BENZO BUDDIES NOW HIRING

Benzo Buddies is actively looking for members to invite onto the team to help out and return the forum to normal functioning.

  1. Must be willing to throw morality, truth, sanity and reason out the window
  2. Has to be able to ban anyone who dares question the Supreme Leader (Colin)
  3. Willing to put in long hours being abusing, and be abused by, mentally ill drug addicts
  4. Must be delusional
  5. Can be on drugs (legal or ?)
  6. Has to have superiority complex
  7. Can be bipolar or completely psychotic
  8. Desire to be brainwashed a plus
  9. “Mad Gift” skills a plus (check with the Icarus Project or see schizophrenia or lunacy in dictionary)
  10. Willing to sign one billion year labor contract
  11. Unnatural obsession with Tom Jones
  12. Fear of butter a plus
  13. Believes insanity is a virtue
  14. Willing to cover up cult suicides
  15. Eager to see mentally ill drug addicts cut and suffer tapers for years off of minute amounts of benzodiazepines
  16. Does not use MSG or fluoride! Eats only free range chickens and organic foods!
  17. MUST HATE DOCTORS (ESPECIALLY LEO STERNBACH)
  18. Past experience with psychedelics a boon
  19. Must be full of self-pity (the more the better)
  20. Blames psychiatry for drug addiction
  21. Willing to target families of those who challenge the Supreme Leader
  22. 200+ hours of listening to Bliss Johns’ voice in the dark curled in a fetal position is a prerequisite for job candidates
  23. Must memorize Ashton Manual and Benzo Buddies Forum User Manual (FUM)
  24. Willing to wear Tin Foil Hat Benzo Buddies Uniform©
  25. Worship of Ashton, Breggin, Whitaker, Nimmo, Lader, Gianna, Frederick, Satan, Oprah, Dr. Drew, Moran, Manson, Xenu, Hope1962 a must
  26. Must be willing to sell soul (this one is a deal breaker)
  27. Willing to submit to mind control experiments
  28. Nuts
  29. Crazy
  30. Possessed by Satan
  31. Ability to lie a must (sociopathic tendencies and willingness to stab friends in the back repeatedly earns extra-points)
  32. Prior experience running benzo forums will gets ideal candidate to “top of the heap”
  33. Untreated OCD a plus
  34. Willing to hand out dangerous medical advice to total strangers based on nothing more than reading a few paragraphs online
  35. 5150 experience not necessary but adds points for right person

Candidates are encouraged to submit their resume by contacting Colin or Hope1962 through the PM system or the Help Desk. Include ‘pound of flesh’ for consideration. Totally anonymous.

Cedartree blames gluten for insanity

Scared of my depression
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:29:12 pm »

Metheral66

I have been diagnosed with clinical depression or uni polar depression as some call it. It started after I I was on benzos for about a yr. It got much worse when I had a tramatic event, and again even worse whwn I started to try to come off the benzos.

Im just so scared my depression will never lift. My friend quit benzos over 5 yrs ago and he hes a mess. What he sicribes to me sounds like bi polar. His moods are every where. And he refuses to take a mood stabalizer which I think is insane.

I just dont want some sperate underlining condition to ruin my recovery.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 11:12:44 pm »

journey

Hi Metheral66

Your depression is temporary physical damage, causing depressive symptoms.
External stressors will make it worse.

Your depression will lift, as soon as you heal from the benzos.
Many people are reporting feeling better doing daily cuts.
I am coping better on daily cuts.

I don’t think your friend is insane because he does not choose to take a mood stabilizer, because psych meds can make things worse for a lot of people. He may want to pursue non drug treatment for his moods though.
If they are caused by benzos however, they will not respond to treatment in the normal way, due to the fact that they are caused by temporary physical damage.

It is common in wd to worry about never getting better, but we do heal.
All we need to do is to taper down as smoothly as possible.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm »

Metheral66

Thanks for the encouragment journey.

I hope my depression will lift. I know ashton talks about the use of anti depressents if the depression is sever.

