Benzo Buddies claims common cold causes waves

Wave from a cold?
« on: December 18, 2019, 06:14:48 pm »

[Buddie]

Does anyone else get waves from a cold? Brain fog, dizziness, can’t concentrate, exhausted, can’t think straight, insomnia…

Re: Wave from a cold?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2019, 08:33:07 pm »

[Buddie]

I got sick a bunch of times with cold/flu bugs during WD and I could never figure out if they were legitimate colds due to a weakened immune system or “benzo flu“. Either way, raw ginger helped me a great deal. I think the WD exacerbates any normal cold symptoms you get. […] you feel better soon!

Re: Wave from a cold?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2019, 07:20:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes! Just as I was starting to think I was turning a corner I got sick last Wednesday and hit by a wave of extreme insomnia with added night terrors (yay!) anxiety, confusion and irritability and now my period is due in less than two weeks. […] you feel better. You’re not alone ❤️

Re: Wave from a cold?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2019, 07:44:58 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes! I actually think my waves come in the form of a cold or flu. If other people have colds or flus, I get them very badly and have all the worst symptoms and include more benzo symptoms. If other people do not have colds and flus, and it’s just me, I more look at is as just benzo withdrawal, but it’s very much the same.

Re: Wave from a cold?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2019, 09:38:53 pm »

[Buddie]

I got a cold right after visiting family for Thanksgiving – my little granddaughter had a bad cold. I know I caught it from her. For me it definitely wasn’t a wave manifesting as a cold. There were also some stressful family dynamics. Whether it was stress or the cold or both, I went into a tough wave for about 10 days. I’m in a window now. Over the cold and feeling good.

I […] you feel much better soon!

Benzo Buddies: “Is it possible that coconut oil could cause a worsening of symptoms?”

Coconut oil
« on: December 14, 2019, 11:50:08 pm »

[Buddie]

Two days ago I ate some coconut oil to help with what I think I have is some candida issues going on from the stress of this withdrawal and I’m in the worst wave I’ve been in, in a long time.

Feel like I’m detoxing badly. So sick. I had the worst anxiety after I took it and went to the bathroom like 4 times that day.

” ??

Benzo Buddies crosses bread off list of safe foods (it has alcohol in it)

Endogenous ethanol in foods. Bread can have up to 1.4% alcohol in it
« on: December 13, 2019, 03:42:36 pm »

[Buddie]

There is trace but significant enough amounts of alcohol in bread (yeast-based), fruits- especially ripe or juices, soy sauce, vinegar, and other foods. Perhaps some of us who are very sensitive should avoid these foods until we heal. A burger roll can have up to 1.4%- that’s like half of a standard cheap pilsner in the U.S. I know that when I drank even a gulp of beer I would feel paraesthesia on my face. Thoughts on any of this?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5421578/

How long will the obsessed Benzo Buddies leader’s nearly decade-long feud with Jana Hill go on?

Titration, Patents, and Fantastical Claims
« on: October 29, 2019, 11:34:44 pm »

Colin

Re: http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=231829.msg2975666#msg2975666

For many years there were attempts to promote a particular unproven/untested set of titration protocols. Further, those promoting these methods were engaged in rubbishing completely standard (and effective for most) pill-splitting tapers and characterizing them as ‘cut & suffer‘. They even peppered posts at BenzoBuddies with such language – this is when I first intervened in this matter (January, 2013). Even though Jana Hill (the person behind the protocols) closed down her forum some years ago, there continue to be a small number of very vocal individuals who seek to promote her untested claims as somehow proven or guaranteed to work. Indeed, there has been a recent uptick in activity promoting her protocols both within and without BB. When there is any attempt at push-back, the rather extreme reaction (including threats of lawsuits) are rather illustrative of the problem. If this fails, then perhaps one of Hill’s supporters will instead offer to purchase BB. No.

Jana Hill applied for a patent in 2012. As I suggested a short time later here at BB, the claims made in her patent were extremely flawed, some were even dangerous. Indeed, all twenty claims were rejected. Only with the help of the patent examiner (who apparently redrafted three claims for her) was a patent (with three claims) eventually allowed.

