TERROR AT TESCO

I went to TESCO today!
« on: January 02, 2018, 05:19:06 pm »

[Buddie]

In the car!! By myself!!!

I haven’t been able to go there to do any shopping at all for months and the whole ‘online shopping and getting someone to get bits and pieces in between’ has become so stressful I decided that was one of the first things I was going to try and do when I felt stronger.

Last night I had a better sleep and felt half-decent after lunch so decided to have a go.  I haven’t been able to drive on the main roads outwith the housing estate but thankfully TESCO is about 10-15 minutes away from the house but still within the estate.  However even if I get there, I can’t go in the normal way because there are traffic lights and I seem to freak out if I get ‘trapped’ anywhere like a queue or a busy roundabout or lights.  And then I figured out I could maybe park in the staff car park round the back which is reached via a side street before the main entrance to TESCO and means I don’t have to negotiate any traffic lights at all so that’s what I did today.  And then did a LOT of deep breathing in order to get out of the car and make it to the front entrance!

But make it I did.  I grabbed two filled rolls, two salads and 4 yoghurts, saw an empty checkout and tried not to hyperventilate going through it.  There was a Holland and Barrett shop in the same complex so I popped in there afterwards and got some papaya and pineapple as a snack treat then stopped at the cash machine on the way back to the car to get money out as well.  Three things I would have had to ask someone to do for me normally.

And I discovered the other good thing about the staff car park is that it’s pretty quiet so I was able to give a whoop of delight when I got back to the car without any men in white coats appearing to take me somewhere padded :laugh:

And then I took the car for a 10 minute run which involved going onto one of the main roads which did produce a mild panic attack but I was able to calm myself down once I turned off into a side street.

Now that’s a big deal for me because whenever the panic has started before when I’ve done something like that, it’s always just got worse and worse and no amount of breathing exercises or calming strategies have worked in the slightest.  As you can imagine, being the driver in a car when that happens and still having to have a 20 minute journey to get back home makes that a frightening experience and results in eventual avoidance.  So the fact that I seem to now be able to become calmer while still IN the car says to me that my brain is very definitely healing and reduces the terrible fear factor somewhat.  Well it reduces it in theory ……  ;D

Once home, I popped the shopping in the fridge and took myself off for a walk to celebrate.  Possibly being the only human being on the streets, it being a very wet and windy afternoon but you know how it is – you feel better and you just want to do some ‘normal’ stuff for a change.

I was able to go much further away from the house than I normally do although timewise my walk was only 5 minutes longer than yesterday’s but it was much more of a WALK if you know what I mean.  Yesterday I was tootling around the lanes and paths very close to my house and eking out the walk to give me a decent time – today I was properly walking on the pavements at a good pace and being ‘normal’ tired rather than ‘scared’ tired.

Which of course means I am now knackered, feel terrible and could go off to bed right this minute!! :laugh:

Still it’s nice to put a tick (for a window) in the notebook where I’m keeping track of what I take and how I feel on a daily basis instead of a cross because there’s been somewhat of an abundance of crosses lately :-\

Good start to the year eh?

Confused addict wakes up in cult, misery to follow

Re: Anxiety at 4 p.m. every day
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2017, 07:55:50 pm »

[Buddie]

I need desperately to talk to someone about how to navigate this forum. I also notice that most of the posts I read are often many, many years old. What’s up with that? I also had a question about any updated versions [other than the 2011 supplement] of the Ashton Manual or something similar. Has there really been hardly anything new discovered or able to be shared that can help those of us who are suffering so badly? I have so many questions and would really like to speak to someone who might be able to help me. Like I said, navigating this forum is very difficult for me. I am not as literate as I’d like to be with it, plus the drugs during surgery and the benzo’s have really messed up my cognitive abilities. I used to be really “sharp.” I had gotten off of Klonopin and onto Valium June 25, 2017 and then tapered from 12 mg. Valium to “0” on Sept 1, 2017. My body was burning the whole time from 9/1/17 to 11/15/17 and then progressed rapidly to almost total sleeplessness and “acid” burning over my whole body and inside every “cavity” in the body. All my bones hurt and everything the dr.’s tried me on did not help: Gabapentin, Trazadone, Hydroxyzine, muscle relaxants, sleep aids, Beta-blockers, etc. I couldn’t even move anymore and was literally dying. Dr. put me back on 10 mg. valium, but I instantly dropped it down to 6.25 mg. I take 5 mg. to sleep at night and .25 first thing in the morning. I desperately want to get off this “poison,” but am literally scared to death! I was told later by a doctor at the Urgent Care I visited that I tapered wayyyyyy too fast. He said he advises his patients to take at least a half a year. I did my 12 mg. taper a little over 2 months. I suffered while tapering, but thought that was all part of the process. I am really ignorant when it comes to supplements, medications and drugs. I didn’t use them. I ate very healthy and even taught health and nutrition. I am told by a new neuropsychologist and all the past doctors that the drugs during surgery [anethethesia, antibiotics, or pain meds such as morphine, oxycodone, etc.] messed up my mind and then all the benzo’s and antidepressants [including Mirtazepine] they tried without success, all added to the attack on my poor brain. Now I am still suffering from a very sensitive brain response and increasing depression because of all of this mess, but see no way to get out of it. How can I taper when I am feeling so very badly? Are my symptoms from the benzo withdrawal? The Mirtazepine withdrawal [did this along with the benzo withdrawal–a big “no-no” I am finding out later]? Or is my brain permanently messed up due to the drugs at surgery? Since I don’t know, I am confused as to what to do. Any thoughts? Can someone please at least tell me how to navigate the forum and at least be willing to answer any questions about it if there is nothing you can help me with about my physical/mental condition post-surgery/benzo/antidepressant?

