BENZO BELLY NIGHTMARES

Benzo Belly
« on: November 15, 2017, 04:33:52 am »

[Buddie]

Before I started my taper, I worked out every day, ate super healthy, and was in tip top shape. Standing at 5’8″, I weighed about 185 lbs, and was 7% body fat. Then I began my taper 9 months ago, and of course everything changed. During my 6 month taper, I could not work out, better yet even go walking. During that time period I gained 10 lbs (no help to the Remeron I was on for insomnia), and went from 7% body fat to about 30%. Yeah I know, all those years of hard work in the gym, I went from looking like a body builder to looking like I had the biggest beer belly ever. (all the body fat is basically in my abdominal region). I quit taking the Remeron 2 months ago, and I basically lost 25 lbs in 1 month. This was due to kicking Remeron and not eating at all for the 1st month in withdrawal. So anyways, I’ve been running for 30 mins a day, usually within the 3 mile range, and even been doing intermittent fasting. The problem is that I have only lost like 3 lbs total within the past 2 months, and I’ve been running every day and eating extremely healthy. It’s crazy because even though I weigh 160 lbs, my body fat is still around 20%. This is so frustrating because I’ve lost all this weight, but my body fat doesn’t seem to want to go away. I’m starting to blame benzo withdrawal for this and lack of sleep (you burn about 80 calories per hour when you sleep, and I’m dealing with am extreme case of insomnia). Has anyone else had trouble kicking body fat around the abdominal region, even with rigorous exercise? If so, how long was it before you started making some serious progress? Thank you!

Re: Benzo Belly
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2017, 10:45:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I’m surprised no one answered this, as I figured many people have the same problem. I’m old, 65 years, but I certainly felt the extra fat especially in my middle region, and had terrible benzo belly. It seemed as if I was lugging around extra fat all over. I especially gained weight right when my taper was over with. I don’t weigh myself, but at one point I weighed 116 according to the doctor’s scale. Then after tapering was finished I was weighed again, and I weighed 130! It seems that just recently I’ve noticed a change. My body is getting to the same level it was before benzos. I’m a very slow healer, though, and have had severe symptoms. I really think there must be something about benzos being stored in the muscles and fat. I’ve never had this before. I’m sure you’ll recover sooner and have the body you used to have!

FEAR OF BACON

Bacon
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:08:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone have any trouble with bacon when in pretty accute state? I really need to eat a piece of bacon… Please, any opinions good or bad.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 05:19:45 pm »

[Buddie]

I understand your query. True – I don’t have any problems now, but i’m 3.7 years out. When I was in acute, milk products kind of gave me loose stool (not quite diarrhea). I had a fair bit of reflux and a little bloating. It wasn’t terrible, but I did have some minor GI issues/food sensitivities. I could pretty easily treat those ‘issues’ (e.g. with OTC antacids) or I could just ignore them (e.g. loose stool). I only dropped one ‘food’ (an artificial sweetener that seemed to give me hot flashes followed by night sweats). But it’s true – GI issues weren’t as big a withdrawal symptom for me compared with some of the other symptoms (insomnia had to be my most debilitating symptom). Perhaps others will chime in about bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2017, 04:41:39 pm »

[Buddie]

There is uncured and no nitrate bacon.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 am by [Buddie] »

Re: Bacon
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:37 am »

[Buddie]

Guys slightly off topic, but I added coconut oil to my diet yesterday (and i am going to create a new thread for this). Now it did not seem to rev me up, that is I did not 30 mins later suddenly start panicking, or tiwtching or anything like that BUT it kind of made me extremely mellow… EXTREMELY, as if I just hit a fat green weed flavoured pegasus bong. Following this I have never felt so chilled, not in 5 weeks, sleepy and chilled and well calm… NOW im no scientist and I should probably be thankfull but im worried AF now. How cna that be. Does coconut oil mess with your GABA receptors? I think its good to have fats like coconut oil in your brain right for nerve healing, but whats up with that effect? Would you all be worried? IS coconut oil one of those foods that we should be avoiding like certain herbs that people avoid which interact with GABA? Any feelings on this? then we can go back to the bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 11:54:25 am »

