Kooks diagnose each other with hernias after eating ice cream

Please help just woke up with this I'm scared
« on: December 07, 2017, 03:44:23 am »

[Buddie]

I just got woken up with this, my heart was betting kind of fast, both my hands felt like they fell asleep feeling, then I started feeling really strange I didn’t know what was going on I ran to bathroom I felt weird as hell like I was going to pass out felt very thirsty pain in my chest my stomach bloated right up and I could feel like every nerve in the muscle pulsating this was scary. I did eat some ice cream and had a pretty vigorous hike today hunting can someone help me?

Re: Please help just woke up with this I'm scared
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2017, 04:39:08 am »

[Buddie]

Hi, It’s the Ice cream that has bloated you and it sounds like maybe you have a Hiatus Hernia…withdrawal can cause them..the vagus nerve was Irritated by the bloat, hence the heartbeat hard and strange feeling..It will pass as the bloat goes down. the vagus nerve control’s all of this …heartbeat urinary tract ect. Tass.

Re: Please help just woke up with this I'm scared
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2017, 09:22:28 am »

[Buddie]

Please don’t diagnose people with hernias or anything else. It’s hell on one’s potential health anxiety and there’s zero actual evidence to prove that that is what is wrong with the other person, but I bet it makes them nervous.
All those symptoms sound like withdrawal. I’ve had every one of them and I’m 110% sure I don’t have a hernia.

Nhbuck, you probably just overdid it today. I bet you dollars to doughnuts that you’ll be feeling better in a day or two. Maybe go easy on the dairy and sugar for a few days and see if that helps. Maybe take a walk tomorrow instead of a hike. I think a little exercise is good, but I know I feel weird If I do too much. Apparently vigorous hunting is too much right now. I hope you feel better soon.

Ashton devotees add sweating to list of 90,000,000 benzo withdrawal symptoms

The sweats
« on: December 06, 2017, 05:46:20 am »

[Buddie]

Does anybody else get terrible sweats while tapering?.. I’ve had them really badly to the point where I’m dripping and have to put a towel on my bed.

Anyone out there in the same boat?.. summer has started here so the heat doesn’t help..

Thanks

Re: The sweats
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2017, 01:17:41 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes, the sweats. Have had this problem for a long time.
Mostly during the nights when I try to sleep.

Wake up in a pool of sweat every night. We have the window open even if it’s winter here in Sweden.
I’m sweating like crazy. It’s a problem since I really need the sleep I can get. As so many of us here do.
I hope it will go away for us. Enough with sxs as it is.

Re: The sweats
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2017, 08:48:58 pm »

[Buddie]

When I first started cutting down I got the sweats at night. It was ridiculous… I would wake up and my hair would be soak along with my PJs. I’ve never done that. Always been a cold nature person. So far I haven’t had them anymore.

Re: The sweats
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2017, 09:04:53 pm »

[Buddie]

Last night I had really bad sweats! Woke up in the middle of the night and my t-shirt was soaking wet. Had to change my t-shirt and finally fell back asleep. Luckily for the rest of the night, no sweating! Weird!!

FEAR OF FRITOS

the frito failure
« on: November 23, 2017, 03:54:39 am »

[Buddie]

After being terrified of my favorite delicious snack for the last 9 months i decided it was time that i try to eat my fritos honey bbq twists once more. I was hoping that i would no longer be sensitive and was going to post a success story about how i ate the fritos with no ill effects.

i proceeded to become extremely drowsy fall asleep for 6 or so hours and have nightmares and woke up feeling all confused.

No success story for me :S

Re: the frito failure
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2017, 04:02:21 am »

[Buddie]

So sorry to hear that.

Re: the frito failure
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2017, 06:18:54 am »

[Buddie]

We don’t have those here in the UK but I looked them up and read the ingredients and they contain Monosodium Glutamate.

https://www.fritolay.com/snacks/product-page/fritos/fritos-flavor-twists-honey-bbq-flavored-corn-chips click the nutritional facts one.

MSG isn’t good for you even if you’re in good health, it’s a known to spike withdrawal symptoms too.

Avoid foods containing MSG, it’s also a common ingredient in Chinese food as well.

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=67426.0

Re: the frito failure
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2017, 07:34:27 pm »

[Buddie]

urgh sorry to hear about this, unreal how sensitive we are :(

the frito failure is catchy though….

i think ill call my experience the “coffee catastrophe”  …where a half cup of coffee kicked me into a massive wave, the effects of which im still feeling it seems like 2 months later

MASS HYSTERIA CAUSES BENZO BUDDIES BENZO BELLY OUTBREAK

I think My belly is gonna explode
« on: November 20, 2017, 08:52:42 pm »

[Buddie]

17 months i cant believe My belly is feeling more than pregnant it feels like its gonna explode….no matter what i did to get it better it hurts severe does this ever Gets better? 
Someone had this,this far out??

