Re: More OCD? Afraid of thoughts and thinking.
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2018, 02:51:58 pm »
[Buddie]
Quote from: [Buddie] on January 15, 2018, 04:30:23 pm
By telling yourself don’t worry it’s your OCD is reassurance. Not sure how you don’t see that. It seems we are both stuck in our own ways and in not going to argue with you. If it works for you then great. The fact you have had to read it 5 times is proof you’ve gone back to reassure your self of what it says. Normal people don’t read a book 5 times. People with OCD seeking reassurance do.
FIY: educated ppl, researchers and scientists do read books several times. Which does not mean they are abnormal or have OCD. They just have inquisitive minds and are willing to learn all their lives. Are open to new information and input. By reading more than posts on social sites. While repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
I’m sorry, but each of your posts further proves your ignorance. It’s exasperating. I understand that Wellbutrin makes you so aggressive and willing to prove Jeffrey M. Schwartz, MD’s “Brain Lock” is a worthless book on OCD. Although you didn’t read it. And strangely enough, it’s classified as the No 1 Bestseller in Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder by Amazon. The largest online book-selling network in the world.
I’m not saying the book you suggested is worthless. I’m going to read it. I’m always open to new information and my thinking is flexible. It’s up to you to include the link to that book, which you never did. I already did it in one of my previous posts.
Even if you say “you’re not going to argue” and “don’t mean to come across rude”. You actually are very aggressive.
As to Jeffrey M. Schwartz, MD’s book, which you so violently disqualify. You are not even able to explain the meaning of the Second “Reattribute” Step: “It’s not me – it’s my OCD.” I’m 100% sure you haven’t even read a page of this book.
You keep repeating the same phrase “seeking reassurance” like a parrot. The phrase you probably heard from some second-rate OCD therapist. Who apparently wasn’t able to help you. Considering how heavily polydrugged you are. The statement: “It’s not me – it’s my OCD” is not about “seeking reassurance”. It”s about chemical changes in the brain of ppl with OCD, which can be cured by CBT (Schwartz’s Four Step Method), ERP (which you rightly mentioned) and certain SSRIs/TCAs. It’s about stopping to identify oneself with the illness. Ppl with cancer may also say: “It’s not me – it’s my cancer.” But they don’t need it. As long as they dont have metastasis in the brain and are not put on opiates, their minds function in a normal way.
Unfortunately, most OCD patients are unable to do ERP (Exposure and Response Prevention), cause it triggers a high level of anxiety. Therefore, the most effective and safe method, summarized in The Four Steps, is CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy). It’s been around for almost 60 yrs and Jeffrey M. Schwartz, MD certainly wasn’t the one who invented it. He only modified it and made applicable for OCD sufferers. Helping thousands of ppl for decades of his scientific work and research.
Only 40-60% of ppl with OCD react to SSRIs/TCAs (Stanford University clinical data). These meds should be treated as “waterwings approach”, in addition to therapy. Which Schwartz rightly mentions.
The fact how respected and appreciated in the psychiatric field Jeffrey M. Schwartz, MD is, can easily be proved by the following link:
OCD UK – Summary of The Four Steps Method
There you can read about the method, of which you sadly know nothing. I’m afraid however you’re not able to read more than very short posts on BBs. And do everything you can to drive ppl out of their minds. I guess you won’t even bother to open the link. But I’m not posting it for you, actually. I post it for intelligent, open-minded ppl. Seeking relief from the OCD nightmare. Ppl like you are dangerous to OCD sufferers. I understand you’re unwell. But it would be good if you talked less and read/listened more.
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO MY POST. WHICH YOU WILL SURELY DO. I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS THREAD AND PUT YOU ON MY “IGNORE” LIST. WHICH YOU WILL SURELY DO. I UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS THREAD AND PUT YOU ON MY “IGNORE” LIST. I SEE YOU AS A SERIOUS THREAT TO MY MENTAL STABILITY. AND AS A THREAT TO OTHER OCD SUFFERERS HERE.. AND AS A THREAT TO OTHER OCD SUFFERERS HERE.
I understand you absolutely must have the last word in our “discussion”. But this is not any type of discussion. I’m writing this post and including links only out of concern for OCD sufferers. I put a lot of my time and energy into this post. Cause I’m afraid you may cause significant harm and make ppl feel even worse. Like it was the case with me.
Don’t take it personally, but all your talk reminds me of a saying by Albert Einstein. Who was certainly “seeking reassurance” and reading the same books many more times than “normal” ppl: “Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I’m not sure about the universe.”
Try to contemplate this quote for a while. If you’re able of this mental effort. Instead of writing further fight-provoking posts which I won’t even read. Cause I respect both my time and energy. And I don’t want to have a serious mental breakdown or a stroke as a result of reading your posts.
And to conclude, I prefer to be abnormal than ignorant, 100% convinced about my righteousness and immune to any logical reasoning.
Please don’t consider this post as a personal attack. If it were personal, I wouldn’t even bother to answer you. I wrote it as a defense of a book and method, which for me were a lifesaver. And may be so to other OCD sufferers. I wrote it as a criticism of a certain inflexible mindset, which is difficult for me to tolerate. Cause it may be extremely harmful.
Last Edit: January 16, 2018, 09:26:28 pm by [Buddie]
Re: More OCD? Afraid of thoughts and thinking.
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2018, 08:54:22 pm »
[Buddie]
I can’t believe you spent all that time writing trying to prove your right. I couldn’t even stand to read it all. Take it easy and maybe ought to read some more self help books. For the record. I’m not on Wellbutrin dip shit. It was a 3 month stint 2 years ago. Maybe ought to read my signature 5 times too.
Re: More OCD? Afraid of thoughts and thinking.
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2018, 09:21:22 pm »
[Buddie]
Quote from: [Buddie] on January 16, 2018, 08:54:22 pm
I can’t believe you spent all that time writing trying to prove your right. I couldn’t even stand to read it all. Take it easy and maybe ought to read some more self help books. For the record. I’m not on Wellbutrin dip shit. It was a 3 month stint 2 years ago. Maybe ought to read my signature 5 times too.
No doubt you aren’t able to read a longer text. Your signature is neither interesting nor important to me. I just had a quick glance at it. Maybe Anafranil is making you so hostile. Long time since I last took it.
I wasn’t trying to prove my right. All I wanted was to defend Jeffrey M. Schwartz, MD’s “Brain Lock, Twentieth Anniversary Edition: Free Yourself from Obsessive-Compulsive Behavior” – the best book on OCD ever written, IMO. Which you attempted to discredit without even having opened it.
It doesn’t matter in the least you didn’t read my post. As I said, I wasn’t engaging in any kind of discussion with you. We’re on a different intellectual level, sorry.
Maybe instead, you could elaborate on Jonathan Grayson Phd’s “Freedom from Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder: A Personalized Recovery Program for Living with Uncertainty, Updated Edition”. Which you have allegedly read. And recommended here. Without even giving the title. I’m doing it for the second time. I would be very interested what you have to say about this book.
I guess fellow OCD sufferers could also benefit from your knowledge. Aren’t you willing to help them? Or are you here only to pick up fights with ppl? Could you be so kind and at least change your target?
Yes, I’m definitely gonna read more self-help books. In order to be able to deal with individuals like you without going insane.
AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO MY POST.
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