Planning a half-decade long taper

5 year plan
« on: January 12, 2019, 03:14:11 am »

[Buddie]

Hello,

Since I am not looking to take this fast at all because I want to take it slowly is it absurd to want to take 2 to 3 years to be totally off my klonopin. I take 3 mg a day and have been for about 14 years. I guess I am looking at this differently then a lot of people. Since I don’t want to suffer major withdrawals I probably am going to set a goal to be at 2mg of klonopin a day within the next 365 days. Then after that I will work on trying to get to 1mg a day maybe in year two. I have been on this garbage for 14 years so what’s 2 years of dropping 2mg. I know that isn’t a lot at alll but hopefully my doctor will work with me and understand. Does anybody else out there have an approach like this or am I just a newbie that will probably change my mind. I just don’t want to suffer any withdrawal and if I just go with what my body tells me and don’t set a end date then I believe my success rate will be better

Re: 5 year plan
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 02:54:39 pm »

[Buddie]

I see nothing wrong with your approach. Dates and time lines need to be thrown out the window, along with % based tapers.

It takes as long as it takes. With the right taper method, and as long as one tapers based on symptoms, the process doesn’t have to be harrowing, rather manageable.

Member with 30 terrifying symptoms gets no help from Benzo Buddies ghouls who forced him into dangerous micro-taper

please help me - paradoxical?
« on: December 13, 2018, 03:39:59 am »

[Buddie]

I know I’ve reached out to a lot of you and it seems I almost have an allergy to this class of meds. I was only on klonipin for 2.5 weeks in May during some neuro testing for numbness, tingling and spasms. Tests for MRI and EMG came back ok. I then wanted to stop the klonipin because I felt flat and irritable and was only sleeping until 7:30. I was told to cold turkey per my doctor and had a panic attack and burning. My doc then immediately moved me to Ativan starting at 1 mg and then moving up to 1.5 and 1.75 for one night. I weaned down to 1 mg and held for a month but had horrible inter-dose withdrawal. I was dropping 25% a week and got violently ill (vomiting, light sensitivity, brain pressure) then moved me to Valium (direct cross over which really hurt my gut). Landing at 12.5 mg and I thought i stabilized. I’ve been hospitalized for hyponatremia for three days and have had an insane amount of symptoms which shook my CNS. They also gave me generic Valium pills in the hospital and generic liquid. I know all the info above sounds idiotic, but I kept telling my doctor something was wrong and asking for multiple opinions with no help. With Valium I started a cut and hold at first then liquid and had to ipdose from 8.5 to 9 Bc of hyponatremia. I’m now trying a .001 microtaper pills after trying to stabilize on 9 mg for a month. I’m still not stable and have almost electricity coming off me and a charge in my tongue and throat. I know I’ve had so many changes in a short amount of time, but I don’t feel like I can survive this even dropping .001. I have insomnia as well and have lost 50 lbs since May with muscle wasting. I know I seem like the crazy one on the forum, but I had a great job and life before this and I’m at a loss of how to move through it. Every single day I get worse. I’m wondering since I never had a proper crossover would it be an option to cross over to Librium and hold for a long time? Any advice would be appreciated. I was holding at 9 mg and still felt pretty terrible. I wish I had known about the Ashton manual before all of this. I’m currently holding. It also burns when I take the Valium.

Sxs that come and go

1. electric feeling – mouth, throat, genitals
2. insomnia
3. head pressure
4. metalic taste and smell
5. rapid aging
6. dpr
7. looping/ocd
8. burning in extremities
9. thirst
10. spasms
11. tingling
12. numbness
13. hair loss
14. twitching
15. veins popping
16. GI issues
17. dandruff
18. massive weight loss
19. muscle wasting
20. tongue spasms
21. electricity feeling off my face – this is because the hyponatremia rocked my CNS
22. DEPRESSION
23. gas
24. foot jerks
25. blinking
26. acid reflux
27. benzo belly
28. tooth pain and inflamed gums
29. tremors
30. Edema

Re: please help me - paradoxical?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 12:21:36 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone? Moderators?

Benzo Buddies forces members to give up coffee

Re: Does Everybody Truly Heal? ***MAY BE TRIGGERING***
« Reply #160 on: November 18, 2018, 11:24:23 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on November 18, 2018, 09:14:24 pm
I had no desire for a cup of morning coffee in early withdrawal as my system was already overstimulated. Extreme physiological panic and seizures particularly wipe out any desire for coffee. When things calmed down and I felt better, I went back to living dangerously with my cup of joe. So far, so good. If a wave hits, I can’t disprove the coffee theory, but then again, can anyone prove my cup of joe was the culprit? Theories and speculations and proven facts are just different things is all.

