Planning a half-decade long taper

5 year plan
« on: January 12, 2019, 03:14:11 am »

[Buddie]

Hello,

Since I am not looking to take this fast at all because I want to take it slowly is it absurd to want to take 2 to 3 years to be totally off my klonopin. I take 3 mg a day and have been for about 14 years. I guess I am looking at this differently then a lot of people. Since I don’t want to suffer major withdrawals I probably am going to set a goal to be at 2mg of klonopin a day within the next 365 days. Then after that I will work on trying to get to 1mg a day maybe in year two. I have been on this garbage for 14 years so what’s 2 years of dropping 2mg. I know that isn’t a lot at alll but hopefully my doctor will work with me and understand. Does anybody else out there have an approach like this or am I just a newbie that will probably change my mind. I just don’t want to suffer any withdrawal and if I just go with what my body tells me and don’t set a end date then I believe my success rate will be better

Re: 5 year plan
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 02:54:39 pm »

[Buddie]

I see nothing wrong with your approach. Dates and time lines need to be thrown out the window, along with % based tapers.

It takes as long as it takes. With the right taper method, and as long as one tapers based on symptoms, the process doesn’t have to be harrowing, rather manageable.

Member with 30 terrifying symptoms gets no help from Benzo Buddies ghouls who forced him into dangerous micro-taper

please help me - paradoxical?
« on: December 13, 2018, 03:39:59 am »

[Buddie]

I know I’ve reached out to a lot of you and it seems I almost have an allergy to this class of meds. I was only on klonipin for 2.5 weeks in May during some neuro testing for numbness, tingling and spasms. Tests for MRI and EMG came back ok. I then wanted to stop the klonipin because I felt flat and irritable and was only sleeping until 7:30. I was told to cold turkey per my doctor and had a panic attack and burning. My doc then immediately moved me to Ativan starting at 1 mg and then moving up to 1.5 and 1.75 for one night. I weaned down to 1 mg and held for a month but had horrible inter-dose withdrawal. I was dropping 25% a week and got violently ill (vomiting, light sensitivity, brain pressure) then moved me to Valium (direct cross over which really hurt my gut). Landing at 12.5 mg and I thought i stabilized. I’ve been hospitalized for hyponatremia for three days and have had an insane amount of symptoms which shook my CNS. They also gave me generic Valium pills in the hospital and generic liquid. I know all the info above sounds idiotic, but I kept telling my doctor something was wrong and asking for multiple opinions with no help. With Valium I started a cut and hold at first then liquid and had to ipdose from 8.5 to 9 Bc of hyponatremia. I’m now trying a .001 microtaper pills after trying to stabilize on 9 mg for a month. I’m still not stable and have almost electricity coming off me and a charge in my tongue and throat. I know I’ve had so many changes in a short amount of time, but I don’t feel like I can survive this even dropping .001. I have insomnia as well and have lost 50 lbs since May with muscle wasting. I know I seem like the crazy one on the forum, but I had a great job and life before this and I’m at a loss of how to move through it. Every single day I get worse. I’m wondering since I never had a proper crossover would it be an option to cross over to Librium and hold for a long time? Any advice would be appreciated. I was holding at 9 mg and still felt pretty terrible. I wish I had known about the Ashton manual before all of this. I’m currently holding. It also burns when I take the Valium.

Sxs that come and go

1. electric feeling – mouth, throat, genitals
2. insomnia
3. head pressure
4. metalic taste and smell
5. rapid aging
6. dpr
7. looping/ocd
8. burning in extremities
9. thirst
10. spasms
11. tingling
12. numbness
13. hair loss
14. twitching
15. veins popping
16. GI issues
17. dandruff
18. massive weight loss
19. muscle wasting
20. tongue spasms
21. electricity feeling off my face – this is because the hyponatremia rocked my CNS
22. DEPRESSION
23. gas
24. foot jerks
25. blinking
26. acid reflux
27. benzo belly
28. tooth pain and inflamed gums
29. tremors
30. Edema

Re: please help me - paradoxical?
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2018, 12:21:36 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone? Moderators?

