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I’ve been informed that some of the kooks are filing their FDA complaints multiple times. I’ve taken the liberty to forward the links, of cult members bragging they’ve filed more than once, to the FDA. No need to thank me. 🙂

Benzo Buddies pothead loves grass, “super sad” not to be smoking it anymore, swears Klonopin takes edge off marijuana-induced panic attacks

Re: Can marijuana help through benzo withdrawal?
« Reply #124 on: March 30, 2017, 12:26:47 am »

[Buddie]

Marijuana elevates heart rate and therefore can trigger a panic attack. I was a daily pot smoker and 90 percent of the times I was great except for random bug outs. Klonopin took that edge off. Then when I was tapering in the fall I got massive attacks every time I smoked. My cold turkey was so bad in January I didn’t even bother trying it. I smoked one little hit the other night and my heart went[…]. I hear what you are saying about being hungry prior to smoking and how it can cause some anxiety that’s a real thing. But I don’t think pot is useful for benzo withdrawals. I love marijuana and I’m super sad to not be smoking it anymore. I don’t think it’s harmful, but I’d rather avoid a panic attack or chest discomfort. I may try some edibles at some point. I researched this to death because I so miss smoking it but from everything I’ve read it doesn’t seem conducive to the brain healing post benzos. If you try and it works for you congrats. Let me know how it goes. Lol

“The only thing that helped was Klonopin”

Is this mania?
« on: September 19, 2016, 04:42:22 am »

[Buddie]

2 weeks ago I went to the er because I felt like I was loosing my mind, I felt like adrenaline was cranked through me all day, it was very scary my mind was racing 1 hundred miles an hour, obsessed thoughts, no sleep needed no meds could calm me down, went back on the seroquel for a few days felt a lot better, this all happened when I stopped the buspar and seroquel for a few weeks, I went up on my dose in buspar today same feeling are starting but my seroquel famed it down, is this bipolar mania? Still trying to diagnose me because my anxiety is so bad with mood changes and depression, only thing that helped was klonopin but weont prescribe it I have been off of it a month and a half after tapering, I’m just wondering if my anxiety is so bad from bipolar?

Church of Ashton’s micro-tapering dogma ruins another life

Why withdrawel at all???
« on: April 03, 2016, 10:24:55 pm »

[Buddie]

over the past two years I have gone from Klonopin to valium. Have reduced from 35mg valium to 16.25mg.
1. I lost my job
2. I feel worse with every reduction
3. I’ve lost weight
4. bad physical problems.
5. Isolated myself from the world because i am in a constant state of panic/ depression
6. cannot function. Drive a car, go to the store etc.
Why did I do all this to myself when I probably could have just upped my klonopin and felt ok. I went 18 years of being on it with no problems. Maybe some people just need to take it for life like cholesterol medicine. It seems like everyone on here talks about the horror of withdrawel and ways to do it but no one sais why they did start to taper. Were some of you fine and just didn’t want to take a pill everyday or did you start to have problems with the meds? If so why not try to take more? I’m just trying to figure this out.

Psychiatrists testify new bill would deprive patients from leading normal lives

Benzodiazepines, according to the National Institute of Health’s U.S. National Library of Medicine, are a class of hypnotic drug often used to treat insomnia and anxiety, though long-term daily use can lead to addiction in a tiny minority of patients. Brand-name benzodiazepines include Klonopin, Ativan and Xanax.

Under Rep. Paul McMurtry’s bill (H 4062), the Department of Public Health would be charged with establishing protocols to help patients safely taper off and discontinue their use of benzodiazepines and nonbenzodiazepine hypnotics so that withdrawal is minimized.

Psychiatrists testified that restricting these drugs would deprive many patients of living a normal and productive life.

Testifying against the bill, Tufts Medical Center psychiatrist Dr. Edward Silberman said that the stories patients told Monday were unlike experiences he had in his practice. (Cult watchers note those testifying for the bill were organized to do so by the anti-psychiatry movement, thereby skewing the testimony.)

“I’ve been in academic psychiatry my whole life,” he said. “Maybe I’ve been a little bit sheltered and people do things that I would be horrified to do, such as prescribing benzos or any other medications for vague reasons or insisting that a person stay on them who doesn’t feel well on them. That, I think would be, to coin a phrase, madness on the part of the treater, so I think the problem with legislation of this kind from my point of view is that it tars everything with the same brush.”

Silberman and other psychiatrists expressed concern that the regulations would dissuade doctors from prescribing the medications under appropriate circumstances when they could improve a patient’s life.

Dr. Jerrold Rosenbaum, the chief of psychiatry at Massachusetts General Hospital, said hypnotic drugs are typically not the first line of treatment and an estimated 15 percent of the population “periodically and safely use these medications to manage stress, peaks of anxiety, insomnia.”

Dr. Edward Silberman of Tufts Medical Center: “Benzodiazepines, for the correct patients, can be lifesaving treatments.”

(All Massachusetts elected officials have been contacted and provided primary source evidence (screenshots, html) on the anti-psychiatry movement’s threats to doctors, connections to Scientology, etc. The majority of people promoting this bill are zealots of the anti-psychiatry movement.)

http://wwlp.com/2016/04/04/state-lawmakers-consider-oversight-on-anxiety-and-sleeping-medications/

http://www.statehousenews.com/?login=yes&trial=yes&path=cms/news.aspx&yr=2016&select=2016764

Most who have issues coming off of benzos have other issues i.e. mental illness

Re: Rant : What about not scaring everybody with our own singular experience ?
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 08:10:17 pm »

[Buddie]

I can’t help but think some of the horror stories are people with problems beyond benzo withdrawal.

