Benzo Buddies orders terrified addict to ignore doctor, reject psychiatric medication

Hello, My Story
« on: August 17, 2018, 01:25:54 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi. I’m in a bad situation because I decided to smoke weed with friends about three months ago and only one hit threw me into a mood frenzy. I was an insomniac for a week after, non stop crying, paranoid, and panic attacks. So I managed to get 1mg Xanax from a friend which I used for about 14 days at night for sleep to reset my sleep. The last four days, I cut it to .5mg and then .25mg. I then stopped because I felt fine. However, I have been having up and down mood swings, palpitations that make me fear a heart attack, restlessness, shaking, paranoia, and what feels like chronic fatigue. I fear for my life like the weed may have cause tachycardia or mitral valve prolapse. Is this just from my underlying anxiety or the CT from the xanax? I got a shaky episode the other night and had to use one to stop the tremors and feel it was a bad idea. I see a psychiatrist Monday and I am terrified because I can’t tell the doctor about the weed or the xanax because the medicine was not prescribed to me and I could get in trouble. What do I do? I fear my life may never be the same again. I am weak and tremoring as I write this. What if I’m developing mental illness? The only option is for the psych to prescribe me benzos or ssris. I don’t want either.

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 01:37:37 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello […],

Welcome to Benzo Buddies! I’m sorry you had such a severe effect from marijuana. Some strains can in fact increase anxiety, it appears you might have experienced this. Additionally, there might have been other substances in the marijuana that cause your reaction.

You took xanax for about two weeks. The recommended length of time for taking benzos is a maximum of two to three weeks, so you are right in that time frame. You are most likely feeling the effects from stopping xanax. There is likely to be withdrawal effects of some kind after two weeks of use. I do believe that these symptoms should ease up though, it may take a little while though.

If it were me, I would explain to the doctor what started your issues. If you don’t explain the cause, it is likely that the doctor will diagnose you with an anxiety disorder. If you didn’t have issues like this before using marijuana, then the effects you felt were due to the weed.

Your central nervous system took a hit with the marijuana and xanax. It may take a little while for things to settle, but they will. Try to distract from what you feel so that the fear doesn’t cause more issues.

I’ll give you a link to the Ashton Manual. It is an excellent resource about benzos and how to withdraw. It was written by Dr. Heather Ashton, an expert in the field. The manual does discuss tapering in detail but IMO, I would not suggest this for you. If it were me, I’d stay away from benzos and allow my body to recover.

I’ll also give you a link to the Post Withdrawal Recovery Board where you can post and receive feedback from members.

Your life will be the same, once your system recovers. I know this can be frightening, I felt the same way when I was directed to stop ativan for a medical test. I’m glad you’ve joined, you’ll find a lot of good information and support here. It’s going to be OK.

The Ashton Manual

Post-withdrawal Recovery Support

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Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 02:13:00 pm »

[Buddie]

Thanks. If my psych has to give me something, what would be the best route as I am terrified of those withdrawals as well?

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 06:29:15 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 17, 2018, 02:13:00 pm
Thanks. If my psych has to give me something, what would be the best route as I am terrified of those withdrawals as well?

You don’t have to take any medication if offered. It is your body and you can make the decision as to what to put in it. I didn’t even know what a benzo was when I was prescribed it. I had no idea about it’s potential for dependency or withdrawal. I learned a big lesson; be proactive about what I take and question everything.

It’s been my experience that ‘some’ doctors want to medicate everything when there are other alternatives.

[…] :smitten:

Re: Hello, My Story
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 07:04:06 pm »

[Buddie]

Yeah. I also forgot to mention that three days before the weed incident, I CT’d beer completely and for the past year I was drinking three to four to five a day. Could that have something to do with what I am going through maybe?

Moran works brainwashed kooks into frenzy over whether or not cooking with alcohol is safe

Cooking with alcohol?
« on: August 21, 2018, 11:11:14 pm »

[Buddie]

Hi, I'm 18 months off. Wanna know if its safe to cook with alcohol, I don't want a set back.

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 11:32:34 pm »

[Buddie]

If it’s heated yes…..

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2018, 01:03:09 am »

[Buddie]

I cook with alchohol and have not had any problems. I don’t use a lot but if the recipe calls for it then I go ahead and use half of what it calls for. I don’t do it very often though. I haven’t noticed it making me worse.