Edit: Extreme physiological panic and seizures particularly wiped out any desire for coffee for me. Edited because I suppose I should speak for myself, but I cannot imagine others desiring coffee during such.

Benzo Buddies members feel worse after long drug tapers

5 years off
« on: October 10, 2018, 07:52:30 pm »

[Buddie]

I will be five years off everything December 4. It is very disheartening to be this far out and have so many symptoms. I’ve been in a wave since the end of May of this year. The worst symptom that I have is air hunger, dizziness, anxiety, DADP as well. And just when I thought it was going to be OK my head has a tremor. Can anyone on this board relate to me this far out? And for those of you that are not as far off as I am please don’t think that my story is going to be your story. I’m Looking for support.

Re: 5 years off
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 09:18:15 pm »

[Buddie]

I have severe breathing, fatigue and mental problems now. How many windows a week were you having before this wave and have you taken any other meds or supplements during this time

Re: 5 years off
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 11:32:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on October 10, 2018, 09:18:15 pm
I have severe breathing, fatigue and mental problems now. How many windows a week were you having before this wave and have you taken any other meds or supplements during this time

I was feeling good end of May n boom!! No new meds or supplements at all!!!

Unsupervised benzo tapers putting lives at risk

please help me
« on: July 11, 2018, 04:21:25 am »

[Buddie]

ambulance just left my house. was talking to my husband. i felt very dizzy. started to vomit and some stomach cramps. my legs shaking uncontrollably. felt like i was gonna pass out. then the chest pain and arm pain. called 911. ambulance came. ekg ok. blood pressure good. heart rate ok. they told me i was just anxious. didnt recommend i go to er. i literally felt like i was going to die right then and there. i have never felt anything so scary. i am still nauseous and my left arm hurts. about 50 days into my slow klonopin withdrawal. bam! out of nowhere this came. i was decent up until tonight. anyone can reassure? anyone have a nightmarish thing like this? i was feeling like i had to say goodbye to my kids for good. does this mean i should go back up and drop the wean. i cannot go through this every night

Cult micro-taper pushes addict to edge pf sanity

Feel crazy
« on: December 09, 2017, 06:23:32 pm »

[Buddie]

That is it. I feel confused and loopy. Dumbfounded and cloudy. Like I might be on the verge of going insane. Are these normal mental symptoms?

Addict turns benzo taper into lifelong career

Feel like I completely screwed myself and now feel hopeless
« on: November 20, 2017, 10:07:02 pm »

[Buddie]

I can’t help but feel like my failed Valium crossover and then all of the one off updoses that I very stupidly took to help me sleep have completely screwed me up. I’ve never felt so physically sick or mentally off. It’s unbearable I’m bed ridden and absolutely overwhelmed with terror and irrational thoughts 24/7. I don’t know what to do anymore I think I kindled myself so badly. I just wanted relief. This is my history:

Last year I did a daily liquid microtaper from February until November. I would liquefy one of my .5 mg tablets in 100 mL’s of milk and take our 1.2 mL’s a day until it was gone. So I got down to 1.5 mg’s around November of last year when I was slammed with symptoms/side effects and after seeking advice I decided to updose to 2 and then ultimately reinstate back at 2.5. This did not stabilize me at all and I wish more than anything I had just held at 1.5. In May of this year I had a failed Valium crossover. I then went back to 2.5 and tried a dry cut going extremely slow and only got from 2.5 to 2.375 cutting at a little less than 5% but I felt so terrible that I again went back to 2.5 and actually tried going to 3 mg’s for six days to see if I could get relief and did not so I then went back to 2.5 which is where I am now and have been for a few months with occasional 5 mg Valium updoses mixed in.

After 39 months of post-taper hell 68-year-old wants back on Xanax so he can live again

Better Off, Really?
« on: November 07, 2017, 05:58:24 pm »

[Buddie]

Well, I am 68. Off 13 years of benzos for 39 months now. To say this has been hell is being kind. I can’t think of a strong enough word. So, in the past years I seldom sleep. This has led to severe depression, extreme sadness, no life,no hope. I have aged externally and internally exponentially. Given my age I am believing now I would have been better off staying on. I know many heal, and I also know some do not. I am just venting here. I realize most comments will be stay strong and don’t give in and you will heal. I felt that way for many months and years. No more.

So, I am giving this through February. If after that I am not better, I am going back on and buying myself whatever good weeks or months I can grab. I can’t take years more of this. I see some have been 5 or more years struggling. Maybe if I were younger. I didn’t work 30 years and save money to now stay home and cry and hope. Which is worse really, no life or a short time of living again. Hmmmmm….