[Buddie]

new girl do you weigh 42 kg’s? eish…. I may have some other issues rolled in though. doctors are sending me for MS screening. I am fine most days then out of the blue I get hit with these head symptoms, I become instantly dumb, feels like there is a block in the left side of my face, struggle to think and concentrate, get deeply detached and hazy. Very scary. I am hoping that is not he case. I was free of this best for 10 months, and then I took like 55 times the amount of vitmain b complex that a normal human should take per day for 3 days and suddenly anxiety started, then physical symptoms and now full on cognitive symptoms. So my problems are pretty huge right now. I dont know if this think is a benzo relapse, some kind of permanent damage from the high number of multivitamins I took (which in hindsight I have learned can actually do nerve damage) or some sort of MS attack. Very scary. I am HOPING like hell it is a just a benzo fall back and not MS or the multiple types of complications that vitamin hypertoxicity can cause. Its pretty scary. I’m pretty chilled by its a scary place. the fact that symptoms come and go tell me its very possibly a benzo wave. But it has lasted 5 weeks now with very little improvement if any. At least on the mental side. I think that I have just generally damaged my nervous system at this point, who knows.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 12:40:43 pm »

[Buddie]

Oh, […], I’m so sorry to hear you have these terrible symptoms, must be really tough! 

It’s good that you are seeing some doctors about this, even if they don’t find anything, it’s better to be reassured. I don’t have much experience with PAWS, as I am still tapering, so I don’t have much advice here, maybe you could also post in the Post-withdrawal support thread about this?

Just out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what did you take the vitamin b complex for? And how did you manage to obtain such a high dose?

Big hugs and all my strengths to you!!! I hope you’ll get soon over this!

Re: Bacon
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 12:58:29 pm »

[Buddie]

NewGirl,

I’m a complete idiot. it was a collection of vitamins that I had built up over probably the space of a year and a half. I got a mild headache and thought hey maybe I will just give myself a vitamin BOOST and that will clear it up. it was 6 different bottles. 3 were B-complexes, one was a Maxi-B, one was an iron and folate (which also had B vits), and the other 2 were multivitamins. All had B-complexes all of them basically. I had been healed for o long that withdrawal was no longer a part of my life, I was healed 100 percent. I never even thought ” hey this could trigger me” thats how war out and healed I was. I took all 6 pills each day for a few days, I might have even doubled up on one day. Im so embarrassed even typing this actually, its like i potentially threw my life away. the damage seems permanent and I seem VERY sensitive to foods, I think high vitamin b-6 foods. So i eat no meat. I am eating enough in my opinion to maintain my weight but alas it still drops at least 250 grams a day… SO in short, my issues may not even be benzo related, I may have simply poisoned my nervous system (potentially fatally), especially if I cant eat meat. Im basically holding on, hoping my weight doesnt drop to levels where they have to hospitalize as this would lead to medicating by doctors who dont understand benzo withdrawal let alone vitmain hypertoxicity. so I want to avoid that. You see, im not sure if this is maybe a benzo setback, GOD i hope it is NewGirl. then I know i have hope. If it is poisoning then I dont think I see the year out. Which I have made peace with actually. Its just my kids that worry me… My heart is breaking for my kids, one is 4 and the other is 4 months. All I can do is hold on. its so complicated, what if i get diagnosed with MS but it isnt MS and they treat me and it aggravates my potential benzo withdrawal further. What if it really is MS and they medicate me with steroids or something that I would obviously need but that is not compatible with my benzo history? Do I then live my whole life in withdrawal due to the medication that I need to live continuously triggering withdrawal? Its a complete mess. OR it is vitamin hyper toxicity and the doctors hospitalize me and pump me FULL of nutrients to help me pick up weight, including more B-vits thus doing more damage. SO Ja, I went from being in the absolute best position ever, healed from benzo withdrawal after just a month and a half (maybe 2 months) to basically the worst position that a mortal person could be in. I basically check mated myself. Apologies for the long respond and for killing the fun nature of the post.

And dont worry, surprisingly my mind is in the right place regardless of all of this, I am getting used to it. the thing that makes me worry that its not withdrawal but more just some kind of permanent toxicity damage to the nervous system is that it has reached a point where it just isnt improving at all. Im hoping something just happens and it begins to lift or fade with time, like the nerve damage can magically heal over time. But in the mean time im not sure what to eat and what to avoid so as to fascilitate this repair. Real tough. I live with a lot of powerful anxiety which is not in the mind but in the nervous system, if you have withdrawn from benzos then you know what that feels like, I have detachment, fear, pain in limbs, tired limbs. So unbelievable, and I was a new man, healed, new house, new kid, beautiful wife. All pretty much on its way out. Tough one.