Re: Rant : What about not scaring everybody with our own singular experience ?
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2016, 08:22:51 pm »

[Buddie]

[…], I did not want to come out and say this, but I think you have nailed it.

Re: Rant : What about not scaring everybody with our own singular experience ?
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 09:28:09 pm »

[Buddie]

[…],[…]. Yes you nailed it! […] and […]. Let’s keep this thread going. […] what you said about it being a numbers game is exactly what my psychiatrist said. Flying back to NY tomorrow and will be changing my game plan. Then I’ll see what happens. Going to trust his opinion. If he’s wrong I’ll slow down. I already feel I could cut every week. But nooooo I might die or be condemned to benzo hell for all eternity Not listening to any one but my body from here on in. Hell, I feel better already. Thanks […]

Raw, naked fear – expressed as a shrill call to censor ideas – that everything at Benzo Buddies is total bullshit fed to them by a deranged, Ashton-worshipping lunatic called Colin…

Re: Rant : What about not scaring everybody with our own singular experience ?
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2016, 08:32:05 am »

[Buddie]

The insinuation that the “horror stories” must have something else wrong with them other than protracted withdrawal isn’t exactly the “positivity” that we’re looking for on BB. It would be quite convenient to conclude this, but it isn’t the case for everyone…please keep in mind that those of us (I am living this, 24 hours a day for three years, with my bedridden partner) who are, indeed, “horror stories” are the very reason that benzo use is like Russian roulette. There are many, many lucky ones, but those who get the bullet shouldn’t written off as simply exceptional cases that must have other “problems.”

I don’t believe anyone on here is going to feel better about their own situation by dismissing others in this way…

More hysteria…

Re: Rant : What about not scaring everybody with our own singular experience ?
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2016, 06:53:19 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on February 16, 2016, 05:46:03 pm
What was said was that “some” of the people here may have other things going on. Not all, most, or the majority. Perhaps “a few”? Many end up on benzos due to underlying psychological problems/illness. I know I did. Maybe, just maybe, a few are dealing with the reemergence of symptoms that had been long held at bay by the benzos . I believe that is what was meant and there is no intent by anyone to diminish anything or anyone.

It would be foolish to deny that underlying issues might contribute to benzo symptoms in some cases but looking around the protracted board I have no reason to believe that anyone there is dealing primarily with a preexisting psychological issue. Most of the symptoms people talk about are classic benzo stuff, and if they did have any of it pre withdrawal it was not of the magnitude they are experiencing now.

So although most of us will acknowledge that there is truth to the idea that some people might have other issues that are complicating things, it is still insulting to hear someone point it out because it essentially means that people are skeptical of what you are experiencing. That’s not a good feeling, especially after you have been dealing with the same debilitating symptoms for a long time and especially hen it comes from people who have been through it themselves who should understand.

Members wonder if drugs they were forced off by cult peer pressure really helped them

Do you think that the drugs really helped you in a way?
« on: January 23, 2016, 10:16:21 pm »

[Buddie]

Who here feels like you didnt really need to take the drugs in the first place and is now suffering unneededly?…. the main reason i went into the hospital and was given the drugs in the first place was bc of my anxiety…but the more i think about it the drugs didnt even really help with my anxiety…i just cant help thinking that the whole drug use was unneeded…..i could have tried other nonmed approaches like cbt?..i think the meds just messed my brain… oops sorry meant to post this in chewing the fat.

Nail biting is more than a bad habit: Experts to classify the addiction as a mental disorder

Millions of people around the world suffer from a self-mutilating and often painful addiction to biting their nails, which can be harder to quit than smoking cigarettes, but is often overlooked as a relatively benign habit.

Medical experts are now taking a closer look at the addiction and have decided to change its classification from a mere habit to a full-fledged obsessive-compulsive disorder.

The American Psychiatric Association is preparing to change the designation of nail biting from not otherwise classified, to obsessive compulsive disorder in its upcoming issue of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, NBC News reported.

Habits that are commonly associated with OCD include repetitive hand-washing and hair-pulling. The disease is characterized by unreasonable thoughts and fears that lead to such repetitive behaviors.

The occasional chewed nail isn’t an indication of the disorder, medical experts assure.

“As with hair pulling and skin picking, nail biting isn’t a disorder unless it is impairing, distressing, and meets a certain clinical level of severity,” Carol Mathews, M.D., a psychiatrist at the University of California, San Francisco, told NBC News. “That is not the vast majority of nail bitters,” she said.

Nail chewing is considered severe when the habit becomes destructive – when it impairs use of the hands or leads to repeated infections. Sometimes a nail-biter’s hands and fingers can become infected, but more often, the habit leads to an increased risk of contracting colds and other illnesses because it encourages the spread of germs from the nails to the lips and mouth.

Nail biters looking to quit their addiction may find they are less inclined to stick their fingers in their mouths if they put lemon juice or hot sauce on their digits. Former nail biters who quit the habit said it also helps to wrap nails in tape or Band-Aids and to keep their hands well-manicured.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2227357/Nail-biting-bad-habit-Experts-classify-addiction-mental-disorder.html