Kooky Monday: Benzo belly is back!

Benzo Belly
« on: September 09, 2017, 09:29:07 pm »

[Buddie]

I see this term thrown around a lot. What exactly is it?

Re: Benzo Belly
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2017, 01:42:27 am »

[Buddie]

It’s sort of a catch-all term for belly/G.I. symptoms. It includes, bloating, reflux, nausea, weight gain, weight loss, and may also include constipation/diarrhea.

Special Kooky Monday on a Friday: Hemorrhoid cream affects benzo withdrawal

Hemorrhoid Cream?
« on: March 05, 2017, 04:58:30 pm »

[Buddie]

Does anyone know if this could cause side effects. I’m almost two years off K and have terrible anxiety and overwhelm. I’m still on 20 mg Elavil and 10 mg Buspar.

Kooky Monday: Benzo withdrawal causes acne

Acne breakouts during rapid taper
« on: April 03, 2017, 12:42:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi buddies,
I’m 2 months in on a forced rapid taper of valium & have 2 more months to go before I hit 0. I have suffered from acne since I was about 13 years old~it started out as cystic acne & has unfortunately left a lot of scarring. It continued throughout my 20’s then started clearing up when I was about 32. Before I started my taper I was having some hormonal issues & my acne resurfaced~but this time as mainly very oily skin, blackheads, & a smattering of pimples around that time of the month. However, about 5 weeks into my taper my skin started to get extremely oily & I started getting lots of pimples. Yesterday a cyst surfaced on my chin ? I haven’t had cystic acne since I was a teenager! It’s so embarrassing. Does anyone know if benzo withdrawal & acne are related? My guess is that since the withdrawal symptoms pretty much encompass every part of our bodies, I wouldn’t be surprised if it messes with our hormones as well. Has anyone else experienced this symptom? & when will it go away? I have enough to worry about what with all the symptoms I’m already having that cystic acne is the LAST thing I need! Thank you to everyone in advance & I hope everyone has a good start to the week ?

Kooky Monday: Potatoes contain diazepam

POTATOES contain DIAZEPAM !!! MOTHER NATURE is mad...
« on: March 12, 2017, 04:05:53 pm »

Hi All,
i put what i have read
is it true?? if YES i won’t eat potatoes anymore for years !!  

post @ poppies.org

“We must be talking the atropa alkaloids right? No….not really…in the last few years it was noticed that plants such as wheat and potatoes accumulated benzodiazepines…more recently it was demonstrated that sterile plant cultures (Solanum tuberosum and Artemesia dracunculus) are capable of synthesizing various 5-phenyl-1,4-benzodiazepines (the pharmacologically active type) including diazepam, N-desmethyldiazpam, delorazepam, delorazepam, lorazepam etc…(see Kavvadias et al, 2000 Biochem Biophys Res Comm 269:290) thus indicating that the plant (and not some bacterial or fungal contaminant) is producing these compounds. In this paper, they culture a number of plants in sterile conditions including potato (Solanum tuberosum) and French tarragon (Artemesia dracunculus) and then identified the presence of these compounds using benzodiazepine receptor assays (using brain membranes) and via preparative HPLC-ESI- MS/MS using known benzodiazepine standards for comparison. So it seems pretty certain that these plants really are producing these compounds (albeit in low amounts – for example temazepam was found at 100-450 ng/g FW in potato cultures). The pathway to these compounds is also totally unknown really…it has been suggested that a pathway similar to that found in penicillium leading to cyclopeptine and utilizing anthranilate, tyrosine and glycine to form the benzo skeleton is responsible for their formation at least in these fungi…i have my suspicions that the whole pathway is based on benzoic acid, glycine and anthranilate in plants however, with a mechanism similar to that used in the biosynthesis of tryptophan…anyways…

does anyone else want to put in their two cents on this?

can we start engineering potatoes to produce benzos?

Not that i really consider the benzos to be sacramental in anyway, but i don’t know what other forum to post this in…”

Kooky Monday: Benzo Buddies attacks Mad in America as being TOO anti-psychiatry

Re: "Big pharma MD's killed my father"
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2017, 05:58:57 pm »

[Buddie]

My dad had the same symptoms as the dad posted here. He never takes drugs, and it was a hospital visit for dehydration that turned into pneumonia and he died. He was a doctor and always told me as a kid, if you want to kill yourself, just check into a hospital. So that warning turned out to be true. BTW, I believe he was beginning to suffer from Dementia even before he went to the ER…..And his wife was his advocate, as well as an NR. Sometimes I think MiA is bit much.

