Anti-psychiatry zealot conspires with Benzo Buddies ghouls to destroy brother with epilepsy

Helping my Brother (Intro)
« on: February 16, 2016, 06:37:15 pm »


Hi: I live in Vancouver, and one of your admins started a weekly (2nd Weds of each month) benzo withdrawal support group. I have helped the group secure a free place at the Unitarian Church where I am a member. We had our first meeting last week.

My big brother has been on an astounding cocktail of psych meds for the last 25 years or so, stemming mostly from a brain injury incurred after surgery to remove a benign frontal lobe tumor, though he also has epilepsy.

Through my direction, and approval from his psychiatrist, he is slowly tapering off Olanzapine. He is also taking Clonazepam. He has a lot of trouble being organized, and is on disability in another city in Canada. Here are the meds he is currently on:

Divalproex 3X250 mg. noon & 5Xat 6 PM
Carbamazepine CR 600 mg. AM & 9:30 PM
Primidone 250 mg. AM & 9:30 PM
Olanzapine 10 mg. AM & 9:30 PM
Clonazepam 7.5 mg. AM & 10mg PM
Metformin Hydrochloride 1000 mg. AM & 6:00 PM
Atorvastatin 40 mg. AM
Diamicron MR (Gliclazide) 60 mg. AM
ASA 81 mg. AM

He has a long way to go. And now I want to cry. Preparing this, I went back to the list of meds he sent me in August 2014, and nothing has tapered (I’ll ask him about that) but his Clonazepam went from 2.0 mg/day to 7.5 mg.

His speech is more slurred than ever.

Not sure if you need confirmation of his consent for me to ask questions on his behalf, he has problems following discussion boards and such.

But maybe I can suggest that his doctor supervise his taper off clonazepam.

Sorry, this was supposed to be short 🙂 Thank you.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2016, 07:57:56 pm by [Buddie] »

Re: Helping my Brother (Intro)
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 06:50:59 pm »


Hello […],

Welcome to Benzo Buddies and thank you for being here on behalf of your brother, he is lucky to have you as an advocate.

Yes, your brother is on a lot of medications including a huge dose of clonazepam. It’s no wonder your dear brother has trouble following discussions, he is extremely medicated. I must admit that I don’t know a lot about many of the other medications your brother is taking but others here might be able to share information and experience about them.

I would hope that your brother’s doctor would be willing to help your brother with a sensible, slow taper. Many doctors favor really large cuts that can bring on some strong withdrawal effects. Since your brother does have epilepsy, it is important to make sure he is monitored by his health care team.

It will take a while to taper from such a high dose of clonazepam, but it can be done. It is generally suggested to taper no more than 5-10% every 10-14 days. I’m going to give you a link to the Ashton Manual, an excellent resource about these types of drugs and how to withdraw. It was written by an expert in the field. You might even consider printing out the appropriate pages and taking them to your brother’s doctor.

I’ll also give you a link to the General Taper Plans for additional information.

If you have questions about the other medications your brother is taking, you can post on the Other Medications board.

We’ll be here to support you and your brother. Perhaps as time progresses and his cognitive abilities improve, he would consider joining the forum himself. Please ask questions, we’re here to help.

The Ashton Manual

General Taper Plans

Other Medications

BTW, none of the admins of the forum set up a benzo withdrawal group, it might have been a regular member who took this on.


Re: Helping my Brother (Intro)
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 07:57:12 pm »


Thank you […]. This will be a long process. And it’s hard not being in the same city. I’ll talk to him and find out what he feels like doing. He was supposed to be reducing his Olanzapine (anti-psychotic) by 10% per month, but he seems to be on the same dose. He was working with his pharmacist, who was reducing the dosage, with the “permission” of his psychiatrist.

I had no idea which med would be the best to reduce, maybe I’ll ask on the board for people taking multiple meds, but I am shocked, saddened, angry that in 2.5 years his Clonazepam went from 2.0 to 7.5 mg/day.

