A ‘benzo epidemic’ without any victims

There are no reliable (or for that matter unreliable) statistics on the number of people allegedly victimized by Big Pharma’s benzodiazepines. The claim of millions of benzo victims is based solely on dogma created by the infamous Scientology front group mis-named Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR). If you ask any of Ashton disciples to provide evidence, of their claim, they inevitably fumble and the offer nothing but a litany of excuses on why there is no evidence to back up their spurious nonsense. Yet, if you join one of their ridiculous benzo victim groups you will hear cult acolytes repeat – like mindless sheep – that millions are suffering. They’re suffering all right – suffering delusions.

Professional victim: “I never knew it was addictive”

Benzo Victim of 20 years
« on: June 08, 2016, 08:18:33 am »

[Buddie]

Hello All. I was prescribed Klonopin 20 years ago for sleep. Was upped small doses over the initial years due to intolerance. My high water mark was 6mg of K. Realized 10 years into the poisoning that I needed to get off. It took 2 years but I got myself down to 0. Was at 0 for 2 years and began suffering severe panic attacks. Psych put me back on and eventually upped to 6mg of K again. Over the past 18 months was able to wean down to 1.5mg but am stuck at this level. Still have hope of getting to 0 again and staying clean of this toxic med. Glad to meet you all. It is possible to get off of benzos and stay off.

ZAP!

Former Xanax eater joins online pity party, immediately blames doctor

New Cry Baby Here
« on: June 07, 2016, 03:25:57 pm »

[Buddie]

Hey everyone. I’m obviously new here… and here’s a little about me, and why I feel like a cry baby.

I was given 1.5mg Xanax for sleep, that was years ago. Never upped the dose, never took more than prescribed… Then like many before me, was given an opiate for pain relief. Well that was for years!

Fast forward to a few months ago. I wanted my life back, and not be chained to pill bottles anymore. Jumped ct off the pain pills. Had a bad 1 or 2 weeks, and boom, recovered from that. No lingering effects or anything. Felt crummy, but after about the 2 week mark, felt like life was back. Here’s where things got interesting…

I thought Xanax was the same type of thing. That I could just ct that too. Boy oh boy what was I thinking. Made it to like day 2, and was taking it again, but that’s where things got interesting. I could never find stability again! I was 100% stable taking the 1.5mg at night only. Never took them during the day… Just at night. No issues, no problems, no inter-dose withdrawal, nothing. I was fine. Well, when I got back on them, no matter what I tried, I felt like my head was going to explode, i basically lived in the bath tub, and damn near wanted to end it.

Someone who I adore took me to the ER, and the folks at the ER said I was suffering benzo dependance. I was like, duh! I’m not here for drugs, i showed her my full pill bottle, and I asked how do I get normal again? She literally said ‘I don’t know, but there’s nothing I can do for you here, unless you want to go to detox, and that’ll actually hurt more than help as its only 5 days, but I have to offer.’

Long story short, it took me 2 weeks to get an appt with my pdoc, and I specifically asked for a good solid taper plan. The pdoc had me reduce Xanax by .25mg every 3 days, while taking 10mg of Valium. The 10mg of Valium was to only last 2 weeks, and at the end of that 2 weeks, I was to go to 7.5mg, and the following 2 weeks, down to 5mg… etc.

Here’s where I went sideways. I pushed down and followed the doctors letter to a T to get off the Xanax. Just so happened, I felt great! I felt like the king of the world. Well, I made the Xanax jump, not thinking ahead, on the same day that I had to drop to 7.5mg of Valium.

3 days later, it got gnarly. I won’t bore anyone with the details, but I had to jump back up to 10mg of Valium just to think straight and take care of my kids. The headaches are horrible, sleep is something of the past, and i’m feeling defeated.

Well fast forward to now… I’m on day 2 of going back down to 7.5mg after getting semi-normal on the 10mg again. Pdoc wants me on this for 4 weeks, and we’ll have a new appt then. It seems the pdoc listened to me, but only kind of. Pdoc said that with Valium, ‘there’s no chemical way you’re feeling withdrawals because of the half-life of Valium. It’s all made up in your head. You need to understand that.’

Anyways, here I sit, at 7.5mg on day 2, feel super super crummy, feeling like i’m losing the motivation to want to quit, because this road is uncharted, hard, and ya. Just feel like a failure at everything because it’s ‘made up in my head’.

Anyways, i’m keeping a word doc of my journey, all the twists and turns, more like a journal, and i’m on page 36 already. That’s how many thoughts and twists and turns I’ve taken. IDK. I know i know, there’s light at the end of the tunnel and all that jazz, but is there a faster way to the end of the tunnel? And if not, how do I get my pdoc to listen? I personally feel that the rate of taper might be a little to fast, but pdoc justifies it with ‘Valium has a built in self taper, and you shouldn’t feel withdrawal at the rate we are going. It’s all in your head’. I mean seriously, how much of this is in my head?

