BALA vs. Benzo Buddies knife fight

new bill that can harm us - action needed
« on: March 19, 2017, 04:10:10 pm »

[Buddie]

One new bill has passed the house that will make it even harder than it is now to sue a pharmaceutical company for an injury. Another is coming behind it. It is important we contact the Senators and stop this. Write to your senators (Everyone has two) via this link about HR 985 or CALL THEM! Then write to or call your House Rep about HR 1215 They hate phone calls because they actually have to respond with more than a form letter. No democrat has voted for this bill, so focus on republicans. https://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/

H.R. 985, the 2017 Fairness in Class Action Litigation Act, aims to put more obstacles in the way of plaintiffs/victims who seek justice. This justice-reform bill is a gift to the pharmaceutical industry, and other big corporations that hurt citizens (like big banks, big agriculture, big chemical, big oil etc.) from Congress men and women who receive millions of dollars in donations from those industries. (PASSED HOUSE)

HR 1215 “Protecting Access to Care Act of 2017.” H.R. 1215 eliminates the rights of people harmed by medical professionals. It rigs the system, making it nearly impossible for injured victims to pursue lawsuits by imposing harsh time limits on lawsuits, denying the right to a trial by jury, limiting certain damages to $250,000 (even in states where such limits are unconstitutional), and protecting those who prescribe dangerous drugs and who hurt people with dangerous medical devices. (HAS NOT PASSED HOUSE YET – CONTACT YOUR HOUSE REP)

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2017, 10:19:02 pm »

[Buddie]

That’s fucked up.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2017, 02:12:22 am »

[Buddie]

I read the bill.

I don’t see how it creates any hardship for folks that have been harmed by medicines of med providers.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2017, 02:41:01 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 02:12:22 am
I read the bill.

I don’t see how it creates any hardship for folks that have been harmed by medicines of med providers.

I’m not exactly what bill you read. My spouse, who is an attorney and policy expert, read it and declared it is dangerous tort reform designed to greatly harm victims of medical malpractice. It essentially restricts the ability for victims to be compensated or to hold hospitals, incompetent doctors, nursing homes and pharmaceutical companies responsible for harming patients. All this bill does is line the pockets of big business and deprive the most needy access to fair compensation.

Call those republican lawmakers to help stop this onerous legislation.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2017, 03:08:00 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 02:41:01 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 02:12:22 am
I read the bill.

I don’t see how it creates any hardship for folks that have been harmed by medicines of med providers.

I’m not exactly what bill you read. My spouse, who is an attorney and policy expert, read it and declared it is dangerous tort reform designed to greatly harm victims of medical malpractice. It essentially restricts the ability for victims to be compensated or to hold hospitals, incompetent doctors, nursing homes and pharmaceutical companies responsible for harming patients. All this bill does is line the pockets of big business and deprive the most needy access to fair compensation.

Call those republican lawmakers to help stop this onerous legislation.

This is the bill I read (as referenced in the original post)

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1215/text

I see none of the “dangers” you mention, but I do see, for example, some of the following language:

“…nothing in this Act shall limit a claimant’s recovery of the full amount of the available economic damages,

“…the court shall supervise the arrangements for payment of damages to protect against conflicts of interest that may have the effect of reducing the amount of damages awarded that are actually paid to claimants. In particular, in any health care lawsuit in which the attorney for a party claims a financial stake in the outcome by virtue of a contingent fee, the court shall have the power to restrict the payment of a claimant’s damage recovery to such attorney, and to redirect such damages to the claimant based upon the interests of justice and principles of equity.

No provider of collateral source benefits shall recover any amount against the claimant or receive any lien or credit against the claimant’s recovery or be equitably or legally subrogated to the right of the claimant in a health care lawsuit involving injury or wrongful death.”

Sounds to me that it protects harmed individuals from predatory attorneys.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 am »

[Buddie]

[…],

You can quote whatever you’d like, doesn’t make it true. This is extreme tort reform.

