FEAR OF BACON

Bacon
« on: September 14, 2017, 01:08:16 pm »

[Buddie]

Anyone have any trouble with bacon when in pretty accute state? I really need to eat a piece of bacon… Please, any opinions good or bad.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 05:19:45 pm »

[Buddie]

I understand your query. True – I don’t have any problems now, but i’m 3.7 years out. When I was in acute, milk products kind of gave me loose stool (not quite diarrhea). I had a fair bit of reflux and a little bloating. It wasn’t terrible, but I did have some minor GI issues/food sensitivities. I could pretty easily treat those ‘issues’ (e.g. with OTC antacids) or I could just ignore them (e.g. loose stool). I only dropped one ‘food’ (an artificial sweetener that seemed to give me hot flashes followed by night sweats). But it’s true – GI issues weren’t as big a withdrawal symptom for me compared with some of the other symptoms (insomnia had to be my most debilitating symptom). Perhaps others will chime in about bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2017, 04:41:39 pm »

[Buddie]

There is uncured and no nitrate bacon.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2017, 12:50:24 am by [Buddie] »

Re: Bacon
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2017, 06:07:37 am »

[Buddie]

Guys slightly off topic, but I added coconut oil to my diet yesterday (and i am going to create a new thread for this). Now it did not seem to rev me up, that is I did not 30 mins later suddenly start panicking, or tiwtching or anything like that BUT it kind of made me extremely mellow… EXTREMELY, as if I just hit a fat green weed flavoured pegasus bong. Following this I have never felt so chilled, not in 5 weeks, sleepy and chilled and well calm… NOW im no scientist and I should probably be thankfull but im worried AF now. How cna that be. Does coconut oil mess with your GABA receptors? I think its good to have fats like coconut oil in your brain right for nerve healing, but whats up with that effect? Would you all be worried? IS coconut oil one of those foods that we should be avoiding like certain herbs that people avoid which interact with GABA? Any feelings on this? then we can go back to the bacon.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2017, 11:54:25 am »

[Buddie]

new girl do you weigh 42 kg’s? eish…. I may have some other issues rolled in though. doctors are sending me for MS screening. I am fine most days then out of the blue I get hit with these head symptoms, I become instantly dumb, feels like there is a block in the left side of my face, struggle to think and concentrate, get deeply detached and hazy. Very scary. I am hoping that is not he case. I was free of this best for 10 months, and then I took like 55 times the amount of vitmain b complex that a normal human should take per day for 3 days and suddenly anxiety started, then physical symptoms and now full on cognitive symptoms. So my problems are pretty huge right now. I dont know if this think is a benzo relapse, some kind of permanent damage from the high number of multivitamins I took (which in hindsight I have learned can actually do nerve damage) or some sort of MS attack. Very scary. I am HOPING like hell it is a just a benzo fall back and not MS or the multiple types of complications that vitamin hypertoxicity can cause. Its pretty scary. I’m pretty chilled by its a scary place. the fact that symptoms come and go tell me its very possibly a benzo wave. But it has lasted 5 weeks now with very little improvement if any. At least on the mental side. I think that I have just generally damaged my nervous system at this point, who knows.

Re: Bacon
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2017, 12:40:43 pm »

[Buddie]

Oh, […], I’m so sorry to hear you have these terrible symptoms, must be really tough! 

It’s good that you are seeing some doctors about this, even if they don’t find anything, it’s better to be reassured. I don’t have much experience with PAWS, as I am still tapering, so I don’t have much advice here, maybe you could also post in the Post-withdrawal support thread about this?

Just out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what did you take the vitamin b complex for? And how did you manage to obtain such a high dose?

Big hugs and all my strengths to you!!! I hope you’ll get soon over this!

Re: Bacon
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2017, 12:58:29 pm »

[Buddie]