Re: I think My belly is gonna explode
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2017, 09:03:54 pm »

[Buddie]

My belly is sometimes filled of air very quickly like if it was an airbag blow in a crash ….

Re: I think My belly is gonna explode
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2017, 11:34:50 pm »

[Buddie]

Yep, 16.5 months off and still get a swollen belly during waves.

Re: I think My belly is gonna explode
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2017, 11:42:22 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m 16 months and have intense abdominal pressure and pain as I type this! Ugh!

Re: I think My belly is gonna explode
 « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2017, 04:56:48 am »

[Buddie]

20 months off in a week, and still dealing with this on and off. Tonight I feel like a bloated wood tick, tomorrow I could me flat Stanley again. It’s weird.

Re: I think My belly is gonna explode
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2017, 05:16:57 am »

[Buddie]

mine never goes away its severe and its not that i am fat its sticks out immensly……….it even hurts my back.
all this shit is for life lets be honest here

Addict turns benzo taper into lifelong career

Feel like I completely screwed myself and now feel hopeless
« on: November 20, 2017, 10:07:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I can’t help but feel like my failed Valium crossover and then all of the one off updoses that I very stupidly took to help me sleep have completely screwed me up. I’ve never felt so physically sick or mentally off. It’s unbearable I’m bed ridden and absolutely overwhelmed with terror and irrational thoughts 24/7. I don’t know what to do anymore I think I kindled myself so badly. I just wanted relief. This is my history:

Last year I did a daily liquid microtaper from February until November. I would liquefy one of my .5 mg tablets in 100 mL’s of milk and take our 1.2 mL’s a day until it was gone. So I got down to 1.5 mg’s around November of last year when I was slammed with symptoms/side effects and after seeking advice I decided to updose to 2 and then ultimately reinstate back at 2.5. This did not stabilize me at all and I wish more than anything I had just held at 1.5. In May of this year I had a failed Valium crossover. I then went back to 2.5 and tried a dry cut going extremely slow and only got from 2.5 to 2.375 cutting at a little less than 5% but I felt so terrible that I again went back to 2.5 and actually tried going to 3 mg’s for six days to see if I could get relief and did not so I then went back to 2.5 which is where I am now and have been for a few months with occasional 5 mg Valium updoses mixed in.

BENZO BELLY NIGHTMARES

Benzo Belly
« on: November 15, 2017, 04:33:52 am »

[Buddie]

Before I started my taper, I worked out every day, ate super healthy, and was in tip top shape. Standing at 5’8″, I weighed about 185 lbs, and was 7% body fat. Then I began my taper 9 months ago, and of course everything changed. During my 6 month taper, I could not work out, better yet even go walking. During that time period I gained 10 lbs (no help to the Remeron I was on for insomnia), and went from 7% body fat to about 30%. Yeah I know, all those years of hard work in the gym, I went from looking like a body builder to looking like I had the biggest beer belly ever. (all the body fat is basically in my abdominal region). I quit taking the Remeron 2 months ago, and I basically lost 25 lbs in 1 month. This was due to kicking Remeron and not eating at all for the 1st month in withdrawal. So anyways, I’ve been running for 30 mins a day, usually within the 3 mile range, and even been doing intermittent fasting. The problem is that I have only lost like 3 lbs total within the past 2 months, and I’ve been running every day and eating extremely healthy. It’s crazy because even though I weigh 160 lbs, my body fat is still around 20%. This is so frustrating because I’ve lost all this weight, but my body fat doesn’t seem to want to go away. I’m starting to blame benzo withdrawal for this and lack of sleep (you burn about 80 calories per hour when you sleep, and I’m dealing with am extreme case of insomnia). Has anyone else had trouble kicking body fat around the abdominal region, even with rigorous exercise? If so, how long was it before you started making some serious progress? Thank you!

Re: Benzo Belly
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2017, 10:45:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m surprised no one answered this, as I figured many people have the same problem. I’m old, 65 years, but I certainly felt the extra fat especially in my middle region, and had terrible benzo belly. It seemed as if I was lugging around extra fat all over. I especially gained weight right when my taper was over with. I don’t weigh myself, but at one point I weighed 116 according to the doctor’s scale. Then after tapering was finished I was weighed again, and I weighed 130! It seems that just recently I’ve noticed a change. My body is getting to the same level it was before benzos. I’m a very slow healer, though, and have had severe symptoms. I really think there must be something about benzos being stored in the muscles and fat. I’ve never had this before. I’m sure you’ll recover sooner and have the body you used to have!