Sorry for being long winded, but that’s just where i’m at, my story (very very short version believe it or not) and ya.

1800? I am sure Big Pharma is terrified.

Re: XANAX is a nightmare - it must be stopped!!
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2016, 11:02:22 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 16, 2016, 04:18:14 am
Alprazolam /ælˈpræzəlæm/ or /ælˈpreɪzəlæm/, available under the trade name Xanax … The first approved indication was panic disorder and within two years of its original marketing Upjohn’s Xanax became a blockbuster drug in the US.

Those of us who took it on a long term basis are now paying for corporate greed, BIG MEDICINE greed, and BIG PHARMA greed in spades…

What can we do to put an end to this?

Join the Benzo legal group on Facebook. Strength in numbers. Over 1800 members. FB: Benzodiazepine Awareness & Legal Action

XANAX CHEERLEADERS

Ashton’s kooks crawl toward oblivion

We Are Not The Minority
« on: May 05, 2016, 05:41:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Buddies,

We are not the minority.

We are at the very initial stage of a tsunami groundswell, out in the middle of the ocean when it appears as just a tiny ripple on the surface of the water. Look at the growing number of people in the Introductions board who register as new members of BB every single day. Look at the number of “200 guests” who constantly churn through the BB turnstile reading anonymously. These new members and guests feel like crap and they are starting to figure out what’s happening to them. We members are their beacons. Our posts are providing them with knowledge and answers about the drugs they are taking and the dangerous effects they have on their brains. We are not a minority of poor unfortunate souls who are suffering through rare withdrawal symptoms. We are a small part of the MAJORITY of people who take these drugs who have decided to get off them. THAT is one minority we are in. Luckily we found BB and we are brave and honest enough to share our experiences. THAT is another minority we are in.

These drugs catch up with everyone eventually. Sometimes it takes years to hit tolerance if your body has the enzyme to metabolize the drug. But the drugs eventually wreak havoc on everyone who takes them. Eventually everyone downregulates their GABA receptors if they take the drugs up to the point of hitting tolerance. Nobody gets a free pass once they hit tolerance and downregulate their receptors. Nobody. The rollercoaster bar descends automatically on top of our bloated bellies and we are in for the ride of a lifetime.

The rollercoaster ride, thankfully, is not forever. Eventually the car we are in comes to a full and complete stop, the security bar automatically rises, we walk slowly and carefully off the ride and stroll alongside the rest of humanity enjoying the amusement park.

We members of BB who have been at this for awhile are pulling out of this shitshow, while others are just beginning their journeys. Our posts will give them hope that they will get their lives back. I’m going to continue posting to comfort others until I’m healed. I appreciate the companionship and support I receive from my fellow rollercoaster riders every single day.

Thank you BB family,

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« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 07:05:09 pm by [Buddie] »

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 05:46:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I dont write here much lately but I must say this message is pure truth. Anyone who has perfomee even the most basic of searches in regards to these pills will soon learn that there are millions of people on this crap. Granted there are those who never stop taking them and then again there are people like us.

This is unfortunately, only the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

L

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 07:28:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes!! So true!! And think of the countless people who try to stop taking benzos but when they have a resurgence or even a new onset of anxiety and/or depression, among other things, they don’t see the correlation. Their psychiatrists insist that it’s a worsening or even a new mental health condition and give them more drugs. People are really bad at correlating things properly. Many of us are so out of tune with our own bodies. I used to be, but not anymore. I dream of the day I am healed and can come back to comfort and encourage everyone here at BB suffering and struggling to see the light. Thanks for this post.

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2016, 11:28:13 pm »

[Buddie]

Leslie,

You are very sweet and a newbie to all this, so I have my arm around you.

You will be fine. It’s a process. Read about the Four Phases in the Post Withdrawal Board. As you move through the process you’ll find similarities to your own experience.

We aren’t in a minority of unfortunate people who are going through withdrawal. We are in the majority of people who took drugs that temporarily altered our brain chemistry. Our internal healing systems will bring us back to homeostasis, a nice even state of balance.

Keep reading and posting your questions and concerns and the other members will respond with comforting words of support.

Love, […]

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 11:33:20 pm »

[Buddie]

Blue skies,

The whole greedy psyche drug money grab, at the expense of unsuspecting patients who are already hurting, is criminal. We are victims and warriors who are contributing to the growing awareness of a threat to the health and safety of mankind. This is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. By suffering publicly on this forum, I guess we are part of the solution.

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Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2016, 11:44:14 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 05, 2016, 05:41:05 pm
Buddies,

We are not the minority.

