It’s okay to bash doctors at Benzo Buddies but not okay to point out members suffer from Munchausen

Re: proposed munchausian circle jerk emoji ?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2017, 02:04:17 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 10, 2017, 06:39:01 am
I joined on to this forum 2 days ago during what appeared to me, to be a protracted w/d issue.
I found comfort in many of the heart felt dialogues.
However,
It has occurred to me, for some, it may be a munchausian circle jerk.

I sincerely hope that is not the case, as it would seriously muddy the waters for people truly seeking specific help.
If it is, I propose the construction of a new emoji to express this case so that this concept can self regulate.

I hope I don’t get banned for saying so.

Hello,

I know you’re new here, but there are some things about this forum it’s important for you to understand.  This is a very serious forum and it’s not a free for all. We have Rules and Guidelines here which we take seriously.  You agreed to abide by them when you joined, and one of the simplest but most important ones is:

Be polite towards, and respectful of, your fellow Buddies. We do not tolerate attacks upon fellow members. Any account created for the purposes of causing arguments and/or ill-feeling, will be banned.

We expect members to behave like adults, and not pass judgments on others or start arguments.  If someone else’s post bothers you, please just move on.  We take a very dim view of provocateurs here.  Many members are highly sensitive during withdrawal, hyper-sensitivity is itself a withdrawal symptom, and even something as simple as a “humorous” emoji may be considered offensive by some.  Here is a link to the rest of our

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Benzo Buddies members suffer from Munchausen by Internet

Munchausen by Internet

Munchausen by Internet is a pattern of behavior akin to the Munchausen syndrome (a psychiatric factitious disorder wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy, or reassurance to themselves) in which Internet users seek attention by feigning illnesses in online venues such as chat rooms, message boards, and Internet Relay Chat (IRC). It has been described in medical literature as a manifestation of factitious disorderor factitious disorder by proxy.[1] Reports of users who deceive Internet forum participants by portraying themselves as gravely ill or as victims of violence first appeared in the 1990s due to the relative newness of Internet communications. The pattern was identified in 1998 by psychiatrist Marc Feldman, who created the term “Münchausen by Internet” in 2000.

People who demonstrate factitious disorders often claim to have physical ailments or be recovering from the consequences of stalking, victimization, harassment, and sexual abuse. Several behaviors present themselves to suggest factors beyond genuine problems. After studying 21 cases of deception, Feldman listed the following common behavior patterns in people who exhibited Munchausen by Internet:

  • Medical literature from websites or textbooks is often duplicated or discussed in great detail.
  • The length and severity of purported physical ailments conflicts with user behavior. Feldman uses the example of someone posting in considerable detail about being in septic shock, when such a possibility is extremely unlikely.
  • Symptoms of ailments may be exaggerated as they correspond to a user’s misunderstanding of the nature of an illness.
  • Grave situations and increasingly critical prognoses are interspersed with “miraculous” recoveries.
  • A user’s posts eventually reveal contradictory information or claims that are implausible: for example, other users of a forum may find that a user has been divulging contradictory information about occurrence or length of hospital visits.
  • When attention and sympathy decreases to focus on other members of the group, a user may announce that other dire events have transpired, including the illness or death of a close family member.
  • When faced with insufficient expressions of attention or sympathy, a forum member claims this as a cause that symptoms worsen or do not improve.
  • A user resists contact beyond the Internet, by telephone or personal visit, often claiming bizarre reasons for not being able to accept such contact.
  • Further emergencies are described with inappropriate happiness, designed to garner immediate reactions.
  • The posts of other forum members exhibit identical writing styles, spelling errors, and language idiosyncrasies, suggesting that the user has created fictitious identities to move the conversation in their direction.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet

proposed munchausian circle jerk emoji ?
« on: May 10, 2017, 06:39:01 am »

[Buddie]

I joined on to this forum 2 days ago during what appeared to me, to be a protracted w/d issue.
I found comfort in many of the heart felt dialogues.
However,
It has occurred to me, for some, it may be a munchausian circle jerk.

I sincerely hope that is not the case, as it would seriously muddy the waters for people truly seeking specific help.
If it is, I propose the construction of a new emoji to express this case so that this concept can self regulate.

I hope I don’t get banned for saying so.

Kooks complain reputation of being lunatics impossible to shake, decry lack of progress against Big Pharma

I am told cult members are trying to figure out how to be activists i.e. doctor-bashing nutcases and not appear insane doing so.

Good luck.

