FEAR OF BACON

Bacon
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:08:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone have any trouble with bacon when in pretty accute state? I really need to eat a piece of bacon… Please, any opinions good or bad.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 05:19:45 pm »

[Buddie]

I understand your query. True – I don’t have any problems now, but i’m 3.7 years out. When I was in acute, milk products kind of gave me loose stool (not quite diarrhea). I had a fair bit of reflux and a little bloating. It wasn’t terrible, but I did have some minor GI issues/food sensitivities. I could pretty easily treat those ‘issues’ (e.g. with OTC antacids) or I could just ignore them (e.g. loose stool). I only dropped one ‘food’ (an artificial sweetener that seemed to give me hot flashes followed by night sweats). But it’s true – GI issues weren’t as big a withdrawal symptom for me compared with some of the other symptoms (insomnia had to be my most debilitating symptom). Perhaps others will chime in about bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2017, 04:41:39 pm »

[Buddie]

There is uncured and no nitrate bacon.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 am by [Buddie] »

Re: Bacon
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:37 am »

[Buddie]

Guys slightly off topic, but I added coconut oil to my diet yesterday (and i am going to create a new thread for this). Now it did not seem to rev me up, that is I did not 30 mins later suddenly start panicking, or tiwtching or anything like that BUT it kind of made me extremely mellow… EXTREMELY, as if I just hit a fat green weed flavoured pegasus bong. Following this I have never felt so chilled, not in 5 weeks, sleepy and chilled and well calm… NOW im no scientist and I should probably be thankfull but im worried AF now. How cna that be. Does coconut oil mess with your GABA receptors? I think its good to have fats like coconut oil in your brain right for nerve healing, but whats up with that effect? Would you all be worried? IS coconut oil one of those foods that we should be avoiding like certain herbs that people avoid which interact with GABA? Any feelings on this? then we can go back to the bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 11:54:25 am »

[Buddie]

new girl do you weigh 42 kg’s? eish…. I may have some other issues rolled in though. doctors are sending me for MS screening. I am fine most days then out of the blue I get hit with these head symptoms, I become instantly dumb, feels like there is a block in the left side of my face, struggle to think and concentrate, get deeply detached and hazy. Very scary. I am hoping that is not he case. I was free of this best for 10 months, and then I took like 55 times the amount of vitmain b complex that a normal human should take per day for 3 days and suddenly anxiety started, then physical symptoms and now full on cognitive symptoms. So my problems are pretty huge right now. I dont know if this think is a benzo relapse, some kind of permanent damage from the high number of multivitamins I took (which in hindsight I have learned can actually do nerve damage) or some sort of MS attack. Very scary. I am HOPING like hell it is a just a benzo fall back and not MS or the multiple types of complications that vitamin hypertoxicity can cause. Its pretty scary. I’m pretty chilled by its a scary place. the fact that symptoms come and go tell me its very possibly a benzo wave. But it has lasted 5 weeks now with very little improvement if any. At least on the mental side. I think that I have just generally damaged my nervous system at this point, who knows.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 12:40:43 pm »

[Buddie]

Oh, […], I’m so sorry to hear you have these terrible symptoms, must be really tough! 

It’s good that you are seeing some doctors about this, even if they don’t find anything, it’s better to be reassured. I don’t have much experience with PAWS, as I am still tapering, so I don’t have much advice here, maybe you could also post in the Post-withdrawal support thread about this?

Just out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what did you take the vitamin b complex for? And how did you manage to obtain such a high dose?

Big hugs and all my strengths to you!!! I hope you’ll get soon over this!

