Klonopin eater goes on hate-filled doctor-bashing rant

Is the System evil or ignorant?
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:44:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Is anyone else ANGRY at the doctor who turned you into a drug addict? I submit that most doctors ignorantly believe if patients take their meds as prescribed, there won’t be any issues. Here’s the problem: Your brain doesn’t give a flying f%@$ about US law or what your doctor thinks. All it knows is that it’s regularly been influenced by a powerful psychoactive and it wants more. We’re every bit as much an addict as anyone else, and our addiction can actually kill if you just stop taking it. It also creates the longest and most horrific withdrawal known to man. (I’ve confirmed this with heroin addicts, alcoholics, meth addicts, anyone who has been through a withdrawal). Heroin addicts feel sorry for me! No one is taking responsibility for ruining lives by the million in the name of the almighty dollar.

Pharmaceutical companies send hot girls to doctors offices to persuade them to hand out their drugs. Wtf?! Our society is so brainwashed by the DSM-V, thinking about which acronym fits them because life sucks sometimes for everyone but there has to be something wrong with you. ADHD, OCD, PTSD, GAD, MDD…choose a f@$!ing acronym so you can become a lifetime customer.

We’ve all gone through he’ll because our doctor’s either didn’t know or didn’t care what they were doing. Our society gives so much reverence to doctors…we trust them implicitly because they went to med school. My doctor literally opened Web MD when prescribing my klonopin. They’re not f@$&ING special, they’re human beings just like anyone. They are succeptible to greed and the powers that be are so god damned cocky they don’t even attempt to hide the fact that the people we trust with our health are being bribed by drug companies. Doctors who prescribe things they don’t understand have betrayed the public trust and should be dealt with accordingly. They’re drug dealers…in every sense of the word. We have a war on drugs that imprisons people for smoking a plant while the system were supposed to trust is getting us hooked on the drugs they can profit from.

Anyone who has suffered as I have suffered must surely feel the same injustice. I got out of the military after serving honorably for 6 years…I told my doctor I didn’t feel quite right. Then I was a drug addict. Klonopin took everything in my life. I barely survived it….and that piece of shit probably did the same thing to someone today.

No one should ever go through what I’ve been through. Helping people who are suffering with hope and advise is great, but shouldn’t we be doing something to stop the system that put us here? The average person has no idea what a benzo is…if they tell their doctor they’ve been anxious lately, chances are they’re gonna join our ranks. How do we save those people?

LOL: “I was held hostage by Klonopin”

Held Hostage By A Rx Drug: My Klonopin Nightmare

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/held-hostage-by-a-rx-drug-my-klonopin-nightmare_us_58d9395fe4b06c3d3d3e7018

“I feel naked, mutilated, out of control and entirely in limbo”

Low-dose klonopin taper, psychiatric cocktail, hypersensitivity, irregular reactions, etc.
« on: August 02, 2016, 06:32:20 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi there. My family (historically subject to alcoholism, autism, bipolar disorder, clinical depression, you name it) and I have been trying to properly medicate my depression/mood swings/anxiety since I was just a kid.

After a failed diagnostic trial with Lamictal around age 10, I was put on 25mg Zoloft and 0.25mg Klonopin in middle school: this combination successfully got me through the following 5-6 years. I essentially cold-turkeyed the low dose of Klonopin upon exiting highschool and didn’t notice any effects. Switched from Zoloft to Prozac, which aggravated my mood swings and prompted a switch to Viibryd after a couple months. Varying degrees of depression/hypomania/crippling depression throughout. Had an odd reaction to Viibryd, and was put back on 0.25mg of Klonopin twice daily by my long-time psychiatrist to ease the SSRI withdrawal.

Things worsened rapidly, and after two consecutive, incredibly irrational trials on Lithium and then Seroquel (taking Klonopin and hydroxyzine throughout to ease the insanity of my symptoms) made the decision to get off medication completely and take the naturopathic route. This is after years of treating my chemically frustrated brain medically, mind you.

