Most of the benzodiazepine addicts, that haunt Benzo Buddies and the secret Facebook groups, describe themselves as totally disabled: needing to crawl to the bathroom, experiencing auditory and visual hallucinations, unable to walk (Alee Sun/Ally Nugent claims she needs a walker years off benzos), claims that a single apple causes a night of myoclonic jerking and that a stick of chewing gum can send them into months-long waves, etc. Why should they be allowed to drive? Do you want to share the road with some poor, mentally ill drug addict who thinks Kentucky Fried Chicken is a government plot to poison them?
During their often years-long tapers, they should lose their driving privileges. As many addicts relapse, post-taper they should be subject to random drug testing – as a condition of the taper. This should be enforced by the state and the prescribing doctor.
Society has to be protected from drug abusers who break the law and drive just as we protect it from drunk drivers.
Norway test drivers for BZO « on: July 13, 2016, 07:05:52 am »
OMG, the repercussions this will have to people who have been off the drug for weeks will be jailed/fine for driving under the influence of BZO, unlike a alcohol test this does not measure a percentage, but just the fact its in your system. I can understand this for truck drives, public transport, but to random test drivers for BZO is outrageous. Because of the fact it not measured in percentage to lawfully drive. Someone who has been off the drug will test for weeks and weeks.
Re: Norway test drivers for BZO « Reply #1 on: July 13, 2016, 08:03:35 am »
This is actually what got my mother to start her tapering! She put her car in the garage and started the day she found out! I imagine that she is not the only one!
Re: Norway test drivers for BZO « Reply #2 on: July 13, 2016, 08:09:27 am »
This thread may be useful to see how it actually will effect drivers with the new rules!
Re: Norway test drivers for BZO « Reply #3 on: July 13, 2016, 08:32:06 am »
Problem is there is no way to detect the percentage of the drug BZO in your system, unlike driving with illegal drugs, which is understandable, BZO will test you positive, even weeks after stopping, So you will be charged with driving as if you took 3 or 4 10 mg doses, make no difference whether or not you stopped weeks ago. The time and money involved to clear you would be enormous, let alone the jail time and fine, maybe you could win in court but that would be a long and expensive road, and for those that cannot afford will suffer the wrath of the judicial system. I really am frustrated people using BZO prescribed are targeted the same as ifusing cocain or crack or any other illegal drug!
Re: Please remove my membership and blog « Reply #27 on: September 25, 2011 at 05:59:09 PM »
I’m confused. Gail was in on this from the very beginning, as a matter of fact. She and Jon were the instigators of the entire chain of events at BW. She was the one who gave out Mike59’s personal information to everyone so they could post it all over BW and other places on the internet. Many players who play innocent but are guilty behind the scenes, as I previously mentioned. Don’t forget that she was a moderator for a short time at BE. I had occasion to witness her intense hate for Mike59. There is no question in my mind that she is deeply involved in this current feud.
Another thing that I am confused about is why we would need to bring Ross in on all of this. He has managed to stay out of all of it completely, having most of these people, save Flick, as members of his forum. What would his forum have to do with you encouraging me to ban Mike59? Also, are you saying that you would be willing to ban Donny?
Yes, we are not 100% sure of who is completely involved. Like I said, there are many players and none are innocent.
There is Jon, Gail, Flick, Robyn Hayle, Jim (Befuddled), Jannie Tyme (Whoopsie) and maybe others that I don’t know about. Zoe, although she is not a member on BE as far as I can see and I don’t know whether she is a member here. If you banned Mike59 as a gesture to the members of BW then you do know that there were others that caused many problems there too.
I’m not sure of your reasoning behind that gesture, to be honest.
TC is a moot point since he is already banned from most all forums. I’m sure he rubbishes everyone he can if he gets mad at them. He has issues. I haven’t been to TRAP in years except to make sure my account was secure there a few weeks ago and to ask for his help with a woman in his country who has subsequently passed away last fall.
Again, I am making the gesture/offer. We may never do it perfectly but it is the fairest thing to do. Whether BW or TRAP participates or not, it will send a message that we will no longer stand for what is happening, that we have a common goal and that is to stand up for what is right, and get on with encouraging, supporting and helping others in withdrawal.
OMG…LOL 500 Z….who cares about Jon’s short list.
Jon is the proverbial criminal, weakling and sloth. Most criminals cry misunderstanding and innocence and use any kind of organized system to further their sociopathic delusions of grandeur.
Jon wanted to be the big man on benzowithdrawal. Jon posted pictures of himself with people he felt were influential. Nobody knows, to this day, who they are. Jon posts in bold and claims it’s because he doesn’t see well so he can direct attention toward himself. Old people like Jon need reading glasses. Jon is a pathological liar.
Jon took drugs and drank as a young child. He liked it and boasts about it. His brain has been ruined by his constant compulsion to self-medicate and get loaded. Jon is a criminal alcoholic/addict who likes to drink. Jon also smokes marijuana and takes opiates on a consistent basis but never speaks about it in his posts because he is secretly afraid of rejection or persecution. This is why Jon always tries to make himself into a big man. Jon wants command and control over things like benzowithdrawal.com. Jon also thrives on having some type of sinister control over other people, particularly women. He cannot stand if someone else is getting more attention than he is and will connive in any underhanded way to achieve his imaginary status. Jon has always hated M59 because M59 is charismatic and intelligent. Jon fought hard to push M59 off of the forum so he could reclaim his imaginary status. Jon was so busy planning M59’s demise that he didn’t realize it would backfire on him like it did.
Jon boasts about the many relationships he’s had with women on benzowithdrawal.com. Jon accuses people of being predators. Jon has a severe case of psychological transference.
Most people can’t stand Jon. Jon’s children can’t stand him. Jon embarrasses his children so they ask him to stay away.
Jon will use you and lie to your face with the guise of someone who cares and one you can count on when the going gets tough. Jon has no conscience and will turn on you at the drop of a hat.
Jon sells drugs to benzowithdrawal.com members and then threatens to expose them for their addictions and secrets if he decides he doesn’t care for their behavior. He will threaten you both privately and publicly as well as try to threaten and expose you at his whim. Before he even engages in a transaction or conversation with you he will have thought it out as to what he will be able to use against you in the future should the need arise.
Jon has Napoleon complex:
Napoleon complex is an informal term describing an alleged type of inferiority complex which is said to affect some people, especially men, who are short in stature. The term is also used more generally to describe people who are driven by a perceived handicap to overcompensate in other aspects of their lives. Other names for the term include “Napoleon syndrome” and “Short Man syndrome”.
Urban Dictionary says: napoleon complex – A personality complex that consists of power trips and false machismo to make up for short height and feelings of inferiority.
Jon has short lists because he is probably short just like Napoleon and George Costanza.
If you have a secret don’t tell it to Jon. He is dangerous and takes sadistic pleasure in exposing you and witnessing your social withdrawal.