Re: "Big pharma MD's killed my father"
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2017, 08:30:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 04, 2017, 05:58:57 pm
My dad had the same symptoms as the dad posted here. He never takes drugs, and it was a hospital visit for dehydration that turned into pneumonia and he died. He was a doctor and always told me as a kid, if you want to kill yourself, just check into a hospital. So that warning turned out to be true. BTW, I believe he was beginning to suffer from Dementia even before he went to the ER…..And his wife was his advocate, as well as an NR. Sometimes I think MiA is bit much.

I concur. Sometimes MiA is way too much. There are a lot of professionals there speaking out about the dangers of these meds, but some of these professionals used to be conventional psychiatrists who prescribed a lot of these same medications in the past, and then got disillusioned with their field and adopted a different stance. It is good to see differing opinions, but this is all way too confusing to an average person in a situation like this. Some MiA articles sure cause a lot of cognitive dissonance in both doctors and patients. I guess, I just don’t like the absolutist stance on issues such as medications.

Heck, even Dr. Peter Breggin used to prescribe Librium during his psychiatric residency. Obviously, even he must have believed that psychopharmacology worked before he became medication skeptical…..

I notice a trend of a lot of antidepressant bashing over at the MiA. I wonder if that is because there is a little less stigma and controversy about antidepressants then about some other psychotropics. I don’t advocate antidepressant use, but I find it interesting how much antidepressant backlash there has been in the last 20 years, while the other meds were hardly being even mentioned. While so many were bashing Prozac and Zoloft, people were being prescribed Lamictal, Trileptal, Risperdal, Tegretol, Zyprexa, Ativan, Xanax, Klonopin, Gabapentin, Seroquel. Just saying…..

It makes me wonder how many people looked at the anti-depressant backlash, and kept thinking “Why should I take antidepressants when anti-anxiety meds have been there for years, and I am more anxious than depressed?” It is very easy to get into that sort of mindset. I think Robert Whitaker correctly points out that people are terribly confused about psych meds due to all these different schools of thought.
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Kooky Monday: Benzo Buddies advocates taking morphine when taper gets rough

WHEN IT BECOMES UNBEARABLE, Morphine!
« on: August 08, 2016, 12:58:38 pm »

[Buddie]

When i have excruciating pains with OUR friend
Benzo
I take 10mg Morphine
And survive
Think about it

Kooky Monday: Food panic

Organic food
« on: May 02, 2016, 07:21:33 am »

[Buddie]

Does organic food have any affect on withdrawal? Its good right? I’ve been trying to buy organic fruit, milk, eggs etc lately just because Im stupid to read on the Internet about food and get anxious. Guess what, whatever I do I get anxious. Now Im anxious for eating organic food, reading on the Internet saying its actually worse than normal food. 

What about you guys?

Kooky Monday: Self-pitying addiction vs iatrogenic dependence discussion devolves into wild bar brawl-style slugfest of personal insults


Appreciate the article, but not sure why this relentless demonization of big pharma and benzos…..similar trope over current “opiod” hysteria…blaming “opiod addiction” on Big Pharma and “oxycontin, etc. Big Pharma should be celebrated for providing us these ameliorative drugs.

as a “survivor” of many things including forced incarceration and Thorazine at a clip of 1600 mg. daily, should I have the right to flash my credentials any time you disagree with me and demand you apologize?

Whatever…regarding points missed– just trying to respond to a palpable hostile tone you have directed at me

http://www.madinamerica.com/2016/03/bridging-the-benzo-divide-iatrogenic-dependence-andor-addiction/#/comment-85090

Kooky Monday: Hubby demands wife end love affair with Xanax, check into Funny House

He wants to put me in rehab.
« on: March 21, 2016, 04:28:36 pm »

[Buddie]

My husband, that is. I can’t seem to explain to him that it probably won’t work, we’d be out thousands of dollars for nothing, and I’d (statistically wise) probably get more pills as soon as I got out.

But I couldn’t tell him any of that, all I could do was cry when he told me. He doesn’t understand benzos, I can’t make him understand and neither can anyone else.

I know he just wants to help me but ripping me away from my children, my home, my job, everything……that doesn’t seem like helping to me. I do everything for my kids, my husband isn’t even working right now and the youngest is in preschool/daycare, the older in 5th grade.

Has anyone actually BEEN to rehab and/or detox and will you share your stories with me? I also have a pdoc appt tomorrow, going to ask if at all possible can I switch to valium. He will probably say no due to the amount of X I am on but all I can do is ask.

Happy Frickin’ Monday, everyone.

–Sarah