Started my Klonopin taper with 0.25mg in the morning and then 0.125mg at night. Been at this for about two weeks. My supplements are 5-MTHF (I have the homozygous mutation), GABA, vitamins B & D, and omega-3s. Haven’t noticed their effects, or lack thereof. My withdrawal symptoms include fatigue, confusion, dizziness, blurred vision, general cognitive impairment, body aches, and most importantly, anxiety & panic attacks. I read a little bit about hitting “tolerance” but am otherwise entirely blindsided by my neural reaction to the tapering. I’ve found myself literally cowering in fear half the time. I’m positively hungry to be back on an SSRI, because the past month has been something out of a horror film. For someone who is normally very aware/reflective/fluent, the mental fog that I’ve been subject to feels like paralysis. I am terrified. To make things worse, I’m at a critical nexus in my academic career and am paranoid about sabotaging my progress, capacity, future, etc. because I’ve only just realized how serious my Klonopin withdrawal is. My mental faculties are INCREDIBLY limited, and for someone who’s identified as an scholar since childhood, it’s tearing me apart. Rereading this uncoordinated, poorly written post is almost comedic considering my career as a university academic and publishing success.

All of my previous medications have been tiny doses because of my extreme sensitivity. xxx I have very few resources and am in urgent need of advice, information, and support. Currently, I’m supposed to travel overseas in two days and am wondering if it’s safe to get back on an SSRI to ease my symptomatic (& figurative) paralysis. Please, please, please help.

Benzo Buddies lunatic rages at Roche Pharmaceuticals

I am Fuming right now after a call with Roche pharmaceuticals
« on: June 02, 2016, 07:15:05 pm »

[Buddie]

So I just called Roche Pharmaceuticals, the company that produces/makes Klonopin. I explained to them that I am going to be tapering off Klonopin and wanted some advice. They WOULD NOT help me and could care less when I told them some of the discontinuation effects that klonopin has on people. They told me it was out of their control and they also could not help with a taper plan. I explained to them that my doctor did give me a taper plan that was a little too rapid for me in the past and I am preparing and I just wanted a second opinion before I started my taper. I told them I was calling them for a second opinion since they make the pills and know how the pills are chemically produced. The answer was exactly as the “I’M SORRY, WE CANNOT HELP YOU”. Anyway, if I ever doubted benzobuddies in the past, now I really don’t. You were all right from the beginning. Doctor’s pharmaceutical companies and all the rest of them are completely helpless and useless. I guess it is up to us to be our own doctors and just help our selves and hope for the best. Sorry, I just needed to vent. ROCHE PHARMACEUTICALS are pure evil!!!!!!

Kook claims dozens of symptoms after two months of sporadic Klonopin use

This is why you don't stop Benzos abruptly
« on: January 13, 2016, 06:36:32 pm »

[Buddie]

Sorry if this post is going to ramble. I just wanted to let people know that abrupt discontinuation of a benzodiazepine has real consequences and risks even if it was only used intermittently on low doses . To get an idea of how bad it can be, just look at what I am going through.

On September 11, I stopped using .25 mg of Klonopin. My use of the Klonopin before that was probably 1-3 times a week over the course of 2 months. Since my discontinuation of the drug, I have experienced a lot of symptoms. The physical symptoms have been:

Akathisia / Restless Leg Syndrome
Paresthesia ( Primarily Stabbing and Burning sensations in my feet but other areas of my body as well)
Muscle Twitching and Tremors
Vibration feeling in my chest, head, and thighs
Brutal Insomnia
Ringing in the ears / Tinnitus
Heart Palpitations ( pounding heart, fluttering / probable pvc’s )
Elevated Heart Rate after exercise ( Heart rate stays higher for longer than my normal after exercise )
Jittery feeling after any significant physical exertion ( exercise, going up a lot of stairs, etc.)
Chest Pain
Respiratory Depression
Electric Shock Sensations
Full Body Jerks
Sugar / Alcohol Intolerance

The Mental Symptoms have been:

Anxiety
Depression
Benzo Rage
Suicidal Ideation

BTW, I would like to mention that these symptoms hit me like a bolt out of the blue. 3 days after stopping the drug, these symptoms started up and then I was in hell for a couple of weeks.
I have had some medical testing done regarding the heart palpitations and chest pain ( EKG, blood work to check for possible heart attack, Chest X Ray for cardiac myopathy ) and everything came back ok. I am going to have some more testing done though I have a pretty good suspicion that the chest pain is not cardiac related ( localized not diffuse, pain is associated with movement and manipulation of the area, pain is measured in seconds ).