Thank you for the links too. Maybe I misunderstood, but the support group facilitator is someone who has tapered off benzos, and benzobuddies was very helpful (I don’t know her username).

Benzo Buddies member admits site anti-psychiatry (like Scientology)

“Well I said I wasn’t going to come here again but this comparison to Scientology I can’t seem to let go because it’s just not the same. CCHR may be a Scientologist organization, but BB is not.

“You can be a member of BB and not be anti psychiatry. But you can also be critical of psychiatry and not a Scientologist.

“There is a difference. Sorry but that is fact. You can leave BB without your life being threatened or destroyed. You also can have whatever faith you belong to on BB- Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Atheist, etc.

“Also Scientologists seem to be anti psychiatry for the sake of it, BB members are usually anti psychiatry because they have suffered at the hands of the profession.”  – Angela, Benzo Buddies member

No, Benzo Buddies is not a Scientology organization – per se. I never said it was. I said Benzo Buddies promotes many of the same ideas / conspiracy theories regarding psychiatry. Over the past several years, hundreds of members have posted CCHR propaganda at the site. Despite official denials, Benzo Buddies is an anti-psychiatry and anti-psychiatric medications site. Benzo Buddies is riddled with Scientology-sympathizers. All of that, and more, makes Benzo Buddies function as a Scientology agent of influence. 

This following is from the Benzo Buddies Rules and Guidelines: 

“Although we are not ‘an anti-benzo website’, we are dedicated to help those who wish to quit benzodiazepines. We therefore require that you do not promote the use of benzodiazepines within the BenzoBuddies community, as this would be contrary to our Mission Statement.”

If a member insists benzodiazepines have helped them that member is usually banned, after being harassed by the staff and members.

The basic ideas of Benzo Buddies are:

  1. benzodiazepines are evil
  2. doctors / psychiatrists are not educated i.e. benzo wise, we – the “accidental addicts” – know more
  3. psychiatrists are witch doctors, there is no such thing as mental illness
  4. detox doesn’t work 

Members are routinely warned away from psychiatric medication and told all of their health symptoms are merely drug withdrawal. This is both dangerous and irresponsible.

I am happy people are not murdered for wanting to leave Benzo Buddies and that other faiths, beside Ashton worship, are allowed. That’s progress and people can thank me for that. 

You’ve admitted Benzo Buddies is an anti-psychiatry site. And that is exactly why I insist Benzo Buddies is no different than Scientology – when it comes to being anti-psychiatry. You’ve also retailed one of the craziest conspiracy theories I’ve ever heard: medical doctors are out to hurt their patients. 

While Benzo Buddies does not have a shrine devoted to L. Ron Hubbard, at their site, they might as well have one as Hubbard’s disgusting ideas about psychiatry and psychiatric medication are worshiped there.

Alee Sun not so sunny

“Let’s say your mom had cancer and some assfuck posted shit about her that she was faking her illness, took pictures of her and distorted her face to make her look crazy and tweaky, hacked into people’s Facebook accounts and posted stuff on their page…” — Alee Sun

People with cancer don’t attack their oncologists.

Sane people vandalize anti-vax kooks


The United States Anti-Vaccination Movement is composed of a variety of individuals ranging from former doctors who should know better, to semi-celebrities who have no medical training, to anti-government conspiracy theorists who distrust anything that the government says. They all hold onto the mistaken belief that autism is caused by receiving childhood vaccines.

Most anti-vaccination believers claim that the compound Thimerosal led to an increase in autism cases. The Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine is their usual target. However, Thimerosal was never used as a preservative in the Measles/Mumps/Rubella vaccine. No vaccine licensed since 1999 has contained Thimerosal as a preservative, except a few multi-dose container vaccines such as some (but not all) HIB and Influenza vaccines. Autism has not declined since 1999, thereby disproving this connection. However, this has not stopped anti-vaccination believers from claiming that it was the MMR vaccine itself that caused autism or that it was vaccines in general that caused autism. All of these ideas have been disproven in multiple scientific and legal examinations of the evidence. The primary scientific reason for the increase in autism diagnoses is due to more disorders being included in the Autism Spectrum and doctors getting better at diagnosing the characteristics of autism.