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2018, 03:00:11 am »

[Buddie]

I had soup with alcohol and it gave me a wave for several terrible months. It’s a myth that it cooks out. Google it… studies have been done!

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2018, 05:09:05 am »

[Buddie]

I have not had any issues with food cooked in alcohol. I am 21 months off, but have had things cooked in alcohol a few time and never had an issue.

Re: Cooking with alcohol?
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2018, 01:20:43 am »

[Buddie]

I’m 18 months and I wouldn’t have a drop of alcohol if my life depended on it. It always pisses me off how crazy people are that they would be willing to risk pure hell over some damm alcohol! How is it worth it?

I would have healed over a year ago had I known the kind of hell alcohol puts us into with this illness.

Benzo Buddies anti-psychiatry cult discourages members from even mentioning SSRIs to members with OCD

can't stop obsessing
« on: August 07, 2018, 10:39:03 am »

[Buddie]

I haven’t been able to see or think of a future in so long. I spend so much time obsessing about the past, it’s all I have. I can’t see any future and the present is torture. I feel stick reliving old memories, they are so vivid. Why do I keep getting sicker, I thought time was meant to heal. How is it possible to regain your interests and passions if they have been gone for so long, I don’t understand how they can just come back.

Re: can't stop obsessing
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 04:55:51 pm »

[Buddie]

I am hesitant of even mentioning this, but have you tried or ever been prescribed a SSRI to manage these reoccurring, life disrupting, thoughts? I know, it’s another medication and there is even another entire forum dedicated to people getting off of SSRI’s. But, I will say, I was on one for a short period of time and it actually did work in terms of stopping intrusive thoughts and cyclic thought patterns of worry, grief, anxiety, etc.

Re: can't stop obsessing
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2018, 05:05:34 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on August 07, 2018, 04:55:51 pm
I am hesitant of even mentioning this, but have you tried or ever been prescribed a SSRI to manage these reoccurring, life disrupting, thoughts? I know, it’s another medication and there is even another entire forum dedicated to people getting off of SSRI’s. But, I will say, I was on one for a short period of time and it actually did work in terms of stopping intrusive thoughts and cyclic thought patterns of worry, grief, anxiety, etc.

I also have intrusive thoughts, and OCD as well. The only problem I have with going on an SSRI is that I may be overcome with side-effects, and the need to take benzos again. It’s a “What if” situation and I don’t know what to do. I was on Zoloft 12 years ago, but had been taking Xanax. Tried it again in 2016, without benzos, and it was intolerable after 3 days so I stopped. I took Lexapro late last year, along with Klonopin, for six weeks, but quit right after stopping Klonopin. I had joined that SSRI website you mentioned and of course read all the negative stuff, which influenced me to stop the Lexapro. I really don’t know what’s best, I’m trying to do this w/o the SSRI’s, but it’s very, very difficult.

Benzo Buddies = red meat to cyberchondriacs

Chickened out at the dentist
« on: January 17, 2018, 12:00:21 am »

[Buddie]

My back molar cracked in half. So I got a filling. Then an infection in the tooth. Took antibiotics for three weeks (caught strep at the same time this is why so long on antibiotics)
Then my tooth still hurts but I’ve read that a root canal can have negative effects on our body (not withdrawal or benzo related) do I opted for getting it taken out except my stomach has been hurting and I’ve had a hard time breathing and felt like headed that I started thinking maybe my h pylori is still there and now I have bad thoughts that I have a bleeding ulcer.
So now my thoughts are :
1. Bleeding ulcer
2. H pylori still present
3. Tooth infection causing light headbess, nerve pain, etc.

I feel like nothing I do is right
If I fix one thing
Something else goes wrong
I can’t take this
I’m so scared 😖

Benzo Buddies cult orders member NOT to attend grandmother’s funeral

Advice of rescue pill do or dont.
« on: December 27, 2017, 10:16:54 am »

[Buddie]

Does a 5 mg of Valium destroy my w/d ? I am benzo free since 1 of October 2017. I am going to a funeral and I have a hard w/d.
Is zoplicone as bad as benzo? I need to sleep the night before the funeral.
If i take one of them will I be back to zero and has to do all crap again

Re: Advice of rescue pill do or dont.
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2017, 12:51:08 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on December 27, 2017, 10:16:54 am
Does a 5 mg of Valium destroy my w/d ? I am benzo free since 1 of October 2017. I am going to a funeral and I have a hard w/d.
Is zoplicone as bad as benzo? I need to sleep the night before the funeral.
If i take one of them will I be back to zero and has to do all crap again

Please don’t reinstate. You have three months of very hard work – the worst period –
behind you now. Taking any risk with that is definitely not something to take lightly and it is most certainly not in your best interests.