Re: Bacon
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 12:58:29 pm »

[Buddie]

NewGirl,

I’m a complete idiot. it was a collection of vitamins that I had built up over probably the space of a year and a half. I got a mild headache and thought hey maybe I will just give myself a vitamin BOOST and that will clear it up. it was 6 different bottles. 3 were B-complexes, one was a Maxi-B, one was an iron and folate (which also had B vits), and the other 2 were multivitamins. All had B-complexes all of them basically. I had been healed for o long that withdrawal was no longer a part of my life, I was healed 100 percent. I never even thought ” hey this could trigger me” thats how war out and healed I was. I took all 6 pills each day for a few days, I might have even doubled up on one day. Im so embarrassed even typing this actually, its like i potentially threw my life away. the damage seems permanent and I seem VERY sensitive to foods, I think high vitamin b-6 foods. So i eat no meat. I am eating enough in my opinion to maintain my weight but alas it still drops at least 250 grams a day… SO in short, my issues may not even be benzo related, I may have simply poisoned my nervous system (potentially fatally), especially if I cant eat meat. Im basically holding on, hoping my weight doesnt drop to levels where they have to hospitalize as this would lead to medicating by doctors who dont understand benzo withdrawal let alone vitmain hypertoxicity. so I want to avoid that. You see, im not sure if this is maybe a benzo setback, GOD i hope it is NewGirl. then I know i have hope. If it is poisoning then I dont think I see the year out. Which I have made peace with actually. Its just my kids that worry me… My heart is breaking for my kids, one is 4 and the other is 4 months. All I can do is hold on. its so complicated, what if i get diagnosed with MS but it isnt MS and they treat me and it aggravates my potential benzo withdrawal further. What if it really is MS and they medicate me with steroids or something that I would obviously need but that is not compatible with my benzo history? Do I then live my whole life in withdrawal due to the medication that I need to live continuously triggering withdrawal? Its a complete mess. OR it is vitamin hyper toxicity and the doctors hospitalize me and pump me FULL of nutrients to help me pick up weight, including more B-vits thus doing more damage. SO Ja, I went from being in the absolute best position ever, healed from benzo withdrawal after just a month and a half (maybe 2 months) to basically the worst position that a mortal person could be in. I basically check mated myself. Apologies for the long respond and for killing the fun nature of the post.

And dont worry, surprisingly my mind is in the right place regardless of all of this, I am getting used to it. the thing that makes me worry that its not withdrawal but more just some kind of permanent toxicity damage to the nervous system is that it has reached a point where it just isnt improving at all. Im hoping something just happens and it begins to lift or fade with time, like the nerve damage can magically heal over time. But in the mean time im not sure what to eat and what to avoid so as to fascilitate this repair. Real tough. I live with a lot of powerful anxiety which is not in the mind but in the nervous system, if you have withdrawn from benzos then you know what that feels like, I have detachment, fear, pain in limbs, tired limbs. So unbelievable, and I was a new man, healed, new house, new kid, beautiful wife. All pretty much on its way out. Tough one.

Apologies again 

Kooks add “inability to chew” to list of 90,000,000 benzo withdrawal symptoms

Chewing...please help
« on: June 02, 2017, 10:40:39 am »

[Buddie]

It is about 4 weeks after stopping clonazepam. During this period i have muscle weaknesses in arms and legs, off balance. But the major problem is; I have difficulty chewing food; for example eating a bread or biscuites and hard foods are difficult. It makes me scare. Does anyone has chewing problem during withdrawal? Please help.
I will appreciate your sharings.

Kooky Monday: Potatoes contain diazepam

POTATOES contain DIAZEPAM !!! MOTHER NATURE is mad...
« on: March 12, 2017, 04:05:53 pm »

Hi All,
i put what i have read
is it true?? if YES i won’t eat potatoes anymore for years !!  

post @ poppies.org

“We must be talking the atropa alkaloids right? No….not really…in the last few years it was noticed that plants such as wheat and potatoes accumulated benzodiazepines…more recently it was demonstrated that sterile plant cultures (Solanum tuberosum and Artemesia dracunculus) are capable of synthesizing various 5-phenyl-1,4-benzodiazepines (the pharmacologically active type) including diazepam, N-desmethyldiazpam, delorazepam, delorazepam, lorazepam etc…(see Kavvadias et al, 2000 Biochem Biophys Res Comm 269:290) thus indicating that the plant (and not some bacterial or fungal contaminant) is producing these compounds. In this paper, they culture a number of plants in sterile conditions including potato (Solanum tuberosum) and French tarragon (Artemesia dracunculus) and then identified the presence of these compounds using benzodiazepine receptor assays (using brain membranes) and via preparative HPLC-ESI- MS/MS using known benzodiazepine standards for comparison. So it seems pretty certain that these plants really are producing these compounds (albeit in low amounts – for example temazepam was found at 100-450 ng/g FW in potato cultures). The pathway to these compounds is also totally unknown really…it has been suggested that a pathway similar to that found in penicillium leading to cyclopeptine and utilizing anthranilate, tyrosine and glycine to form the benzo skeleton is responsible for their formation at least in these fungi…i have my suspicions that the whole pathway is based on benzoic acid, glycine and anthranilate in plants however, with a mechanism similar to that used in the biosynthesis of tryptophan…anyways…