Hill seems to misunderstand (or wishes others to misunderstand) that because a patent is awarded, this somehow means that her protocols are: 1) tested and verified; and 2) are defensible. The award of a patent does NOT connote these things. A recent quote from Hill at the Benzodiazepine Information Coalition website:

Quote from: J.Hill
Crazy Canuk , in his opening statement, says that he learned this taper protocol from its developer through BenzoDetoxRecovery. He states that he hopes that it’s okay to make his videos ostensibly describing it. It isn’t; it wasn’t.

Using the protocol incorrectly tarnishes its good name and places users at risk. He presents it incorrectly.

The authentic BenzoMicroTaper protocol USPTO 9301963 has a 13 year record of success. It is verified by the US patent office as novel( it was not previously available), needed, and understandable by “those practiced in the art”.

If The Coalition’s rules allow it, I will post the way that you can find the authentic BenzoMicroTaper . False versions now seem ubiquitous. A summary is available for the patientsÂ’ doctors. You can ask for it using the “reply” button.

J.Hill

Benzodiazepine Tapering Strategies and Solutions – Benzodiazepine Information Coalition
https://www.benzoinfo.com/2017/10/09/benzodiazepine-tapering-strategies-and-solutions/

Hill’s statements that her method, “is verified by the US patent office as novel (it was not previously available), needed, and understandable by ‘those practiced in the art'”, is extremely misleading and disingenuous.

It is probably best for me to simply link to the patent and some information about patents:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9301963B2/en

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_having_ordinary_skill_in_the_art

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_(patent)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventive_step_and_non-obviousness

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prior_art

http://www.geocities.com/benzobusters/winslow.htm

And for anyone who is particularly interested, and would like to compare, here is the original patent application (with the rejected 20 claims):

http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PG01&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/srchnum.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=20120322794.PGNR.&OS=DN/20120322794&RS=DN/20120322794

Further reading, including threats from Hill to doxx a BB member:

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=159823.0

There is a lot I could get into, but my time is limited – I’ll leave it for readers to interpret (and discuss if they wish). But if any of you would prefer to read something a little more bite-sized, please check out the attached document*, which was supplied by Hill to the US Patent office in support of her appeal after the patent was initially rejected.** It is replete with nonsense, false claims, and utilization of quite extraordinary language.

* Available via the link at the foot of this post (with a small green paperclip image next to it).

** Please note: Jana Hill’s personal details appear in the attached document. However, Hill long ago chose to make her name and location public knowledge (and again very recently through the media). And the attached document is a public record.
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Benzo Buddies member attacks Lisa Ling for not mentioning Ashton’s death

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am »

[Buddie]

CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2019, 01:02:46 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am
CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

lol

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2019, 01:04:23 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am
CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

I’m not sure why they would report it. She’s only important to us, a tiny population. Why don’t you contact Lisa Ling and see what she says?

Re: This Is Life With Lisa Ling
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2019, 01:15:29 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 01:04:23 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on September 30, 2019, 12:45:24 am
CNN still hasn’t reported Heather Ashton’s death, two weeks after it happened. None of the media have reported it. You’d think Lisa Ling might have posted something about it, but I can’t find anything at all. Well, I guess that’s life with Lisa Ling.

I’m not sure why they would report it. She’s only important to us, a tiny population. Why don’t you contact Lisa Ling and see what she says?

If Heather Ashton is only important to us, a tiny population, then why is CNN planning to broadcast a Lisa Ling report about the benzo problem on October 6? Surely the issue must be important to more than just our tiny population. Besides which, CNN has had two weeks to work up a story on Ashton’s death that they could have been using to promote the Lisa Ling show on October 6. I think they’re simply unaware that Ashton has died. I suppose I could contact Lisa Ling or someone else at CNN and tell them, but why would I want to do their job for them?

Brainwashed Benzo Buddies member begs cult to stop .0008mg of benzodiazepine

Jumping vs .0008
« on: July 29, 2019, 08:03:22 pm »

[Buddie]

Down to the last push of a daily microtaper. If you are stable for the most part at a crumb say .0008 of medication. What is the outlook of jumping? I mean is there really any major difference to being on .0008 and zero? Or is the complete absence of the medication something to brace for. I have read mixed reviews, please share you knowledge and experience. Also has anyone jumped from that low of a tapered amount?