Apologies again 

Klonopin eater goes on hate-filled doctor-bashing rant

Is the System evil or ignorant?
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:44:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Is anyone else ANGRY at the doctor who turned you into a drug addict? I submit that most doctors ignorantly believe if patients take their meds as prescribed, there won’t be any issues. Here’s the problem: Your brain doesn’t give a flying f%@$ about US law or what your doctor thinks. All it knows is that it’s regularly been influenced by a powerful psychoactive and it wants more. We’re every bit as much an addict as anyone else, and our addiction can actually kill if you just stop taking it. It also creates the longest and most horrific withdrawal known to man. (I’ve confirmed this with heroin addicts, alcoholics, meth addicts, anyone who has been through a withdrawal). Heroin addicts feel sorry for me! No one is taking responsibility for ruining lives by the million in the name of the almighty dollar.

Pharmaceutical companies send hot girls to doctors offices to persuade them to hand out their drugs. Wtf?! Our society is so brainwashed by the DSM-V, thinking about which acronym fits them because life sucks sometimes for everyone but there has to be something wrong with you. ADHD, OCD, PTSD, GAD, MDD…choose a f@$!ing acronym so you can become a lifetime customer.

We’ve all gone through he’ll because our doctor’s either didn’t know or didn’t care what they were doing. Our society gives so much reverence to doctors…we trust them implicitly because they went to med school. My doctor literally opened Web MD when prescribing my klonopin. They’re not f@$&ING special, they’re human beings just like anyone. They are succeptible to greed and the powers that be are so god damned cocky they don’t even attempt to hide the fact that the people we trust with our health are being bribed by drug companies. Doctors who prescribe things they don’t understand have betrayed the public trust and should be dealt with accordingly. They’re drug dealers…in every sense of the word. We have a war on drugs that imprisons people for smoking a plant while the system were supposed to trust is getting us hooked on the drugs they can profit from.

Anyone who has suffered as I have suffered must surely feel the same injustice. I got out of the military after serving honorably for 6 years…I told my doctor I didn’t feel quite right. Then I was a drug addict. Klonopin took everything in my life. I barely survived it….and that piece of shit probably did the same thing to someone today.

No one should ever go through what I’ve been through. Helping people who are suffering with hope and advise is great, but shouldn’t we be doing something to stop the system that put us here? The average person has no idea what a benzo is…if they tell their doctor they’ve been anxious lately, chances are they’re gonna join our ranks. How do we save those people?

Benzo Buddies scored as a Hypochondriac Heaven

Are there hypochondriacs on this forum?
« on: August 28, 2017, 12:58:21 am »

[Buddie]

Yes, stopping benzos is not easy but my experience is that it was not as bad as I was made to believe. I think some people on this forum are hypochondriacs. Do people really feel withdrawal a year later? I’m not buying it. Do you really need to taper for years? I doubt it.

Benzo Buddies: Flea spray affects GABA

Please help, desperate, got fleas in house but flea spray affects GABA
« on: August 08, 2017, 09:50:04 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello

My friend brought his dog in my flat and the dog has left fleas, ive been bitten.
I’ve tried vaccumming, but I am so depressed and anxious and stressed about other things including withdrawal that I only have the energy to vaccuumm part of a room a day, ,whereas to get rid of the fleas, eggs and larvae you either have to vaccuum every day for a week or use flea spray with insect growth regulator in.
The problem with these substances is that they all have chemicals in which, on doing research, affect gaba in a bad way, I wont ramble.
I even tried to find a respirator online so that I did not breathe in any of the vapours, but there is so much choice that I am totally confused as to which respirator to buy to prevent me inhaling the fumes of the flea spray, as you have to keep windows shut while it works when you spray.
Has anyone ever used any of the strong flea sprays in withdrawal?
Did they react with you in a bad way?
I am desperate to hear of anyone’s experience with these flea sprays, they worked for me when i wasnt on valium but I am scared to use them given what I have read online about them interacting with GABA.
Thanks