We are at the very initial stage of a tsunami groundswell, out in the middle of the ocean when it appears as just a tiny ripple on the surface of the water. Look at the growing number of people in the Introductions board who register as new members of BB every single day. Look at the number of “200 guests” who constantly churn through the BB turnstile reading anonymously. These new members and guests feel like crap and they are starting to figure out what’s happening to them. We members are their beacons. Our posts are providing them with knowledge and answers about the drugs they are taking and the dangerous effects they have on their brains. We are not a minority of poor unfortunate souls who are suffering through rare withdrawal symptoms. We are a small part of the MAJORITY of people who take these drugs who have decided to get off them. THAT is one minority we are in. Luckily we found BB and we are brave and honest enough to share our experiences. THAT is another minority we are in.

These drugs catch up with everyone eventually. Sometimes it takes years to hit tolerance if your body has the enzyme to metabolize the drug. But the drugs eventually wreak havoc on everyone who takes them. Eventually everyone downregulates their GABA receptors if they take the drugs up to the point of hitting tolerance. Nobody gets a free pass once they hit tolerance and downregulate their receptors. Nobody. The rollercoaster bar descends automatically on top of our bloated bellies and we are in for the ride of a lifetime.

The rollercoaster ride, thankfully, is not forever. Eventually the car we are in comes to a full and complete stop, the security bar automatically rises, we walk slowly and carefully off the ride and stroll alongside the rest of humanity enjoying the amusement park.

We members of BB who have been at this for awhile are pulling out of this shitshow, while others are just beginning their journeys. Our posts will give them hope that they will get their lives back. I’m going to continue posting to comfort others until I’m healed. I appreciate the companionship and support I receive from my fellow rollercoaster riders every single day.

Thank you BB family,

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In my first taper, I thought that everyone went through hell when coming off benzos.
I read, this, and now defunct forums avidly and feared I would get every symptmom going as I’d been on valium 8yrs, took street benzos, stoppped c/t for five weeks and felt like the odds were against me.

I got two of the symptoms, anxiety and depression.

I got to 0mg with no PAWS

I frightened myself terribly by reading about the sx everyone on here was suffering.

No doubt there are loads of people registering here, realising why they feel like sh1t, and guests who lurk but dont register etc.
That could be down to the recent years influx of new research benzos or bathtub benzos as some call them.
They are legal in many countries, they are in mine, but are being banned.
Many recreational drug users may have been using them, not realising they are just like benzos as theyve never had cause to, but suffering wds on stopping usage, if supply, stock runs out or they run out of money and don’t buy them in the same way they wouldn’t buy thier other drugs when they have no money.

I realised that there are a hell of a lot of people who don’t suffer anywhere near what the poor people on these boards suffer.
I’m not saying the majority get away scott free, but the people who have no bother, or not enough bother to make a post about, just don’t post.
Some people go on and off them a few times before it finally hits them, as the more habits you have to detox from the worse the wds get and if you get none the first, second, or third time around, you might get hit the fourth time, and so on.

I could hav saved myself a lot of worry by reading about people’s symptoms instead of looking at the wider perspective and considering the whole of the population of people who have stopped benzo use or only taken weeks/months to taper, as well as the poor people who get hit with sx.
I’d have been reassured back then, if I knew that not all people suffer like the poor people have on these boards.
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STRAIGHT-JACKET

Professional victim blames doctor for spending three months in psych ward

This is poison - it is criminal to prescribe poison - how can they?
« on: May 01, 2016, 08:51:29 pm »

[Buddie]

Ok – I spent 3 months in a psych ward trying to recover from this stuff – if I had know then what I know now, I never would have touched it – yet Drs ate prescribing this deadly poison every minute of every hour of every day

They used to have to use straight jackets, now they use benzos –

I would have rather been in a straight jacket – at least when the jacket is off you get better

Endless self-pity from weaklings who blame doctors for their drug addictions

The Accidental Addict
« on: April 13, 2016, 05:16:04 pm »

[Buddie]

I was prescribed Ativan .05 mg for my fear of flying in 2015. As my need to fly increased so did my Ativan. One day I started having panic attacks even on the Ativan and I had to take more to stop them. It was at that point I realized I have become dependant on them. I got scared and stopped immediately..since that day in September 2015 I have never been the same. I survived a virtual hell on earth of 10 days in non stop panic attack, muscle tremors, confusion and did I mention a PANIC ATTACK that lasted 10 days I didn’t sleep or eat for days and lost 25lbs…and still have massive anxiety, muscle twitches, dizziness,severe depression and a multiple of other bizarre symptoms to this day 8 months later!!! Since I stopped cold turkey in September I’ve only had a few sort of normal days a month. And even those days I can’t shake the feeling of dread in my chest. The worst days for me start with uncontrollable shaking, dizziness and absolute panic. The doctors tell me there is no way this is from Ativan withdrawl but cannot find anything medically wrong with me. I am a quivering mess that the doctors have no clue what is wrong with me so they say take Prozac. Its not working…I need some ray of hope that I will return to the bright and calm person I once was. Now I can barely read or focus and am TERRIFIED this will be the rest of my life? Please tell me this will end one day?
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Self-pitying professional victim compares himself to Leonardo DiCaprio in the Revenant

If anyone asks you what benzo withdrawal is like,tell them to watch The Revenant
« on: January 20, 2016, 04:22:13 pm »

[Buddie]

I couldnt help drawing the comparison betweent the Hell Leonardo’s character was going through and the torment of Benzo withdrawal. Never ending nightmare. Just when you think things are about to get better you are fighting for your life again. Repeat repeat repeat.

