severe physical symptoms and am looking to see if anyone else has experienced this where it has gone away or at least gotten better…. the ones most distressing and pure torture and where I […] can’t do this anymore are:

Muscle contractions and spasms in forehead …above eyebrows and in between eyebrows….. You can visibly see the muscles move and go up and down back and forth…. Pure pure utter torment ( the worst pain you can imagine)

Eyes involuntarily close shut and squeeze and jerk for seconds moments at a time

Nerves underneath left eye especially, jump upwards, shake ,vibrate and pull and cramp like crazy (and also inside of eye) sometimes staying in a locked position

Jaw involuntarily jerks back and forth from left to right; teeth grinding into each other, sometimes clenches really tight

The muscles in my lips will contract and pull from left to right and also tick …sometimes they will spasm where the muscles in my my lips are making my mouth pull all the way to the left
The muscles in my bottom lip will actually pull my bottom lip inside out and downwards and will pull and contract and vibrate

Sometimes its so severe on my left side that the forehead eyes jaw and mouth will all contract at once..TORTURE and pain.

I actually have to wear tape on my face to minimize the movement and pain

My chin also spasms up and down

These are sobad at times I have to put athletic like tape under my eyes and forehead to minimize the pain.and movement.

None of my mouth movements are so much as grimacing as they are more like muscles […] spasming and contracting out of control….

I am so desperate for encouragement as I can no longer bear it….. As you can imagine I have been housebound for 14 months …..I could never go out in public this way…. It is hideous…

The hopelessness and despair are off the charts…. I have the most severe health anxiety a person could ever have….my heart constantly feels like its going to jump out of my chest

I wish I had the ability to be of more encouragement and help to others because that is exactly what I would be doing but I can’t even help myself… I feel so alone with all of this…

If someone can be kind enough to give me some hope and encouragement or ideas of what I could to. I rarely if ever get relief….. I am on the verge of having a breakdown from all the symptoms…….
This has devestated my life…. I can’t sustain this…

thank you to anyone who has read and can sympathize…..

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2016, 03:24:01 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi, I too had many strange and disturbing muscle symptoms. These will go away once you’re off and well into healing. This is from the Ashton Manual:

Benzodiazepines are efficient muscle relaxants and are used clinically for spastic conditions ranging from spinal cord disease or injury to the excruciating muscle spasms of tetanus or rabies. It is therefore not surprising that their discontinuation after long-term use is associated with a rebound increase in muscle tension. This rebound accounts for many of the symptoms observed in benzodiazepine withdrawal. Muscle stiffness affecting the limbs, back, neck and jaw are commonly reported, and the constant muscle tension probably accounts for the muscle pains which have a similar distribution. Headaches are usually of the “tension headache” type, due to contraction of muscles at the back of the neck, scalp and forehead – often described as a “tight band around the head”. Pain in the jaw and teeth is probably due to involuntary jaw clenching, which often occurs unconsciously during sleep.

At the same time, the nerves to the muscles are hyperexcitable, leading to tremor, tics, jerks, spasm and twitching, and jumping at the smallest stimulus. All this constant activity contributes to a feeling of fatigue and weakness (“jelly-legs”). In addition, the muscles, especially the small muscles of the eye, are not well co-ordinated, which may lead to blurred or double vision or even eyelid spasms (blepharospasm).

None of these symptoms is harmful, and they need not be a cause of worry once they are understood. The muscle pain and stiffness is actually little different from what is regarded as normal after an unaccustomed bout of exercise, and would be positively expected, even by a well-trained athlete, after running a marathon.

There are many measures that will alleviate these symptoms, such as muscle stretching exercises as taught in most gyms, moderate exercise, hot baths, massage and general relaxation exercises. Such measures may give only temporary relief at first, but if practised regularly can speed the recovery of normal muscle tone – which will eventually occur spontaneously.

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2016, 03:39:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Bless your heart […] for responding….. I truly mean it from the core of my being….I didn’t think anyone would because normally people don’t respond to my symptoms which is why I usually don’t post them… It […] creates more fear from the lack of responses…. I keep thinking someone somewhere would be able to give me a life raft or […] the tiniest glimmer of hope…

Because this is my second time around my despair has overtaken me……

Thank you […]…

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2016, 04:14:49 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone else please? any words of encouragement would be so appreciated…. Please keep me going….

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2016, 04:23:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Hey there. I’m very new to this however, I have had some of the issues you’re talking about in your post. You’re soooooo not alone. I had a pretty traumatic experience as well, and lets say it still affects me every minute of every day.

Here’s what has helped take that ‘edge’ off. My spouse got me some lavender bath salts. Put them in the tub, sat me down in the tub, and turned the water on as warm as I could tolerate. I soaked for over 2 hours. I was doing this a couple times a day. […] breathing deep while soaking. Like really deep. I was trying to push my belly out of the water deep breathing.

It didn’t ‘cure’ anything, but it really did take that final ‘edge’ off and really helped. It kept me focused on breathing and staying still and it felt good. Again, i’m super new here, and new to all these issues, but when i’m at that ‘point’, i do the bath thing, and it keeps me ‘afloat’ for a good solid hour or 2. Hang in there.