I am currently over 4 months off the Klonopin and I still am experiencing some physical symptoms ( diminshed paresthesia, heart palpitations, chest pain, akathisia, sugar intolerance, muscle twitching, tinnitus ) but amped up mental symptoms ( high anxiety, anger, depression). All of this is compounded by the fact that I am working in a high stress job and trying to be a good father / husband.

To put it briefly, I was an idiot and stopped using this stuff abruptly. Please don’t do I what I did. You are rolling the dice if you CT and you can end up in a world of hurt like I am or worse ( possibly much worse ). Tapering is hard and tedious but you will likely save yourself a lot of anguish by doing it.

Good Luck Everybody

A coupe of great inspirational movie quotes:

“You , me or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain’t about how hard you hit. It’s about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward. That’s how winning is done!”
Rocky – Sylvester Stallone
Movie: Rocky Balboa

“And we can stay here, get the sh!t kicked out of us…or we can fight our way back into the light. We can climb out of hell…one inch at a time.”
Coach Tony D’Amato – Al Pacino
Movie: Any Given Sunday

Re: This is why you don't stop Benzos abruptly
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 07:43:40 pm »

[Buddie]

First let me say I am sorry you are going through all this. I know how you feel.

Last week I ended up in the back of an ambulance and in the ER because I had quit xanax C/T and I was taking a very high dose. I blacked out/passed out and had a seizure, it was very scary. I don’t remember anything except waking up with EMT’s standing over me asking me if I knew my name. Thank God my husband was there and my kids were not.

Thankfully I am ok now, I am trying to taper down my dosage by .5mg once a week until I get to .25mg then I plan to jump CT from there. I also use cannabis to help curb the withdrawal symptoms, and cannabis has also been known to be effective at curbing seizures so hopefully I won’t end up at the hospital again.

A Benzo Buddies Christmas

Christmas Carols for Buddies

Micro-Tapering — The Twelve Years of Tapering
On my first year of tapering my one true guru Ashton sent to me
A giant boatload of diazepam
On my second year of tapering my one true guru Ashton sent to me
two trips to the nuthouse
and a giant boatload of diazepam
On my third year of tapering my one true guru Ashton sent to me
three electroshock treatments
two trips to the nuthouse
and a giant boatload of diazepam …

Borderline Personality Disorder — Thoughts of Roasting on an Open Fire

Manic — Deck the Halls and Walls and House and Lawn and Streets and Stores and Office and Town and Cars and Buses and Trucks and Trees and …
Agoraphobia — I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day But Wouldn’t Leave My House

Social Anxiety Disorder — Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas While I Sit Here and Hyperventilate

Schizophrenia — Do You Hear What I Hear, the Voices, the Voices?

Oppositional Defiant Disorder — Santa Claus is Coming to Town
You better not cry – Oh yes I will
You better not shout – I can if I want to
You better not pout – Can if I want to
I’m telling you why – Not listening
Santa Claus is coming to town – No he’s not!!
Multiple Personality Disorder — We Three Kings Disoriented Are

Dementia — I Think I’ll Be Home for Christmas

Bad Wave — Walking In a Winter Wonderland Miles from My House in My Slippers and Robe
Involuntary Psychiatric Hold — Over the River Aand Through the Woods To The Funny House We Go

Paranoia — Santa Claus is Coming to Town to Get Me

Personality Disorder — You Better Watch Out, I’m Gonna Cry, I’m Gonna Pout, Maybe I’ll Tell You Why

Narcissistic — Hark the Herald Angels Sing About Me

Attention Deficit Disorder — Silent Night, Holy
OOOOOOOOh look at the Froggy
Can I have chocolate
Why is France so far away?
Doctor Hate — I Saw Mommy Kissing Dr. Santa Claus So I Burned Down the House

Amnesia — I Don’t Remember If I’ll be Home for Christmas

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder — Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells …

5150 — Away in A Psych Ward

Where is KlonopinKills now?