You do not have to go to any event, funeral or otherwise; put your recovery first. Not only are you ‘entitled’ to put yourself first, it is imperative that you do so, for your own benefit and the benefit of others who are dear to you.

In time, there will be plenty of opportunity to ‘make up for’ your absences and inabilities of this current period, when your mind is clear, your abilities and capabilites have returned and external activities have become an easy, ordinary thing to do, once again.

I had to miss my son’s wedding for similar reasons and (at the time) suffer the ignominy of my own embarrassment which resulted from that, along with those ‘confirming’ feelings of utter helplessness that also arose from it. (That’s not to mention my second-guessing the uninformed assessments of others and “what they must have thought of me”…) However, my abilities and circumstances now are very different and I am the living proof to others, to myself and now, hopefully, you, that very careful management of your condition has to be your first priority and that no one else can do it for you.

Re: Advice of rescue pill do or dont.
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2017, 01:17:17 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on December 27, 2017, 12:51:08 pm
Quote from: [Buddie] on December 27, 2017, 10:16:54 am
Does a 5 mg of Valium destroy my w/d ? I am benzo free since 1 of October 2017. I am going to a funeral and I have a hard w/d.
Is zoplicone as bad as benzo? I need to sleep the night before the funeral.
If i take one of them will I be back to zero and has to do all crap again

Please don’t reinstate. You have three months of very hard work – the worst period –
behind you now. Taking any risk with that is definitely not something to take lightly and it is most certainly not in your best interests.

You do not have to go to any event, funeral or otherwise; put your recovery first. Not only are you ‘entitled’ to put yourself first, it is imperative that you do so, for your own benefit and the benefit of others who are dear to you.

In time, there will be plenty of opportunity to ‘make up for’ your absences and inabilities of this current period, when your mind is clear, your abilities and capabilites have returned and external activities have become an easy, ordinary thing to do, once again.

I had to miss my son’s wedding for similar reasons and (at the time) suffer the ignominy of my own embarrassment which resulted from that, along with those ‘confirming’ feelings of utter helplessness that also arose from it. (That’s not to mention my second-guessing the uninformed assessments of others and “what they must have thought of me”…) However, my abilities and circumstances now are very different and I am the living proof to others, to myself and now, hopefully, you, that very careful management of your condition has to be your first priority and that no one else can do it for you.


Yes, you are so right.. It is my grand mothers funeral. It makes me so sad. Feels like I am in a mental prision.
I was taking a glass of Baileys last weekend and I start to feel anxiety after that….So no more alcihol

Heartless family sends woman flying into arms of another family… a cult family

Pisses me off that this is not seen as a legimate illness (rant)
« on: December 14, 2017, 01:54:09 pm »

[Buddie]

My mom and other family members love to laugh about panic disorder and anxiety. Why? Because they don’t understand it. My distant cousin who’s gone through some trauma of her own is on 4 different medications for anxiety and depression. The way they just talked about her and another family member who has social anxiety really angered me. They dismiss everything about this illness and just made fun of how she shakes constantly and how the other one can’t look up to say hi to a stranger. I heard them in the back laughing how everyone has a panic disorder. The ignorance just blows my mind.

I don’t find this funny at all. I’m shaking cause I’m so upset right now. What would they do if they experienced 5 minutes of panic? 5 minutes of the mental torment. I bet they’d swallow every pill in sight as well in the hopes of feeling normal again. I know I’m healing and what I’m going through is w/d but there are people out there with legitimate illnesses. For some people this isn’t w/d and is a part of their everyday lives..

Do we need to get cancer for someone to actually care? Do people with mental illnesses need to be hooked up to 4 ivs in a hospital bed for someone to understand? This is not cool. There needs to be more awareness, more compassion in our society. This just sickens me.

I might’ve lost my temper at them and am complelety ok with that. Someone needed to.