NewGirl,

I’m a complete idiot. it was a collection of vitamins that I had built up over probably the space of a year and a half. I got a mild headache and thought hey maybe I will just give myself a vitamin BOOST and that will clear it up. it was 6 different bottles. 3 were B-complexes, one was a Maxi-B, one was an iron and folate (which also had B vits), and the other 2 were multivitamins. All had B-complexes all of them basically. I had been healed for o long that withdrawal was no longer a part of my life, I was healed 100 percent. I never even thought ” hey this could trigger me” thats how war out and healed I was. I took all 6 pills each day for a few days, I might have even doubled up on one day. Im so embarrassed even typing this actually, its like i potentially threw my life away. the damage seems permanent and I seem VERY sensitive to foods, I think high vitamin b-6 foods. So i eat no meat. I am eating enough in my opinion to maintain my weight but alas it still drops at least 250 grams a day… SO in short, my issues may not even be benzo related, I may have simply poisoned my nervous system (potentially fatally), especially if I cant eat meat. Im basically holding on, hoping my weight doesnt drop to levels where they have to hospitalize as this would lead to medicating by doctors who dont understand benzo withdrawal let alone vitmain hypertoxicity. so I want to avoid that. You see, im not sure if this is maybe a benzo setback, GOD i hope it is NewGirl. then I know i have hope. If it is poisoning then I dont think I see the year out. Which I have made peace with actually. Its just my kids that worry me… My heart is breaking for my kids, one is 4 and the other is 4 months. All I can do is hold on. its so complicated, what if i get diagnosed with MS but it isnt MS and they treat me and it aggravates my potential benzo withdrawal further. What if it really is MS and they medicate me with steroids or something that I would obviously need but that is not compatible with my benzo history? Do I then live my whole life in withdrawal due to the medication that I need to live continuously triggering withdrawal? Its a complete mess. OR it is vitamin hyper toxicity and the doctors hospitalize me and pump me FULL of nutrients to help me pick up weight, including more B-vits thus doing more damage. SO Ja, I went from being in the absolute best position ever, healed from benzo withdrawal after just a month and a half (maybe 2 months) to basically the worst position that a mortal person could be in. I basically check mated myself. Apologies for the long respond and for killing the fun nature of the post.

And dont worry, surprisingly my mind is in the right place regardless of all of this, I am getting used to it. the thing that makes me worry that its not withdrawal but more just some kind of permanent toxicity damage to the nervous system is that it has reached a point where it just isnt improving at all. Im hoping something just happens and it begins to lift or fade with time, like the nerve damage can magically heal over time. But in the mean time im not sure what to eat and what to avoid so as to fascilitate this repair. Real tough. I live with a lot of powerful anxiety which is not in the mind but in the nervous system, if you have withdrawn from benzos then you know what that feels like, I have detachment, fear, pain in limbs, tired limbs. So unbelievable, and I was a new man, healed, new house, new kid, beautiful wife. All pretty much on its way out. Tough one.

Apologies again 

Ashton disciples claim bug spray revs them up

Bug Spray
« on: May 18, 2017, 01:10:03 pm »

[Buddie]

I used a little bug spray yesterday night and I swear it reved up my symptoms so badly. Nerve pain was out of control!!!

Could it have been the chemicals in the spray? It had DEET in it too.

Re: Bug Spray
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 08:30:36 pm »

[Buddie]

It could be. Some people have claimed sensitivity to solvents during withdrawal (e.g. fresh paint or cleaning solvents).

Kooky Monday: Potatoes contain diazepam

POTATOES contain DIAZEPAM !!! MOTHER NATURE is mad...
« on: March 12, 2017, 04:05:53 pm »

Hi All,
i put what i have read
is it true?? if YES i won’t eat potatoes anymore for years !!  

post @ poppies.org

“We must be talking the atropa alkaloids right? No….not really…in the last few years it was noticed that plants such as wheat and potatoes accumulated benzodiazepines…more recently it was demonstrated that sterile plant cultures (Solanum tuberosum and Artemesia dracunculus) are capable of synthesizing various 5-phenyl-1,4-benzodiazepines (the pharmacologically active type) including diazepam, N-desmethyldiazpam, delorazepam, delorazepam, lorazepam etc…(see Kavvadias et al, 2000 Biochem Biophys Res Comm 269:290) thus indicating that the plant (and not some bacterial or fungal contaminant) is producing these compounds. In this paper, they culture a number of plants in sterile conditions including potato (Solanum tuberosum) and French tarragon (Artemesia dracunculus) and then identified the presence of these compounds using benzodiazepine receptor assays (using brain membranes) and via preparative HPLC-ESI- MS/MS using known benzodiazepine standards for comparison. So it seems pretty certain that these plants really are producing these compounds (albeit in low amounts – for example temazepam was found at 100-450 ng/g FW in potato cultures). The pathway to these compounds is also totally unknown really…it has been suggested that a pathway similar to that found in penicillium leading to cyclopeptine and utilizing anthranilate, tyrosine and glycine to form the benzo skeleton is responsible for their formation at least in these fungi…i have my suspicions that the whole pathway is based on benzoic acid, glycine and anthranilate in plants however, with a mechanism similar to that used in the biosynthesis of tryptophan…anyways…

does anyone else want to put in their two cents on this?

can we start engineering potatoes to produce benzos?