BENZO BUDDIES NOW HIRING

Benzo Buddies is actively looking for members to invite onto the team to help out and return the forum to normal functioning.

  1. Must be willing to throw morality, truth, sanity and reason out the window
  2. Has to be able to ban anyone who dares question the Supreme Leader (Colin)
  3. Willing to put in long hours being abusing, and be abused by, mentally ill drug addicts
  4. Must be delusional
  5. Can be on drugs (legal or ?)
  6. Has to have superiority complex
  7. Can be bipolar or completely psychotic
  8. Desire to be brainwashed a plus
  9. “Mad Gift” skills a plus (check with the Icarus Project or see schizophrenia or lunacy in dictionary)
  10. Willing to sign one billion year labor contract
  11. Unnatural obsession with Tom Jones
  12. Fear of butter a plus
  13. Believes insanity is a virtue
  14. Willing to cover up cult suicides
  15. Eager to see mentally ill drug addicts cut and suffer tapers for years off of minute amounts of benzodiazepines
  16. Does not use MSG or fluoride! Eats only free range chickens and organic foods!
  17. MUST HATE DOCTORS (ESPECIALLY LEO STERNBACH)
  18. Past experience with psychedelics a boon
  19. Must be full of self-pity (the more the better)
  20. Blames psychiatry for drug addiction
  21. Willing to target families of those who challenge the Supreme Leader
  22. 200+ hours of listening to Bliss Johns’ voice in the dark curled in a fetal position is a prerequisite for job candidates
  23. Must memorize Ashton Manual and Benzo Buddies Forum User Manual (FUM)
  24. Willing to wear Tin Foil Hat Benzo Buddies Uniform©
  25. Worship of Ashton, Breggin, Whitaker, Nimmo, Lader, Gianna, Frederick, Satan, Oprah, Dr. Drew, Moran, Manson, Xenu, Hope1962 a must
  26. Must be willing to sell soul (this one is a deal breaker)
  27. Willing to submit to mind control experiments
  28. Nuts
  29. Crazy
  30. Possessed by Satan
  31. Ability to lie a must (sociopathic tendencies and willingness to stab friends in the back repeatedly earns extra-points)
  32. Prior experience running benzo forums will gets ideal candidate to “top of the heap”
  33. Untreated OCD a plus
  34. Willing to hand out dangerous medical advice to total strangers based on nothing more than reading a few paragraphs online
  35. 5150 experience not necessary but adds points for right person

Candidates are encouraged to submit their resume by contacting Colin or Hope1962 through the PM system or the Help Desk. Include ‘pound of flesh’ for consideration. Totally anonymous.

Cedartree blames gluten for insanity

Scared of my depression
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:29:12 pm »

Metheral66

I have been diagnosed with clinical depression or uni polar depression as some call it. It started after I I was on benzos for about a yr. It got much worse when I had a tramatic event, and again even worse whwn I started to try to come off the benzos.

Im just so scared my depression will never lift. My friend quit benzos over 5 yrs ago and he hes a mess. What he sicribes to me sounds like bi polar. His moods are every where. And he refuses to take a mood stabalizer which I think is insane.

I just dont want some sperate underlining condition to ruin my recovery.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 11:12:44 pm »

journey

Hi Metheral66

Your depression is temporary physical damage, causing depressive symptoms.
External stressors will make it worse.

Your depression will lift, as soon as you heal from the benzos.
Many people are reporting feeling better doing daily cuts.
I am coping better on daily cuts.

I don’t think your friend is insane because he does not choose to take a mood stabilizer, because psych meds can make things worse for a lot of people. He may want to pursue non drug treatment for his moods though.
If they are caused by benzos however, they will not respond to treatment in the normal way, due to the fact that they are caused by temporary physical damage.

It is common in wd to worry about never getting better, but we do heal.
All we need to do is to taper down as smoothly as possible.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm »

Metheral66

Thanks for the encouragment journey.

I hope my depression will lift. I know ashton talks about the use of anti depressents if the depression is sever.