In 2007 there was an increase in celebrities promoting anti-vaccination rhetoric. Because of their celebrity status they appeared on several television shows and published multiple books advising parents not to vaccinate their children. This has led to an increase in the number of vaccine preventable illnesses as well as an increase in the number of vaccine preventable deaths.

The Anti-Vaccination Movement has a body count attached to its name. This website publishes the total number of vaccine preventable illnesses and vaccine preventable deaths that have happened in the United States since this 2007 increase in speaking out against vaccines.

Is the United States Anti-Vaccination Movement directly responsible for every vaccine preventable illness and every vaccine preventable death? No. However, the United States Anti-Vaccination Movement may be indirectly responsible for at least some of these illnesses and deaths and even one vaccine preventable illness or vaccine preventable death is too many.


When talking about vaccination it is important to understand what the recommended vaccine schedule is. This information is taken from this webpage from the Centers For Disease Control And Prevention. To see what diseases these vaccines are used to prevent please visit the What’s The Harm? webpage.

Recommended Immunization Schedule for Persons Aged 0 Through 18 Years – United States, 2015

Hepatitis B (First of Three)

2 Months:
Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis (First of Five)
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (First of Three)
Hepatitis B (Second of Three)
Pneumococcal (First of Four)
Polio (First of Four)
Rotavirus (First of Two)
[Note: Some of the above vaccines are combined into one shot in order to reduce the number of injections.]

4 Months:
Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis (Second of Five)
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Second of Three)
Pneumococcal (Second of Four)
Polio (Second of Four)
Rotavirus (Second of Two)
[Note: Some of the above vaccines are combined into one shot in order to reduce the number of injections.]

6 Months:
Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis (Third of Five)
Hepatitis B (Third of Three)
Influenza (Yearly)
Pneumococcal (Third of Four)
Polio (Third of Four)
[Note: Some of the above vaccines are combined into one shot in order to reduce the number of injections.]

12 Months:
Haemophilus Influenzae Type B (Third of Three)
Hepatitis A (First of Two)
Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (First of Two)
Pneumococcal (Fourth of Four)
Varicella (First of Two)

15 Months:
Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis (Fourth of Five)

18 Months:
Hepatitis A (Second of Two)
Influenza (Yearly)

3 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

4 Years:
Diphtheria/Tetanus/Pertussis (Fifth of Five)
Influenza (Yearly)
Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (Second of Two)
Polio (Fourth of Four)
Varicella (Second of Two)

5 to 10 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

11 Years:
Human Papillomavirus (First of Three)
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

11 Years Two Months:
Human Papillomavirus (Second of Three)

11 Years Six Months:
Human Papillomavirus (Third of Three)

12 to 15 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

16 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Meningococcal Booster

17 to 18 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

Recommended Adult Immunization Schedule – United States, 2015
19 to 20 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

21 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

22 to 30 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

31 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

32 to 40 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

41 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

42 to 50 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

51 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

52 to 59 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

60 Years:
Herpes Zoster
Influenza (Yearly)

61 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

62 to 64 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

65 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

66 to 70 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

71 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

72 to 80 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

81 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

82 to 90 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

91 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)
Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussis Booster

92 to 100 Years:
Influenza (Yearly)

Read more here:

Cult abuse: Shocking photos of real life Benzo Buddies member’s home

The above photos are the result of years of cult abuse and brainwashing. All this person has done the last seven years ( ! ) is sit on Benzo Buddies tapering. Both site members, and moderators, have encouraged this person to remain at Benzo Buddies and NOT seek professional help. The member could have gone to a professional rebab/detox facility and successfully conquered their drug abuse/addiction problems in a weekend’s time (with some aftercare).
Please pray for them.