does anyone else want to put in their two cents on this?

can we start engineering potatoes to produce benzos?

Not that i really consider the benzos to be sacramental in anyway, but i don’t know what other forum to post this in…”

Starving for Ashton: “Eating makes my anxiety flare”

Eating makes my anxiety flare..
« on: January 13, 2017, 04:11:17 pm »

[Buddie]

So yeah, just recognized this “symptom”. I feel good when I don’t eat, I feel content, like I’m really alive and powerful and not just a ghost. But after I eat, the anxiety, cog fog, confusion, dissociations, depression.. They all flare. I don’t really understand this, is this a symptom or is this just me? I’ve read that some people experience anxiety after they eat, but I’ve never been like that. I’ve always had good appetite (except in the morning) and could’ve eaten just about anything.

I haven’t been able to link it to any specific food, just eating normal and healthy (no junk- or fast foods). I’ve never had any regular eating times, now I’ve tried to maintain them somehow but not with success. It’s pretty weird and would like to know if someone has experience of this, like some particular food that does it to them..

Is there anyone else who could relate? It doesn’t bother me tho, except for the fact that I don’t know what has happened and why.

Peace!

Re: Eating makes my anxiety flare..
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2017, 05:47:34 pm »

[Buddie]

I have the same.

I’m so tired of this benzo crap

Freak show: “Orange juice revving me up”

Orange juice revving me up
« on: January 11, 2017, 06:58:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Just like the title says I’ve been drinking a small glass of OJ in the AM for the past few days. Today I notice increased w/d symptoms like cog fog, dizziness, and a bit anxiety. I always drank a small amount daily but stopped several months ago because I suspected it was revving up my symptoms.

Anyone else experience this too? I know we can get food sensitivities maybe this is one for me. I hope it goes away. Does anyone know an explanation for this? Is it the VitaminC?

Thanks buddies.

Becky 

Pretty soon Moran’s brainwashed kooks won’t be able to eat anything

Did vegetarianism cause my anxiety or make it worse?
« on: August 14, 2016, 04:20:45 am »

[Buddie]

I’ve thought about this one a lot. My anxiety really kicked into high gear in 2004 when two things happened. I started Prilosec and I stopped eating meat. Since 2008 I’ve been eating chicken and fish again (I can’t eat dairy, it wrecks my stomach). I think I’ve felt better, but all my levels are still low. Iron, B12, etc. It’s caused me to wonder again if I should consider eating red meat again. Thoughts?

Two cookies and ice cream cause savage wave

Has anyone had a window closed by eating the wrong foods?
« on: June 27, 2016, 02:18:34 pm »

[Buddie]

I was having a great two day window and thought I was finally out of the woods. I went to a party, stayed away from the alcohol, but decided to indulge on food. Two cookies and ice cream to top it off. The next day some of my symptoms crept back in, not as bad as before, but very irritated. Mostly the physical symptoms, but along with that comes the mental aspect. Does this happen to anyone else? I should have known better. Ugh! ???

Organic food is bad for benzo withdrawal?

Organic food
« on: May 02, 2016, 07:21:33 am »

[Buddie]

Does organic food have any affect on withdrawal? Its good right? I’ve been trying to buy organic fruit, milk, eggs etc lately just because Im stupid to read on the Internet about food and get anxious. Guess what, whatever I do I get anxious. Now Im anxious for eating organic food, reading on the Internet saying its actually worse than normal food. 

What about you guys?