FEAR OF BACON

Bacon
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:08:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone have any trouble with bacon when in pretty accute state? I really need to eat a piece of bacon… Please, any opinions good or bad.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 05:19:45 pm »

[Buddie]

I understand your query. True – I don’t have any problems now, but i’m 3.7 years out. When I was in acute, milk products kind of gave me loose stool (not quite diarrhea). I had a fair bit of reflux and a little bloating. It wasn’t terrible, but I did have some minor GI issues/food sensitivities. I could pretty easily treat those ‘issues’ (e.g. with OTC antacids) or I could just ignore them (e.g. loose stool). I only dropped one ‘food’ (an artificial sweetener that seemed to give me hot flashes followed by night sweats). But it’s true – GI issues weren’t as big a withdrawal symptom for me compared with some of the other symptoms (insomnia had to be my most debilitating symptom). Perhaps others will chime in about bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2017, 04:41:39 pm »

[Buddie]

There is uncured and no nitrate bacon.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 am by [Buddie] »

Re: Bacon
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:37 am »

[Buddie]

Guys slightly off topic, but I added coconut oil to my diet yesterday (and i am going to create a new thread for this). Now it did not seem to rev me up, that is I did not 30 mins later suddenly start panicking, or tiwtching or anything like that BUT it kind of made me extremely mellow… EXTREMELY, as if I just hit a fat green weed flavoured pegasus bong. Following this I have never felt so chilled, not in 5 weeks, sleepy and chilled and well calm… NOW im no scientist and I should probably be thankfull but im worried AF now. How cna that be. Does coconut oil mess with your GABA receptors? I think its good to have fats like coconut oil in your brain right for nerve healing, but whats up with that effect? Would you all be worried? IS coconut oil one of those foods that we should be avoiding like certain herbs that people avoid which interact with GABA? Any feelings on this? then we can go back to the bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 11:54:25 am »

[Buddie]

new girl do you weigh 42 kg’s? eish…. I may have some other issues rolled in though. doctors are sending me for MS screening. I am fine most days then out of the blue I get hit with these head symptoms, I become instantly dumb, feels like there is a block in the left side of my face, struggle to think and concentrate, get deeply detached and hazy. Very scary. I am hoping that is not he case. I was free of this best for 10 months, and then I took like 55 times the amount of vitmain b complex that a normal human should take per day for 3 days and suddenly anxiety started, then physical symptoms and now full on cognitive symptoms. So my problems are pretty huge right now. I dont know if this think is a benzo relapse, some kind of permanent damage from the high number of multivitamins I took (which in hindsight I have learned can actually do nerve damage) or some sort of MS attack. Very scary. I am HOPING like hell it is a just a benzo fall back and not MS or the multiple types of complications that vitamin hypertoxicity can cause. Its pretty scary. I’m pretty chilled by its a scary place. the fact that symptoms come and go tell me its very possibly a benzo wave. But it has lasted 5 weeks now with very little improvement if any. At least on the mental side. I think that I have just generally damaged my nervous system at this point, who knows.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 12:40:43 pm »

[Buddie]

Oh, […], I’m so sorry to hear you have these terrible symptoms, must be really tough! 

It’s good that you are seeing some doctors about this, even if they don’t find anything, it’s better to be reassured. I don’t have much experience with PAWS, as I am still tapering, so I don’t have much advice here, maybe you could also post in the Post-withdrawal support thread about this?

Just out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what did you take the vitamin b complex for? And how did you manage to obtain such a high dose?

Big hugs and all my strengths to you!!! I hope you’ll get soon over this!

Re: Bacon
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 12:58:29 pm »

[Buddie]

