Man who can’t remember why he started Klonopin given Lithium, Pregabalin, Depakote, Risperdal, Latuda, Invega, Nortriptyline, Remeron sandwich

My FINAL Klonopin Taper & Use of Benzos
« on: August 08, 2021, 03:13:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi All,

I wanted to share my current experience on my taper, as well as other plans I’m considering.

FIRST, SOME BACKGROUND INFO:
– 50 yrs old
– Suffered from anxiety my whole life
I can’t even remember which quack put me on Klonopin at this point, but it’s finally time to end this nightmare. I’ve been on and off it for 20+ years.
– I never suffered from depression in my life until about 3 years ago. I’ve currently been in a MDD episode for a year and a half – yes, you read that correctly. And on work leave for the second time in one year.
– Have been diagnosed with GAD, MDD and CPTSD
This go around with another pill pusher shrink, I’ve been given Lithium, Pregabalin, Depakote, Risperdal, Latuda, Invega, Nortriptyline, and Remeron. NONE of these did anything for this MDD episode.
I am now off every medication they gave me, except Klonopin of course, and I am actually feeling better than when I was on them.
The only remaining medication I take is Prazosin at night, which is very helpful for nightmares, but I don’t consider this a neuro drug, because it’s not, so I’m comfortable still taking that.
– My goal is to never take a neuro medication again. The majority of neuroscientists, shrinks, etc. will readily admit they STILL know very little about the brain. So, how in the world can Pharma companies and doctors responsibly dole out drugs to help when they admittedly know very little about how the brain works?? Hence, no more neuro meds for me again if humanly possible.

MY CURRENT PLAN FOR KLONOPIN TAPER / DETOX:
– Beginning dose: 2mg Klonopin daily. 1mg morning | 1mg night. I’ve been on this level on & off for a long time. I’ve taped to 1mg with no problems at all. I’ve tapered completely off Klonopin before with very little symptoms along the way. I can’t remember why I started again (thank you benzo memory killer), but I think it coincided with a highly stressful job I just started, so it’s difficult to tell whether the symptoms were withdrawal or situational.
– First step: 1mg morning | 3/4mg night for 21 days. Some symptoms, but very manageable
– Second step: 1mg morning | 1/2mg night so far for 5 days. Will hold here and see how it goes. So far, so good.
– Next Steps: Will keep you posted

*Side note: I am seriously considering a Flumanezil-based more rapid detox at The Coleman Institute. I have read very mixed reviews about this, but I am still considering as another slow taper will just not work for me given my leave from work and other factors. Of course, a rapid detox could result in my condition worsening and maybe even causing me to permanently leave my job, but I’m willing to take this chance.

Without Klonopin mental patient reverts to being nuts

Scared of myself
« on: May 28, 2021, 12:31:33 am »

[Buddie]

I’m 6 months Klonopin free and one symptom I can’t shake is being scared of my body and not feeling safe in it. I feel out of touch and out of control. I look at my tattoos and have a panic attack because I can’t just “take them off.” I got the covid vaccine and was in full panic for 24 hours because I couldn’t “take it out” if I wanted to. I’m constantly questioning whether I’m actually alive or not and wondering if I’m dreaming or actually dead. I’m terrified all the time. I had a window for about 2 weeks but have been really stressed at work and am now in this wave. I’m always reading posts on here but I can’t help feeling entirely alone. I’ve lost 40 pounds so far and I’ve convinced myself it’s lymphoma. Any support I can get would be greatly appreciated.

Brutal Ashton taper leaves man unable to walk 16 months post-cessation of drug

Can’t walk. This has never happened WTF?
« on: December 26, 2020, 05:55:01 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi everyone. I hope your holidays were OK. I’m actually just happy that they are over. I don’t know what’s going on with me I have never had this happen in benzo withdrawal. I have had difficulty walking and I’ve had pain in my legs and feet and lower back, but not to the point where I actually cannot walk around the block. I mean I can but it’s so damn painful. I was supposed to help my girlfriend do a photo shoot outdoors today and I couldn’t go because I can’t stand on my feet. My right heel feels like there’s an internal bruise, they’re shooting pains going up my legs from my feet, and my lower back is killing me. I’ve been popping ibuprofen like crazy. I’ve been laying in bed since last night, and they were shooting pains in my legs even when I’m not putting any weight on them. My primary care doctor is great. He tells his patients that he can’t believe he actually has one patient that got off of Clonopin. He’s been practicing for 35 years and said that he has never seen one person successfully get off of it. I called him this morning and he called me back. He says he has no idea what it is. He said that some of the symptoms sound like gout but other ones don’t. I wanted to tell him that I think it’s benzo withdrawal, but I don’t want him to think I’m crazy because that seems to be the look I get when ever I offer that is a solution to my physical pain. I’ve read a lot on here about different messed up physical symptoms that people have, and I’m wondering if this particular group of symptoms is something that someone else’s experience. I usually ride my bike and or walk 3 to 5 miles a day. I can’t even walk around the block without being in extreme pain. I have tried to stay physically active throughout my benzo withdrawal, but I’m stuck at home now in bed. I work and have worked full-time throughout withdrawal, and I have never been bed ridden because of physical symptoms and am terrified that I’m actually getting worse 16 months post taper.
Any insight or encouragement would be much appreciated. I’m stuck in bed all day. Thank you.

Addict starts downing kpins, with a vodka chaser, after taper fails

Confession -- Reinstatement -- I don't know what to do
« on: June 09, 2020, 09:06:09 pm »

[Buddie]

Three days ago, my akathisia, intrusive thoughts, irritability got so bad. It had been just over one month without klonopin. I wanted to celebrate, but the perceputal distortions, dp/dr, and other symptoms were bad too. I literally was afraid of losing control. I had these awful tics — was laying on the floor screaming “F— you” to any car going by. I had strong urges to yell at my wife, tear stuff off shelves, etc. Mind you, **this is not me.** I was never like this before withdrawal.