Benzo Buddies censors Dr. Jenn’s LAST EVER workshop

Jennifer leigh's acceptance workshop
« on: November 30, 2018, 05:21:06 pm »

[Buddie]

Hey All

I went through Jennifer Leighs Acceptance workshop this month and it was really helpful in trying to dial down my panic and it was great having her posting a 10-30 minute live video every morning to start the day. Helped with my morning monophobia.

The course work has a large amount of content, and I filled a lot of a notebook with the interesting points of view.

She takes an angle of not concentrating on ruminating on symptoms and timelines and concentrates on positivity and spirituality.

$55 for the whole month in December and it’s her last one.

https://benzowithdrawalhelp.com/workshops-3/

I have to highly recommend!

Please spare the critical critique of Jen and Bay on this post, this is just my personal experience with this workshop and I realize that many of you do not see this type of support as helpful. thank you.

edit: commercial link deactivated. Commercial links are not allowed.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2018, 05:58:38 pm by [Buddie] »

Dr. Jenn and Baylissa both victims of threats from vicious benzo withdrawal community

Cult member: Most Benzo Buddies members don’t exist!

The Members List
« on: November 16, 2018, 05:51:16 am »

[Buddie]

Has anyone really perused the “Members List” on this forum? It just seems to me that so very many have have zero posts. There are some that make a few yet just disappear. Thoughts?

Benzo Buddies member: site 90% negative doom and gloom

Questions for those who are healed? A more positive section to add?
« on: November 05, 2018, 01:26:35 pm »

[Buddie]

Is there a specific place that members can post questions SPECIFICALLY to those who have healed?
I have not been coming here for support/encouragement as much lately because (for obvious reasons – nobody is to blame) it’s all VERY negative and gloom and doom here.
Why is that? Well, because 90% of the people here are suffering. Everyone wants to (understandably) be heard and discuss their journey/symptoms/suffering.
However, the encouragement from success stories and the sprinkling of responses from those who are healed are TRULY a blessing.
For me though, if I post a question about a symptom I have and get 12 responses from people who are “2 years out” or “36 months out” and still suffering from that symptom, it tends to throw me into a panic. So I don’t post or ask much anymore.
And if I go into a forum specifically for my “symptom” (for example: anxiety)… even just the topics that are listed can throw me into a wave for days.
It would be AMAZING to have a positive place besides success stories to get support and encouragement.
And I would hope to think that once my healing is complete I would participate in this positive section and encourage others through their journey as much as I possibly could.

Thoughts?

Benzo Buddies: There isn’t a person on the face of the earth that needs an AD

Re: Are we telling people the wrong thing ?
« Reply #43 on: November 02, 2018, 10:58:53 pm »

[Buddie]

There isn’t a person on the face of the earth that “needs” an AD. It isn’t air or food or water.

Honestly I don’t think a lot of people understand that like benzos, AD’s don’t cure anything, they can be every bit as dangerous as benzos and when you take them you are taking a big risk with your health.

I understand some people might be at the end of their rope and in those cases it might be an option to consider but in my opinion that is the only justifiable reason to take them. I would suggest anyone who is considering it to do lots of research and weigh their options very carefully.

Addict wastes five years listening to the nutcases at Benzo Buddies

5 years off
« on: October 10, 2018, 07:52:30 pm »

[Buddie]

I will be five years off everything December 4. It is very disheartening to be this far out and have so many symptoms. I’ve been in a wave since the end of May of this year. The worst symptom that I have is air hunger, dizziness, anxiety, DADP as well. And just when I thought it was going to be OK my head has a tremor. Can anyone on this board relate to me this far out? And for those of you that are not as far off as I am please don’t think that my story is going to be your story. I’m Looking for support.