Brainwashed cult member willing to cancel surgery based on ravings of doctor-hating old woman

Surgery
« on: April 26, 2017, 07:28:52 pm »

[Buddie]

May 9 I’m supposed to have surgery on my left ankle, and they will be using general anesthesia to sedate me during the surgery. I’m 12.5 months out since jumping and still very symptomatic. Cog fog, headaches, balance issues seem to be the most intolerable of my current symptoms, and I’m worried that the drugs they use to sedate me will set me back and potentially make me worse. I was wondering if anyone has any experience with surgery during the recovery phase and if it had any adverse effect on their brain? I will cancel the surgery if needed. I don’t want any setbacks.

Re: Surgery
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 07:32:04 pm »

[Buddie]

I would like to know this too. I hope somebody will have some answers for you.
Love and healing
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Kooky Monday: Benzo Buddies attacks Mad in America as being TOO anti-psychiatry

Re: "Big pharma MD's killed my father"
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2017, 05:58:57 pm »

[Buddie]

My dad had the same symptoms as the dad posted here. He never takes drugs, and it was a hospital visit for dehydration that turned into pneumonia and he died. He was a doctor and always told me as a kid, if you want to kill yourself, just check into a hospital. So that warning turned out to be true. BTW, I believe he was beginning to suffer from Dementia even before he went to the ER…..And his wife was his advocate, as well as an NR. Sometimes I think MiA is bit much.

Re: "Big pharma MD's killed my father"
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2017, 08:30:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on March 04, 2017, 05:58:57 pm
My dad had the same symptoms as the dad posted here. He never takes drugs, and it was a hospital visit for dehydration that turned into pneumonia and he died. He was a doctor and always told me as a kid, if you want to kill yourself, just check into a hospital. So that warning turned out to be true. BTW, I believe he was beginning to suffer from Dementia even before he went to the ER…..And his wife was his advocate, as well as an NR. Sometimes I think MiA is bit much.

I concur. Sometimes MiA is way too much. There are a lot of professionals there speaking out about the dangers of these meds, but some of these professionals used to be conventional psychiatrists who prescribed a lot of these same medications in the past, and then got disillusioned with their field and adopted a different stance. It is good to see differing opinions, but this is all way too confusing to an average person in a situation like this. Some MiA articles sure cause a lot of cognitive dissonance in both doctors and patients. I guess, I just don’t like the absolutist stance on issues such as medications.

Heck, even Dr. Peter Breggin used to prescribe Librium during his psychiatric residency. Obviously, even he must have believed that psychopharmacology worked before he became medication skeptical…..

I notice a trend of a lot of antidepressant bashing over at the MiA. I wonder if that is because there is a little less stigma and controversy about antidepressants then about some other psychotropics. I don’t advocate antidepressant use, but I find it interesting how much antidepressant backlash there has been in the last 20 years, while the other meds were hardly being even mentioned. While so many were bashing Prozac and Zoloft, people were being prescribed Lamictal, Trileptal, Risperdal, Tegretol, Zyprexa, Ativan, Xanax, Klonopin, Gabapentin, Seroquel. Just saying…..

It makes me wonder how many people looked at the anti-depressant backlash, and kept thinking “Why should I take antidepressants when anti-anxiety meds have been there for years, and I am more anxious than depressed?” It is very easy to get into that sort of mindset. I think Robert Whitaker correctly points out that people are terribly confused about psych meds due to all these different schools of thought.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2017, 02:29:52 am by [Buddie] »

Mad in America & Benzo Buddies team up to attack doctors, spread lunacy

“My father and mother, Genevieve, had a happy marriage of 39 years, until our mom (13 years his junior) passed away in 2009 of a brain tumor, likely brought on by the vaccines she’d received over the years, and the root canals, and the mercury fillings, and the nutrient-depleted food that she (like most Americans) had ingested over the years…

"Big pharma MD's killed my father"
« on: March 01, 2017, 01:59:29 am »

[Buddie]

This is something that everyone with access to medical care should read. A very sad story and a reminder that we are all still vulnerable to another medical mess if we cannot speak for ourselves in the emergency room setting. I think we all need to get medical alert bracelets and always wear them as i dont see any other way to make sure that this never happens again…

https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/02/big-pharma-medical-doctors-killed-my-father/

Cult member vows to die rather than take psychiatric medication

and there are some who will never make it
« on: February 14, 2017, 06:41:59 pm »

[Buddie]

like me. i am addicted to 20 mg librium and 30 mg domperidone and 15 mg mirtazapine. domperidone, for me, crosses the blood-brain barrier and i have failed quitting it twice. it works as an antipsychotic for me.

i was an alcoholic for 10 years and stopped drinking 6 months ago. i’ve fallen into depression every month since. but my current episode of depression beats all expectations. i have been depressed for 20 days and with unrelenting depression.

i met a psychiatrist today. he wants me to start lamictal and increase my benzio to 30 mg librium. my foot!

i will die depressed than take any other psychiatric medicine.

please help!