Please, please help me.
Thanks,
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Benzo Buddies cult orders member NOT to attend grandmother’s funeral

Advice of rescue pill do or dont.
« on: December 27, 2017, 10:16:54 am »

[Buddie]

Does a 5 mg of Valium destroy my w/d ? I am benzo free since 1 of October 2017. I am going to a funeral and I have a hard w/d.
Is zoplicone as bad as benzo? I need to sleep the night before the funeral.
If i take one of them will I be back to zero and has to do all crap again

Re: Advice of rescue pill do or dont.
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2017, 12:51:08 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on December 27, 2017, 10:16:54 am
Does a 5 mg of Valium destroy my w/d ? I am benzo free since 1 of October 2017. I am going to a funeral and I have a hard w/d.
Is zoplicone as bad as benzo? I need to sleep the night before the funeral.
If i take one of them will I be back to zero and has to do all crap again

Please don’t reinstate. You have three months of very hard work – the worst period –
behind you now. Taking any risk with that is definitely not something to take lightly and it is most certainly not in your best interests.

You do not have to go to any event, funeral or otherwise; put your recovery first. Not only are you ‘entitled’ to put yourself first, it is imperative that you do so, for your own benefit and the benefit of others who are dear to you.

In time, there will be plenty of opportunity to ‘make up for’ your absences and inabilities of this current period, when your mind is clear, your abilities and capabilites have returned and external activities have become an easy, ordinary thing to do, once again.

I had to miss my son’s wedding for similar reasons and (at the time) suffer the ignominy of my own embarrassment which resulted from that, along with those ‘confirming’ feelings of utter helplessness that also arose from it. (That’s not to mention my second-guessing the uninformed assessments of others and “what they must have thought of me”…) However, my abilities and circumstances now are very different and I am the living proof to others, to myself and now, hopefully, you, that very careful management of your condition has to be your first priority and that no one else can do it for you.

Re: Advice of rescue pill do or dont.
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2017, 01:17:17 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on December 27, 2017, 12:51:08 pm
Quote from: [Buddie] on December 27, 2017, 10:16:54 am
Does a 5 mg of Valium destroy my w/d ? I am benzo free since 1 of October 2017. I am going to a funeral and I have a hard w/d.
Is zoplicone as bad as benzo? I need to sleep the night before the funeral.
If i take one of them will I be back to zero and has to do all crap again

Please don’t reinstate. You have three months of very hard work – the worst period –
behind you now. Taking any risk with that is definitely not something to take lightly and it is most certainly not in your best interests.

You do not have to go to any event, funeral or otherwise; put your recovery first. Not only are you ‘entitled’ to put yourself first, it is imperative that you do so, for your own benefit and the benefit of others who are dear to you.

In time, there will be plenty of opportunity to ‘make up for’ your absences and inabilities of this current period, when your mind is clear, your abilities and capabilites have returned and external activities have become an easy, ordinary thing to do, once again.

I had to miss my son’s wedding for similar reasons and (at the time) suffer the ignominy of my own embarrassment which resulted from that, along with those ‘confirming’ feelings of utter helplessness that also arose from it. (That’s not to mention my second-guessing the uninformed assessments of others and “what they must have thought of me”…) However, my abilities and circumstances now are very different and I am the living proof to others, to myself and now, hopefully, you, that very careful management of your condition has to be your first priority and that no one else can do it for you.


Yes, you are so right.. It is my grand mothers funeral. It makes me so sad. Feels like I am in a mental prision.
I was taking a glass of Baileys last weekend and I start to feel anxiety after that….So no more alcihol

Kooks add soy sauce, sushi, olives with (or without) garlic, MSG to list of forbidden foods

Soy Sauce????
« on: December 24, 2017, 04:45:50 pm »

[Buddie]

I was reading about “kindling”. It talked about the overproduction of glutamate. Soy sauce has glutamate. I ate sushi last night with tamari & this morning had a bad episode of symptoms (weak & shaky legs, distended stomach, blurry vision). Any correlation??

Re: Soy Sauce????
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2017, 05:29:33 pm »

[Buddie]

No clue I ate some green olives with garlic and immediately had issues be I don’t know why

Re: Soy Sauce????
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2017, 06:30:52 pm »

[Buddie]

Tons of MSG in both Sushi at a lot of places, and soy sauce, which also contributes to glutamate.

Re: Soy Sauce????
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2017, 04:30:53 am »

[Buddie]

MSG is a major trigger for many people during withdrawal, and soy sauce is really high in it. Yes, there is definitely a correlation between MSG and waves.

Re: Soy Sauce????
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2017, 06:26:14 am »

[Buddie]

Absolutely! Even now, almost 10 months off, if I were to consume soy sauce, it would get real ugly, real fast.