SHOCKING CULT DEPRAVITY

“My hand picked up raw meat from the counter and tried to put it in my mouth… my brain was telling me to eat non-edible objects”

binge eating
« on: September 18, 2018, 01:49:36 am »

[Buddie]

While I was on benzos, I ate a lot. It was another way to cope with stress. (Along with alcohol and isolation). During my w/d alone I lost 20 pounds. I’m 26 days benzo free now and my really difficult mental sxs are starting to go away. Within the past week however, I have been overeating including binge eating. I did have a difficult social engagement on Saturday that I’m recovering from. Have my mental sxs shifted to behavioral coping like bingeing? I’ve also been hiding and hoarding food and eating alone. I’m grateful I’m not dealing with the really difficult thoughts as much but the overeating behaviors are really not healthy. Anybody else experience overeating post w/d? Is it a part of coping? A sign that I continue to heal? I feel if I restrict, the negative thoughts will come back. It’s hard for me to moderate. Thanks for your shares and thoughts

Re: binge eating
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2018, 01:57:05 am »

[Buddie]

Yeah. I lost over 30 pounds (~14kg) from my acute, and when my stomach recovered and I could eat again I managed to put all of it back on in about three months.

Re: binge eating
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2018, 02:09:42 am »

[Buddie]

Thanks for posting, […]. Did you binge eat? Why am I bingeing? I know I’m doing it and I know it’s unhealthy. I’m obese. I don’t need to put it back on. I want to get my healthy weight back that I had before I started any of these f’ing psych meds.

Re: binge eating
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2018, 12:16:48 pm »

[Buddie]

I have constant obsessional craving to binge every moment I am awake. I have been fighting it since end of last year.

It got so bad when I was off completely my brain was telling me to eat non-edible objects, my hand picked up raw meat from the counter and tried to put it in my mouth.

I crave sugar and carbs which I never did prior to this.

Re: binge eating
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2018, 02:02:34 pm »

[Buddie]

It’s like when illicit drug addicts gain weight – new “sober” sensations make things different. Food tastes amazing to me. It’s normal but needs to be controlled. A tip I have is drinking water with red cider vinegar – helps fill you up.

Re: binge eating
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2018, 03:39:28 pm »

[Buddie]

I haven’t experienced this YET in withdrawal, but I can certainly identify with the binge eating when I was still on kpin. I too lost quite a bit of weight when I jumped. I don’t know the answer now, but just wanted you to know I understand am right there with you! Hang in there.

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 18, 2018, 01:49:36 am
While I was on benzos, I ate a lot. It was another way to cope with stress. (Along with alcohol and isolation). During my w/d alone I lost 20 pounds. I’m 26 days benzo free now and my really difficult mental sxs are starting to go away. Within the past week however, I have been overeating including binge eating. I did have a difficult social engagement on Saturday that I’m recovering from. Have my mental sxs shifted to behavioral coping like bingeing? I’ve also been hiding and hoarding food and eating alone. I’m grateful I’m not dealing with the really difficult thoughts as much but the overeating behaviors are really not healthy. Anybody else experience overeating post w/d? Is it a part of coping? A sign that I continue to heal? I feel if I restrict, the negative thoughts will come back. It’s hard for me to moderate. Thanks for your shares and thoughts.

Re: binge eating
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2018, 03:40:56 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes! Food tastes SO much better to me now! Love the cider vinegar tip. Thank you.

Quote from: [Buddie] on September 18, 2018, 02:02:34 pm
It’s like when illicit drug addicts gain weight – new “sober” sensations make things different. Food tastes amazing to me. It’s normal but needs to be controlled. A tip I have is drinking water with red cider vinegar – helps fill you up.

Re: binge eating
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 04:29:11 pm »

[Buddie]

I can’t taste or feel anything in my mouth properly.

Sometimes things taste rotten and disgusting.