I know my friends not crazy but its frusterating to see him still suffer. I just want him to get well b/c he hasnt touched a drug in 5 yrs and is doing horribly. Whats most frusterating is that he wont try anything. I have anoth friend who is bi polar and she takes a mood stavalizer and is doing amazing. Before the drug she wasnt functioning at all.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 04:06:00 am »

cedartree

I haven’t had any depression, not once since I’ve been off benzo’s and all other psych drugs. My doctors labeled me as everything from S.A.D. to depressive, to bipolar, to GAD, etc etc etc. All along it was the drugs themselves that caused most of my problems. The other thing that caused my problems was being misdiagnosed when all along I had Celiac disease and no one knew what it was until now. If only I had been eating a gluten free diet and taking good care of myself I would never have had to suffer such horrible withdrawals.

Also, my sister was diagnosed with bipolar disorder this summer. She is now 100% better and guess what……she isn’t taking any psych drugs of any kind!!! Amazing, her bipolar episode was actually triggered by Trazodone and Abilify. I was the one who suggested she allow herself to be off the drugs for a few months and see how she does. She’s so much better now. Just proves to me that the drugs themselves cause/create more problems than they could ever solve. This is my experience and my observation.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 06:42:18 am »

Metheral66

Thats awsome both you and your sister doing well!

Its just so very confusing. I mean you guys got better being off drugs. But how come my friends never did. Things just seemed to get worse. Like I said it wasn’t until my one friend was put on a mood stablalizer did she recover.

And my other friend has been med free for 5 years and he is just getting worse and worse.

Its hard to say “no one should ever take drugs” just as it hard to say “everyone should take drugs”.

Like when do you say medication may help?

I know for myself, I have to be a mood stabalizer or my depression becomes extremely disabling

Isn’t really confusing? or is it just me?

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 11:51:37 am »

journey

Quote from: Metheral66 on December 27, 2012, 11:58:57 pm
Thanks for the encouragment journey.

I hope my depression will lift. I know ashton talks about the use of anti depressents if the depression is sever.

I know my friends not crazy but its frusterating to see him still suffer. I just want him to get well b/c he hasnt touched a drug in 5 yrs and is doing horribly. Whats most frusterating is that he wont try anything. I have anoth friend who is bi polar and she takes a mood stavalizer and is doing amazing. Before the drug she wasnt functioning at all.
Hi Metheral

Ashton nowadays is against ad’s. Her manual was done in 1982. It is now found that AD’s can cause more harm.
Ultimately its up to you though.
They have to be tapered too, sometimes with difficult results.
I assure you that you will recover.
You can not know what your friend has done in the last five years. If he used alcohol or whatever, so I would not compare myself with your friend.

Re: Scared of my depression
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:43:31 pm »

cedartree

Quote from: Metheral66 on Yesterday at 06:42:18 am
Its just so very confusing. I mean you guys got better being off drugs. But how come my friends never did. Things just seemed to get worse. Like I said it wasn’t until my one friend was put on a mood stablalizer did she recover.

And my other friend has been med free for 5 years and he is just getting worse and worse.

Perhaps your friend has something else wrong that has nothing at all to do with medications. I for instance suffered from depression because I had Celiac disease that was undiagnosed. When I eat gluten it causes severe depression and anxiety in me. They called it a mental disorder when in fact it was an autoimmune disease. Since I adhere to the correct diet, I am healthy. If I didn’t I would be curled up in a ball somewhere crying everyday.

All I’m saying is there could be factors that we simply do not understand and the doctors may not have dug deep enough to get to the root cause. If my doctors had stopped long enough to stop giving me drugs and looked at all of my symptoms, I believe they would have found my autoimmune disease long ago and I could have been healthy and happy without any drugs of any kind. But that’s not how our western medicine operates. The first thing they do is prescibe you something without thought to what kind of backlash it’s going to take on your health and your life.

All I can say is that you’ll never know just how healthy you can be until you’ve remained off drugs for a period of time and I don’t mean a month or two. You’ve got to really give it a chance. Lifestyle I have found is more important than anything else. If you take good care of your health your mind will be happier. It’s that simple. But somewhere along the line in our western culture we’ve lost sight of that altogether.

M, it used to be confusing to me too, now it’s clear as day. I had to go through all that you are going through before I figured this out for myself. Don’t worry, you’ll get there and find your answers.