We should all be concerned about this bill and I’ve cut and pasted and article from Law Professors and Federal Courts Blog. I’d like to add, the lawmaker who introduced this bill is none other than Representative Steve King of Iowa. If you don’t know who Steve King is, google his name and “white supremacy.”

Republicans Introduce Sweeping Federalization of Tort Law, Limiting Recovery to Victims
By Patricia W. Moore Share
The Republicans in Congress are intent on expropriating ordinary citizens’ right to sue wrongdoers and allowing corporations and other defendants to violate the law without consequence.

Not content to protect corporations from accountability by hobbling class actions and intimidating plaintiffs’ lawyers with mandatory Rule 11 sanctions, Republicans are going for the full monty: federalized so-called “tort reform” (or what I call “tort elimination”).

Without a hearing, H.R. 1215 (Download HR1215) goes to straight to markup in the House Judiciary Committee this Tuesday. The bill was sponsored by Rep. Steve King (R-IA 4th Dist.).

H.R. 1215 has the Orwellian name of “Protecting Access to Care Act of 2017” (because all Republican-sponsored bills about the civil justice system are named just the opposite of what they would actually do to ordinary citizens). The name of this bill should be “Protecting Doctors and Hospitals from Liability for Wrongdoing and Protecting Insurance Companies from Having to Pay Legitimate Claims.”

Although Republicans supposedly care about “states’ rights,” this bill would eliminate (by preempting) vast swaths of state tort law. Among the many draconian provisions of the bill:

It would impose a uniform 3-year statute of limitations on “health care lawsuits.”* States would be free to have a shorter one, but not a longer one.
It would impose a uniform $250,000 limit on noneconomic damages.
The bill would not limit economic damages, but it would allow states to limit economic damages, noneconomic damages, and the total amount of damages.
Naturally, “the jury shall not be informed about the maximum award for noneconomic damages.” Because then they might at last understand what “tort reform” means.
The bill would eliminate joint-and-several liability. This could deprive an innocent injured person of full compensation, while shielding a wrongdoing defendant from paying for an injury he helped to cause.
“Any party” would be allowed to introduce evidence of collateral source benefits.
An award of future damages over $50,000 would be required, at the request of “any party,” to be paid in periodic payments.
The bill would completely release health care providers (as defined) from any liability in a products liability action for prescribing a product approved by the FDA.
Finally, no Republican-sponsored civil justice bill would be complete without denigrating plaintiffs’ attorneys and making it even more uneconomical for plaintiffs’ attorneys to represent clients. This bill goes so far as to call the payment to attorneys of an agreed-upon fee a “conflict of interest.” The bill would give the court the power to restrict a contingent fee. And “in no event shall” the contingent fee exceed 40% of the first $50,000 recovered, 33-1/3% of the next $50,000, 25% of the next $500,000, and 15% of any amount in excess of $600,000.

So now the federal government would be dictating to the states what attorneys’ fees they could allow. Those limits would apply even in settlement, mediation, or arbitration.

Really, guys? This bill isn’t even getting a hearing? Maybe to talk about its practical elimination of citizens’ ability to sue or the fact that the bill is a gift to the insurance industry? Maybe to talk about the experience that many states, swept up in “tort reform” over the last several decades, have had with similar provisions (many of which have been held unconstitutional)? How about the fact that the bill slavishly follows the positions of the American Tort Reform Association and the shadowy American Legislative Exchange Council?

H.R. 1215 joins five other bills introduced in the past few weeks that tilt the table in favor of corporate defendants in litigation. Is there any item on the corporate defense wish list that we haven’t seen introduced in Congress yet?

It is possible, though, that this bill could have one positive effect. It may induce doctors, hospitals, and insurance companies who currently refuse to participate in federal programs to do so, based upon the limited liability the bill would ensure.