Member scores cult on delusional belief system i.e. “accidental addict” dogma

How Attempts to Distance from the Term Addiction Can Result in Harm
« on: January 13, 2016, 05:35:37 pm »

[Buddie]

I know of several instances in my real life and now have also seen a bunch on the BB board where people are more concerned with what they’re being called rather than whether the pharmaceutical protocol they’re following is helping them get well or hurting and delaying their recovery.

As long as they get reassurance they’re not nasty addicts, they can continue with their denial and keep popping whatever it is they’re still taking. The way I see it, people who so adamantly insist they are better than actual “addicts” are merely perpetuating the stereotype that a hijacked, addicted brain is some kind of moral failing. This attitude just makes it harder for others to take a clear-eyed look at their own situation and make changes for the better.

If a doctor put you on something and your brain got addicted to it and you had the strength to get off of it, you have absolutely nothing to be ashamed about. But you also won’t increase the speed of your healing by heaping shame on others and trying to distance yourself.

And by the way, it’s completely screwed up how doctors treat EVERYBODY on this issue. The whole system is due for a major overhaul and it goes way beyond trying to school doctors not to call you an addict.

Re: How Attempts to Distance from the Term Addiction Can Result in Harm
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 06:14:42 pm »

[Buddie]

I don’t believe that people calling themselves addicts, accidental addicts or iatrogenically dependent can harm themsleves or anyone else. We all came here for the same purpose, to gain support and information in a quest to become benzo free or to receive support as the recovery process continues. Our members deserve respect at all times.

I certainly don’t see people “popping” medications because they don’t feel they are “addicts” and I have been here a really long time. Many people are polydrugged and need to take care of one medication at a time. Additionally, we are not an anti drug support forum, our focus is on benzo withdrawal. If someone decides they need a particular medication, there should be absolutely no stigma or judgmental attitudes towards them.

I see no “heaping of shame” on others and to bring this up, you are making an issue out of what is in all actuality a non-issue.

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Re: How Attempts to Distance from the Term Addiction Can Result in Harm
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2016, 06:55:15 pm »

[Buddie]

[…],

You’re just not getting it. No offense.

Take Tylenol start to vibrate?

Re: My journal
« Reply #227 on: Today at 08:36:22 AM »

IwillnIcan

Well im back,2 days ago i took some tylenol extra strength for some jerks i was having at night. I dont think it did me too good at all  :( . took away the pain i was having but gave me some anxiety that night and felt very tense the next day. I felt somewhat accelerated also and i couldnt sleep till bout 8 am woke up today at 5pm. Ate, went to a friends house and still felt somewhat accelerated.  really couldnt stop talking!  :-[ . and at the same time i felt tired  ??? . its now 3 am and i felt tired so i tried to pass out and i couldnt. was having all sort of irrational thoughts, like if i was tripping on acid or something felt like im dreaming but im awake. things didnt seem much real or my thoughts. was thinking of all sort of weird thoughts and still am  :( . I really hope this doesnt send me back into hell  :'( . i felt like i was doing pretty good overall, but that tylenol seemed to have put me back some. im gettin  that vibrating thing in my head again feels like someone is ringing a gong in my head. its so weird how im having all these irrational thoughts when my head feels SO clear, no cogfog or nothing!! hopefully it goes away soon.  :(

TRAP psycho laments destruction of his freak show

The TRAP Killer ?
Enough Is Enough

Forgive me, but I think I have just experienced something VERY unpleasant. Perhaps THIS creature is the person or company responsible for the effort to close TRAP….

http://www.cesspoolofmadness.com/

I am appalled.

This offensive site has “WordPress” as its operating system.

I think it may be a case of referring this hate filled diatribe to WordPress for them to adjudicate whether the material and content therein violates their own policies.

Then having the appropriate jurisdictional solicitor/attorney issue the relevant “Cease & Desist” notice pending legal action against the miscreant.

As a former police officer, I know that there ARE laws against this sort of thing.

If this is the sort of vile hate that the TRAP mods have had to put up with, little wonder there is a concensus to close the TRAP Forum.

Regards,

Calum.