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2016, 04:35:06 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 07, 2016, 04:23:59 pm
Hey there. I’m very new to this however, I have had some of the issues you’re talking about in your post. You’re soooooo not alone. I had a pretty traumatic experience as well, and lets say it still affects me every minute of every day.

Here’s what has helped take that ‘edge’ off. My spouse got me some lavender bath salts. Put them in the tub, sat me down in the tub, and turned the water on as warm as I could tolerate. I soaked for over 2 hours. I was doing this a couple times a day. […] breathing deep while soaking. Like really deep. I was trying to push my belly out of the water deep breathing.

It didn’t ‘cure’ anything, but it really did take that final ‘edge’ off and really helped. It kept me focused on breathing and staying still and it felt good. Again, i’m super new here, and new to all these issues, but when i’m at that ‘point’, i do the bath thing, and it keeps me ‘afloat’ for a good solid hour or 2. Hang in there.

Oh my gosh! You mean you’ve experienced some of these symptoms?!?! Thank you for the bath tip so much…. I’m […] feeling I can’t endure no matter what I tried because it feels so permanent and its been going on so long….

If you don’t mind me asking when did it start and for how long….. I’m crying so much right now because someone responded to me.. Thank you […]……

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2016, 04:45:10 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on June 07, 2016, 04:35:06 pm
If you don’t mind me asking when did it start and for how long….. I’m crying so much right now because someone responded to me.. Thank you […]……

Honestly the, what I called ticks, lasted a few weeks. It wasn’t fun. I thought I was literally going insane, and that I had caused permanent damage. The majority of the ticks faded with time, but I still have one… One that more bugs me rather than hurts or makes me feel crummy. My ear drum feels like it’s constantly popping in and out at such a slow pace, that i can literally fell it popping like a muscle twitch. Geez it’s annoying. I’ll pray for ya that this’ll clear up. I found solace that with time, some of my symptoms faded. Some are still roaring… but none of the symptoms you posted about up there are still persistent in me at least.

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2016, 05:11:53 pm »

[Buddie]

I do empathize with you. The aim must be difficult. Even though I don’t have those symptoms I do have bad amxiety. I did have jolts through my body and occasional
twitches but not so much anymore. For me the insomnia makes me anxious and dizzy so sometimes I loose my balance but haven’t fallen yet. You will get through this. The brain needs time to heal itself. You will triumph.

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2016, 05:15:04 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello pbh,
I am so sorry to hear about your symptoms. I’ve had a real problem with grinding my teeth. I almost always chew a toothpick and that helps. Sugarless gum also helps. Maybe that would help your jaw clinching and teeth grinding? Maybe try massaging your face, temples with your fingers gently. I’ve used a hot rice pack on my forehead for relaxation. You will get better. I […] wanted to respond even if I am of little help. […] to offer some encouragement. ??

Re: Does anyone have or had this? Please Respond...so Desperate
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2016, 05:38:56 pm »

[Buddie]

Every single person that has responded thank you so much and you have helped me….. I appreciate it very much…..The fear is still so ever present that this is permanent….. My facial symptoms have increased slowly over time and I’ve been dealing with this now for 15 months (maybe it is time to see a real doctor, not a Benzo Buddies doctor – editor) at varying intensities at different times of the day….

That is why I become so frantic and utterly hopeless…..dealing with this for so long and going thru another taper is more then I can bear…. I don’t think I can survive ….

“Stay away from the hair dyes!”

hair dyed
« on: April 06, 2016, 02:49:37 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi

I haven’t dyed my roots since my setback..im scared of a reaction. Bt my grey roots are not looking brilliant.

Does anyone react to hair dye-does it reve you or send you in a wave?

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Re: hair dyed
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 02:26:38 am »

[Buddie]

[…],

I was a hair stylist for 10 years before this withdrawl…
Stay away from the hair dyes! My biggest mistake in this whole process and biggest set backs were from hair chemicals. Honestly, if you wouldn’t eat it don’t put it on your skin or smell it.
I also painted my bedroom. We bought a new house through out this withdrawl and I was so excited to paint it, redo some of the rooms ect…. Huge mistake! Biggest wave I have had…..
And believe me seeing friends and family now expecially after being a stylist I was always so put together, ughhhh…..

Re: hair dyed
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 02:44:44 am »

[Buddie]

I’ve had my highlights done during my taper at least twice and it hasn’t seemed to affect me. I go to an Aveda salon and they use more natural products (although I’m sure nothing is perfect). They are pricey but it’s worth it to me to be using more natural products and whatever they use seems less harsh on my hair and the smell is definitely not as overwhelming as what they use in other salons.

Re: hair dyed
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 09:56:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes if you need to color highlights or lowlights wrapped in foil and not a tube of color sitting on your scalp for an hour or half hour is definitely better…
I have always been sensitive to chemical though… Way back a dozen yrs ago cleaners like pine sol ect… If I cleaned with them I would get headaches ect…

Amazing real photo of hair loss due to benzo withdrawal (adults only please)