*Definition: “The term ‘health care lawsuit’ means any health care liability claim concerning the provision of goods or services for which coverage was provided in whole or in part via a Federal program, subsidy or tax benefit, or any health care liability action concerning the provision of goods or services for which coverage was provided in whole or in part via a Federal program, subsidy or tax benefit, brought in a State or Federal court or pursuant to an alternative dispute resolution system, against a health care provider regardless of the theory of liability on which the claim is based . . .” This would presumably include Medicare, Medicaid, and the Affordable Care Act.

February 26, 2017 in Current Affairs, In the News, State Courts | Permalink | Comments (2)

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 03:55:53 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 am
[…],

You can quote whatever you’d like, doesn’t make it true. This is extreme tort reform.

But what I’m quoting is the actual language contained HB 1215.

Re: new bill that can harm us - action needed
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 04:01:03 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 03:55:53 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 am
[…],

You can quote whatever you’d like, doesn’t make it true. This is extreme tort reform.

But what I’m quoting is the actual language contained HB 1215.

So what! I posted a legal analysis by someone who cares about justice. ?

Kook petition for independent inquiry into benzodiazepines fails miserably

“The horrific life-destroying implications of benzodiazepines have been known about for decades and yet the medical profession remain largely in denial of the damage. The doctors are in denial not us. They conspired with Big Pharma to turn us into accidental addicts. Blah blah blah. The Department of Health, the BMA, and Parliament have a duty to give justice to those whose lives have been ruined. Blah blah. There must be an inquiry for the sake of future generations and for those undergoing the horrific consequences of this iatrogenically induced pandemic. Iatrogenic? Big word that means the doctors did it and we hate them. Pandemic? An epidemic of infectious disease that has spread throughout the world? Get a grip.”

https://www.change.org/p/health-select-committee-an-independent-inquiry-into-benzodiazepines

Even though it is a UK petition, signatures are being solicited, at secret online sites, not only from UK, but also from U.S. and Canadian, citizens. At last count they had 604 signatures. Their goal is 1000. One of the doctor-bashing groups claims to have over 1500 members but can’t even rouse a significant percentage of its members to sign the petition (they don’t have 1500 active members). Benzo Buddies claims 28,000 members but over 90% of the listed membership never posts, or has posted once, and ran from the site screaming (it is rumored Benzo Buddies even keeps deceased members on the membership rolls). If Benzo Buddies had that many members it would be very easy to get 5,000 of them to sign a petition that bashes doctors — some movement. It is as fake as their claims Big Pharma targeted them.

  • UK population 64 million
  • U.S. population 319 million
  • Canadian population 36 million

That is to say, out of a combined total population of 419 million only 604 people signed this garbage. What percentage is that? Pathetic is not even the right word to describe this.

Medication helps people live productive lives.

Kooks discover outside their tiny cult no one’s ever heard of Heather Ashton

Ashton's popularity
« on: February 08, 2017, 05:27:17 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m getting impression whenever I mention Dr Ashton / Ashton’s manual to GP’s or Psychiatrist no one of them seem to reflect. I feel like I’m mentioning name of some unknown shaman?

What’s your experience there?

Re: Ashton's popularity
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2017, 05:33:00 pm »

[Buddie]

A lot of doctors in the US have never heard of Dr. Ashton. Some disregard her work simply because they “think” they know better. My doctor was receptive and was willing to use her taper plan for my withdrawal.

[…] 

Re: Ashton's popularity
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2017, 05:35:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I am in the UK … and my psychiatrist had never heard of her. He also denied that my sxs were due to benzo withdrawal. He said something about there being no clinical trials …    on benzo withdrawal.

Re: Ashton's popularity
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2017, 05:46:14 pm »

[Buddie]

So I’m in Ireland… same here.

In addition, the best thing I heard today from one psychiatrist is that my addiction at this stage is merely psychological .

Generally they are all aware Benzos are bad and they will be reluctant to prescribe it, but when it comes to Benzo addiction in their eyes it looks less significant.