NewGirl,

I’m a complete idiot. it was a collection of vitamins that I had built up over probably the space of a year and a half. I got a mild headache and thought hey maybe I will just give myself a vitamin BOOST and that will clear it up. it was 6 different bottles. 3 were B-complexes, one was a Maxi-B, one was an iron and folate (which also had B vits), and the other 2 were multivitamins. All had B-complexes all of them basically. I had been healed for o long that withdrawal was no longer a part of my life, I was healed 100 percent. I never even thought ” hey this could trigger me” thats how war out and healed I was. I took all 6 pills each day for a few days, I might have even doubled up on one day. Im so embarrassed even typing this actually, its like i potentially threw my life away. the damage seems permanent and I seem VERY sensitive to foods, I think high vitamin b-6 foods. So i eat no meat. I am eating enough in my opinion to maintain my weight but alas it still drops at least 250 grams a day… SO in short, my issues may not even be benzo related, I may have simply poisoned my nervous system (potentially fatally), especially if I cant eat meat. Im basically holding on, hoping my weight doesnt drop to levels where they have to hospitalize as this would lead to medicating by doctors who dont understand benzo withdrawal let alone vitmain hypertoxicity. so I want to avoid that. You see, im not sure if this is maybe a benzo setback, GOD i hope it is NewGirl. then I know i have hope. If it is poisoning then I dont think I see the year out. Which I have made peace with actually. Its just my kids that worry me… My heart is breaking for my kids, one is 4 and the other is 4 months. All I can do is hold on. its so complicated, what if i get diagnosed with MS but it isnt MS and they treat me and it aggravates my potential benzo withdrawal further. What if it really is MS and they medicate me with steroids or something that I would obviously need but that is not compatible with my benzo history? Do I then live my whole life in withdrawal due to the medication that I need to live continuously triggering withdrawal? Its a complete mess. OR it is vitamin hyper toxicity and the doctors hospitalize me and pump me FULL of nutrients to help me pick up weight, including more B-vits thus doing more damage. SO Ja, I went from being in the absolute best position ever, healed from benzo withdrawal after just a month and a half (maybe 2 months) to basically the worst position that a mortal person could be in. I basically check mated myself. Apologies for the long respond and for killing the fun nature of the post.

And dont worry, surprisingly my mind is in the right place regardless of all of this, I am getting used to it. the thing that makes me worry that its not withdrawal but more just some kind of permanent toxicity damage to the nervous system is that it has reached a point where it just isnt improving at all. Im hoping something just happens and it begins to lift or fade with time, like the nerve damage can magically heal over time. But in the mean time im not sure what to eat and what to avoid so as to fascilitate this repair. Real tough. I live with a lot of powerful anxiety which is not in the mind but in the nervous system, if you have withdrawn from benzos then you know what that feels like, I have detachment, fear, pain in limbs, tired limbs. So unbelievable, and I was a new man, healed, new house, new kid, beautiful wife. All pretty much on its way out. Tough one.

Apologies again 

Klonopin eater goes on hate-filled doctor-bashing rant

Is the System evil or ignorant?
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:44:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Is anyone else ANGRY at the doctor who turned you into a drug addict? I submit that most doctors ignorantly believe if patients take their meds as prescribed, there won’t be any issues. Here’s the problem: Your brain doesn’t give a flying f%@$ about US law or what your doctor thinks. All it knows is that it’s regularly been influenced by a powerful psychoactive and it wants more. We’re every bit as much an addict as anyone else, and our addiction can actually kill if you just stop taking it. It also creates the longest and most horrific withdrawal known to man. (I’ve confirmed this with heroin addicts, alcoholics, meth addicts, anyone who has been through a withdrawal). Heroin addicts feel sorry for me! No one is taking responsibility for ruining lives by the million in the name of the almighty dollar.

Pharmaceutical companies send hot girls to doctors offices to persuade them to hand out their drugs. Wtf?! Our society is so brainwashed by the DSM-V, thinking about which acronym fits them because life sucks sometimes for everyone but there has to be something wrong with you. ADHD, OCD, PTSD, GAD, MDD…choose a f@$!ing acronym so you can become a lifetime customer.

We’ve all gone through he’ll because our doctor’s either didn’t know or didn’t care what they were doing. Our society gives so much reverence to doctors…we trust them implicitly because they went to med school. My doctor literally opened Web MD when prescribing my klonopin. They’re not f@$&ING special, they’re human beings just like anyone. They are succeptible to greed and the powers that be are so god damned cocky they don’t even attempt to hide the fact that the people we trust with our health are being bribed by drug companies. Doctors who prescribe things they don’t understand have betrayed the public trust and should be dealt with accordingly. They’re drug dealers…in every sense of the word. We have a war on drugs that imprisons people for smoking a plant while the system were supposed to trust is getting us hooked on the drugs they can profit from.

Anyone who has suffered as I have suffered must surely feel the same injustice. I got out of the military after serving honorably for 6 years…I told my doctor I didn’t feel quite right. Then I was a drug addict. Klonopin took everything in my life. I barely survived it….and that piece of shit probably did the same thing to someone today.

No one should ever go through what I’ve been through. Helping people who are suffering with hope and advise is great, but shouldn’t we be doing something to stop the system that put us here? The average person has no idea what a benzo is…if they tell their doctor they’ve been anxious lately, chances are they’re gonna join our ranks. How do we save those people?