I know my friends not crazy but its frusterating to see him still suffer. I just want him to get well b/c he hasnt touched a drug in 5 yrs and is doing horribly. Whats most frusterating is that he wont try anything. I have anoth friend who is bi polar and she takes a mood stavalizer and is doing amazing. Before the drug she wasnt functioning at all.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:06:00 am »

cedartree

I haven’t had any depression, not once since I’ve been off benzo’s and all other psych drugs. My doctors labeled me as everything from S.A.D. to depressive, to bipolar, to GAD, etc etc etc. All along it was the drugs themselves that caused most of my problems. The other thing that caused my problems was being misdiagnosed when all along I had Celiac disease and no one knew what it was until now. If only I had been eating a gluten free diet and taking good care of myself I would never have had to suffer such horrible withdrawals.

Also, my sister was diagnosed with bipolar disorder this summer. She is now 100% better and guess what……she isn’t taking any psych drugs of any kind!!! Amazing, her bipolar episode was actually triggered by Trazodone and Abilify. I was the one who suggested she allow herself to be off the drugs for a few months and see how she does. She’s so much better now. Just proves to me that the drugs themselves cause/create more problems than they could ever solve. This is my experience and my observation.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 06:42:18 am »

Metheral66

Thats awsome both you and your sister doing well!

Its just so very confusing. I mean you guys got better being off drugs. But how come my friends never did. Things just seemed to get worse. Like I said it wasn’t until my one friend was put on a mood stablalizer did she recover.

And my other friend has been med free for 5 years and he is just getting worse and worse.

Its hard to say “no one should ever take drugs” just as it hard to say “everyone should take drugs”.

Like when do you say medication may help?

I know for myself, I have to be a mood stabalizer or my depression becomes extremely disabling

Isn’t really confusing? or is it just me?

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 11:51:37 am »

journey

Quote from: Metheral66 on December 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm
Thanks for the encouragment journey.

I hope my depression will lift. I know ashton talks about the use of anti depressents if the depression is sever.

I know my friends not crazy but its frusterating to see him still suffer. I just want him to get well b/c he hasnt touched a drug in 5 yrs and is doing horribly. Whats most frusterating is that he wont try anything. I have anoth friend who is bi polar and she takes a mood stavalizer and is doing amazing. Before the drug she wasnt functioning at all.
Hi Metheral

Ashton nowadays is against ad’s. Her manual was done in 1982. It is now found that AD’s can cause more harm.
Ultimately its up to you though.
They have to be tapered too, sometimes with difficult results.
I assure you that you will recover.
You can not know what your friend has done in the last five years. If he used alcohol or whatever, so I would not compare myself with your friend.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:43:31 pm »

cedartree

Quote from: Metheral66 on Yesterday at 06:42:18 am
Its just so very confusing. I mean you guys got better being off drugs. But how come my friends never did. Things just seemed to get worse. Like I said it wasn’t until my one friend was put on a mood stablalizer did she recover.

And my other friend has been med free for 5 years and he is just getting worse and worse.

Perhaps your friend has something else wrong that has nothing at all to do with medications. I for instance suffered from depression because I had Celiac disease that was undiagnosed. When I eat gluten it causes severe depression and anxiety in me. They called it a mental disorder when in fact it was an autoimmune disease. Since I adhere to the correct diet, I am healthy. If I didn’t I would be curled up in a ball somewhere crying everyday.

All I’m saying is there could be factors that we simply do not understand and the doctors may not have dug deep enough to get to the root cause. If my doctors had stopped long enough to stop giving me drugs and looked at all of my symptoms, I believe they would have found my autoimmune disease long ago and I could have been healthy and happy without any drugs of any kind. But that’s not how our western medicine operates. The first thing they do is prescibe you something without thought to what kind of backlash it’s going to take on your health and your life.

All I can say is that you’ll never know just how healthy you can be until you’ve remained off drugs for a period of time and I don’t mean a month or two. You’ve got to really give it a chance. Lifestyle I have found is more important than anything else. If you take good care of your health your mind will be happier. It’s that simple. But somewhere along the line in our western culture we’ve lost sight of that altogether.

M, it used to be confusing to me too, now it’s clear as day. I had to go through all that you are going through before I figured this out for myself. Don’t worry, you’ll get there and find your answers.