Glen’s Story: Oprah’s piano man talks about putting a plastic bag over his head

The stigma of the madness.
« on: Yesterday at 11:49:25 pm »

glenthepianoman

Hi everyone.

One of the things I’ve struggled with, personally, over the last few years is communicating to friends and family just what the addiction was all about. Why did I “choose to become addicted”, and looking at all sorts of misconceptions and a general inability to understand withdrawal unless you’ve been through it. So I made a document.. a pdf.. a ‘letter’, of sorts, that I think does a good job of allowing a non-addict to at least understand what some of the hell is like, and exactly why we can flail so much and in such a self-desctructive way.

Hopefully my experience and words can help someone else communicate just what it’s all truly about.

It’s called “To Breathe or not to Breathe”.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cp4a6vq9p9y5wlb/ToBreatheOrNot.pdf

This is about my own personal experience, but I hope it can be in some way helpful to others.

Thanks,
Glen

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« Reply #42 on: Today at 12:18:52 PM »

When I read horror stories about tapering too fast and what comes with that, I get scared and fear makes me feel like I might not be able to do it.  When I read about slow tapering and the success stories, I have hope.  I took Benzos most of my adult life.  If it takes half that time to be free again, Ill be one very happy old man.  I am  not counting days or years. I am listening to my head and body.  It tells me when I can taper down again so at least I can be somewhat happy and functional. 
JoeD

I detoxed,  off 20 mgs of valium,  almost 22 months ago,  I know how powerful these drugs are, as do many others who have come off in this most horrifying way.  I don’t want anyone to ever feel that scared or lonely or sick.  

Zoe, I am sorry you had to detox. we will never know if your cumulative amount of suffering would be greater if you had taken 22 months to taper vs your detox. Would you rather be just coming off today instead of being 22 months free?

Please understand that taking several months may be better for most people that a few days, or a few years. Too little or too much time to taper have serious draw backs.

Seek the golden mean my friend 

Mark

You are an insulting sob.  Get a life.

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Benzo Free 11/27/2009

SPECIAL COMMENT BY ANONYMOUS BENZO BUDDIES MEMBER

I have a feeling this post will draw some fire, so that’s fine with me. Let me start by saying that I have researched the subject matter extensively, consulting MDs, pharmacists and the good ole Internet.

In the UK a doctor named Heather Ashton is worshiped as a saviour for benzo addicted people and insists that the only way to come off ANY benzo is to switch to the equivalent dose of Valium. This is problematic in a number of ways.

  1. She states 1mg Xanax =20mg Valium accepted in UK only as conversion
  2. Virtually ALL US and Canadian medical professionals estimate the equivalency to be between 5-10 mg of Valium per 1mg Xanax
  3. Xanax is a 1,4 triazalo benzo targeting completely different receptor sites than Valium
  4. Many unfortunate individuals attempting this have wound up with a dual dependency because of this fact

On the subject of the UK and it’s benzo forums, I have been there and in my opinion most of the people making posts, including the administrators, suffer from some sort of untreated mental illness ranging from OCD to schizophrenia/ paranoid schizophrenia.

It is blatantly obvious by their religiosity regarding anti-benzo thinking, much as the Scientology group condemns the field of psychiatry. Lay persons should NOT give holier than thou medical advice to those who have become dependent on ANY drug. A competent MD should ALWAYS be the first line of action in treating a medical condition. Support is one thing…self prescribing is another. Prescribing is for licensed physicians only.

As far as DEA Schedule 2 narcotics drug abuse is concerned, they are reserved for the most serious medical conditions and certainly NOT for recreational use. Around here we have a heroin Drug abuse epidemic with MANY addicts being found dead with the needle still in their arm due to the purity and high added dose of crystalline fentanyl added to the mixture. This is absolutely Russian Roulette, and I would strongly advise anyone buying street narcotics get into rehab ASAP before they die. IMO.

And for those who religiously claim that benzos are evil and brain damaging, for the record I developed 3 clean energy patents in the past 3 years while taking these “evil” drugs and earned close to $2 million as a result. So much for the debilitating effects of benzos. One final note: Years ago I was legally prescribed Valium 10mg 4 x a day and kicked it after 5 years. The night terrors were absolutely horrific. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. BTW am doing fine with my direct taper off Xanax. OK, bring it on ON!