Long story short, I felt hopeless and desperate, because I can’t put myself at risk of being like this every day. I took some Kpin and dashed it down with vodka (maybe equivalent of 3 shots). I am not even a drinker — I don’t even like alcohol, so this is not a “pattern” mind you — I just needed reprieve from these tics and thoughts until I could figure out a new strategy, because this CT isn’t working. I had terrible panic and tightness all day long, plus ‘mental akathisia,’ unable to escape my own brain. I am afraid for my future. I cannot stay married like this and do this to my family. Well now that was 3 days ago, the withdrawals are going to kick in again. I really went and did it this time. I thought the worst of the acutes would peak by month one but clearly I was wrong. How to taper a med that’s paradoxical? Seems a V crossover is my only chance but my doc won’t do it.

Kook’s healing freaks him out, wants to suffer more

Re: Under .125 Klonopin Club
« Reply #909 on: October 03, 2019, 03:03:32 pm »

Monray60

Bob7, I’ll be curious to read what you find about salt and sleep.

I’m going to read about taurine again.

Have any of you been switched from the TEVA brand .125 orally dissolving to the PAR Pharmaceuticals brand? This may sound strange, but I’m sleeping TOO well with this change and feel like I have up-dosed. Not good! I’d rather have a harder time and know I am reducing my intake of K. than to do better because I have up-dosed.
Thoughts?


10/17: Began taper from 1mg Klonopin, 100 mg gabapentin
5/19: Tapered too quickly near end to .062 Klonopin, stopped Gabapentin
6/19: Up-dosed to .125 Klonopin, 200 gabapentin, given 50 mg Seroquel
8/19: Stopped Seroquel
9/19: .125 klonopin, 125 mg Gabapentin
9/30/19:.125 Klonopin, 100 mg Gabapentin

Benzo Buddies targets famous psychologist Jordan Peterson for cult recruitment (N.B.: Scientology also routinely targets celebrities for cult recruitment)

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2019, 07:31:36 pm »

[Buddie]

maybe this would be a good time to reach out to her? I didn’t care right now about her meat diet. Her father could be goin through what we are going through. They have HUGE platforms. I suggest each of us send her a message wishing him health, sharing some of our story linking to Benzobuddies, , emphasizing the slow taper, and maybe linking to the Ashton manual. His politics and her beliefs are of no concern to me, just as I don’t “care” what any of yours are (in terms of my hope for your healing).

You could do this because it COULD help our cause, or else because it could help a fellow sufferer. Just a thought.

Re: Jordan Peterson is in rehab for Clonazepam
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2019, 09:31:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Here is the email I sent to Dr. Peterson’s daughter’s public email:

Mikhaila,

I’m so very sorry that you are dealing with your father’s klonopin issue, and so soon after your mother’s illness. I too am dependent on klonopin and I am working to get free. I took them as my doctor prescribed and was shocked to find I could not quit. Unfortunately most rehab centers believe in rapid taper, where you are quickly taken off the drug, often with other harmful drugs added to the mix.

This rarely works and often leads to long term damage.

The only safe way to heal from physical dependence (which is very different than addiction) is to slowly taper down. Addiction is a craving and can possibly be overcome by willpower, dependence is physiological and can happen with klonopin in as little as 4 weeks. It doesnÂ’t matter if it was used as prescribed or not. The dependency issue is the same.

Tapering, the slow reduction of the drug over months, is the only way to safely get through this without causing further (and perhaps permanent damage).

I would refer you to the best manual on benzo withdrawal, the Ashton Manual.

https://benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

The webpage is a little old fashioned but the information is critical.

Also, the best support group, with people who can supply tapering schedules, advice, info on supplements and drugs to avoid, etc is:

http://www.benzobuddies.org

Please reach out for help, quitting a benzo is not like quitting any other drug on earth.

I’m here if you have any questions.

Klonopin for 10 days, Benzo Buddies for life

Re: HELP!! Do I need to taper?
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2019, 07:04:41 pm »

RKO

Not trying to scare you but I was only on Klonopin for 10 days and my doctor wouldn’t allow me to do an Ashton taper because I was only on for such a short time.

I was hooked by day 7, unknowingly, when I took half a dose one night and woke up with heart palps. Damn pills nearly killed me when I quit after a rapid taper that was basically a CT.

It’s been over 15 months and I’m nowhere near healed.

I’ve come to realize, however, that I am in the extreme minority. You’ll probably be fine though.

Paxil: 2000-2007
2/08: Adverse reaction to 9 days of Saw Palmetto extract for hair loss (PFS)
Klonopin: .25mg PRN 2/08-7/08
Prozac: 11/08-3/09

Drug free for 9+ years, life was great

4/19: Severe ear infection, temporarily deaf, tinnitus – rx Augmentin

4/26-5/1: Steroid taper pack

4/26-5/5: Rx Klonopin .5mg nightly by ENT for insomnia/tinnitus (heart palps on Day 7 with .25mg, dependent in a week?!)
5/6: Cut to .25 mg (cut 1mg tabs into quarters) – BAD symptoms. Run to GP for help
5/10: Cut to .125mg (per GP advice) – even worse symptoms, bad advice from doc
5/13: Jumped. WAY TOO SOON. HELL. Should’ve reinstated, basically CT. Didn’t have sufficient supply, GP wouldn’t prescribe more. Wrongly assumed short use would be short WD