Those two things are not in proportion…
I wish they are right though

Kooks start petition demanding to stay crazy forever, has 15 signatures

If this is allowed.... please sign
« on: December 29, 2016, 03:49:26 pm »

[Buddie]

This is probably for US residents only…..
I know there is a lot of UK and other countries here….I wish you could sign but I don’t know if it would help

https://www.change.org/p/united-states-department-of-health-and-human-services-improved-provider-education-patient-support-and-detox-centers-for-benzodiazepine-withdraw

Headbangers vow to taper forever

Can't handle this symptom any more
« on: November 23, 2016, 07:21:31 pm »

[Buddie]

I have bot posted on this forum too much before but right now my anxiety is ramped up sky high.

I am again experiencing the extremely upsetting symptom of wanting to bash my head against the wall that I understand from others can be a Klonopin w/d s/x.

It is showing no sign going away. And that is really, really upsetting and worrying me.

These feelings went away pretty much totally before, so logically then can do again but that is my intellect talking, not my heart. I find it hard to believe they will and all the while I am in the deepest possible distress.

I am losing faith that I can survive, my confidence is in tatters and I wonder how much more hell I have to go through before I get t a place of mental stability again, that I last had two months ago – although it feels much longer.

The onset of dark evenings and winter mean more time cooped up alone.

I have to get my anxiety levels down to ease the symptom I so dread, and writing this has made me realise I need to focus full time on me now to get a sense of balance back and resume my taper. Right now everything is on hold and it’s so distressing.

Re: Can't handle this symptom any more
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2016, 07:54:25 pm »

[Buddie]

[…], I have no experience of Klonopin but I do know what it is like to be sobbing and banging my head on the refrigerator. And nobody can understand this unless they’ve been through it.

If you are feeling the worst you’ve ever felt then it will get better. It will probably be a while before you are properly better but the crisis reaches its peak and then falls again. So listen to your intellect.

I thought I couldn’t go on any more earlier today but, for better or worse, I am still here.

We don’t have any choice, do we?

I hope you feel better soon. […] x

Another stupid benzo site (the person who wrote this absurdity later resigned)

Here’s an idea of what the website will look like. Now that the content is organized, we need content haha! I’m going to list some subjects and I’d like for those capable to pick two to work on this week. What I need is roughly a couple of paragraphs about each subject. If it’s a table or chart nothing extra is needed. ______ _______ I know you probably have access to some files that already have a lot of this information fleshed out.

Also, if you have any references that back up the information you’re working on please include that as well. My vision is to provide the basic information on the ABC page. Then we can easily modify most of that for the medical professionals page, adding in references and citations for validity. ______ has the research we used for the awareness ads and I have a bunch from my What is Benzodiazepine Withdrawal Syndrome video.

______ __ _____ I would like ____ to do a page on why all benzos and their generics aren’t metabolized the same
Here is the list:
Benzos in the news (just a compilation of recent, relevantt news stories that have been posted in BALA)

List of benzos and z drugs generic and brand names

How benzos work – break down of what benzos do to your body

Equivancy chart, basically Ashton’s chart

Rapid taper/detox – what it is and why it’s detrimental for at least 20% of benzo patients

Summary of the Ashton manual)- highlight the important information people need to know

Conventional (Ashton) taper- what a 5-10% reduction every two to four weeks looks like, with cutting pills

Liquid titration- what it looks like using water

Using a compound

Tapering terminology- just a dictionary of benzo terms

List of symptoms, organized in some way

Thanks for your help. I’m so excited to get this up and running! I think it will be the main source for accurate benzo news and info.

Death by brainwashing: Benzos bad, cigarettes good

Can I still smoke cigarettes?
« on: October 28, 2016, 09:36:37 pm »

[Buddie]

Im sure this question has been asked a thousand times on here but Im a newbie to benzobuddys. Can I smoke a little? I was smoking half a pack daily. Stopped ct when I found out was withdrawing from K. Now Im dying for 2 or three smokes a day. I know i should just stay off them but whats the info on their effect on withdrawals? Thanks everyone. You guys make this bad trip better!