Not that i really consider the benzos to be sacramental in anyway, but i don’t know what other forum to post this in…”

Freak show: “Orange juice revving me up”

Orange juice revving me up
« on: January 11, 2017, 06:58:47 pm »

[Buddie]

Just like the title says I’ve been drinking a small glass of OJ in the AM for the past few days. Today I notice increased w/d symptoms like cog fog, dizziness, and a bit anxiety. I always drank a small amount daily but stopped several months ago because I suspected it was revving up my symptoms.

Anyone else experience this too? I know we can get food sensitivities maybe this is one for me. I hope it goes away. Does anyone know an explanation for this? Is it the VitaminC?

Thanks buddies.

Becky 

BAD SANTA

waves with Chocolate
« on: December 27, 2016, 07:31:48 pm »

[Buddie]

I have eaten 500 gr of chocolate with spices
Cinamon, ginger….
It was delicious
But a terrible Tinnitus is back
Horrible
I have 2 Boeing engines in my ears
WTF
Santa Benzo hits again

Pretty soon Moran’s brainwashed kooks won’t be able to eat anything

Did vegetarianism cause my anxiety or make it worse?
« on: August 14, 2016, 04:20:45 am »

[Buddie]

I’ve thought about this one a lot. My anxiety really kicked into high gear in 2004 when two things happened. I started Prilosec and I stopped eating meat. Since 2008 I’ve been eating chicken and fish again (I can’t eat dairy, it wrecks my stomach). I think I’ve felt better, but all my levels are still low. Iron, B12, etc. It’s caused me to wonder again if I should consider eating red meat again. Thoughts?

Ashton tapers cause tongue twitching

twit

Did anyone have weird tongue symptoms?
« on: August 14, 2016, 01:45:29 am »

[Buddie]

I get this weird taste in my mouth, almost metallic or like perfume. I also get tongue twitches and like a feeling that I have something on my tongue, crawling or kind of like pop rocks or food is stuck there. Anyone else have this? The taper also gives me heartburn, so maybe it’s that as well?

What other symptoms did you guys feel?, the sensitivity to hear, red ears, nausea, and vision disturbance is driving me insane.

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Withdrawal causes plantar fasciitis?

Plantar fasciitis
« on: June 30, 2016, 07:30:38 am »

[Buddie]

Ive always felt like it was kind of uncomfortable on my heel bones to walk on hard floors, but not so much that it was a problem. I ways felt like I had boney feet,and it was never like a sharp pain or radiating to the arch of my foot like they describe for plantar fasciitis. But now because of my muscle issues and nausea from withdrawal I spent over 2 months basically bedridden. Now when I walk on hard floors it hurts my heel bones more. If I press on that area it doesnt hurt at all, I’m wondering if I just am not used to walking on hard floors so they are more tender now? My heels have defintely got less callus on them now. It seems like with plantar fasciitis youd feel some pain in more than just the point where your heel bone hits the floor. Does anyone else have discomfort like this?

Re: Plantar fasciitis
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 03:17:28 pm »

[Buddie]

I went through plantar fascists in both feet. My foot doctor made a little support for me that helped (I think they’re available at pharmacies now), but it still took nearly a year for it to resolve entirely for the first foot. I didn’t want to go through that with the 2nd foot, and got a cortisone shot (along with wearing the support).

My foot doctor told me to never walk barefoot – to always give the arch some kind of support. He also advised soaking my foot in ice water a few times a day for 7-8 minutes (but not too long).

Re: Plantar fasciitis
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 03:51:44 pm »

[Buddie]

Agree with […]–your feet will heal, it just takes time. Get some really good supportive inner-soles. I like the kind that you heat and form to your feet, I got mine at REI. You will know when you find the right ones as your feet will feel better almost immediately. Wear these supports in all your shoes until your feet are healed, including around the house, the minute you get out of bed. I wear mine in my work boots all the time. Needless to say, heels are out of the question now.

Re: Plantar fasciitis
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2016, 06:56:29 pm »

[Buddie]

Thanks guys. I got some better shoes yesterday so ill stop going barefoot in the house. When you have plantar fasciitis isnt it more like a shooting pain when you step down? I dont have that and my feet dont feel sore at all, it just feels uncomfortable and bony where my heel bone hits the floor. It was always kind of uncomfortable that way for me just not as much so im wondering if maybe after beins basically bedridden my feet are just not used to it anymore.

Re: Plantar fasciitis
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 01:29:30 am »

[Buddie]

Yes, plantar fasciitis is extremely painful, especially the first few steps. So it could very well be that you don’t have it. But providing more support for your feet is always the best thing to do if you are having foot issues, and I’m sure they will improve over time.

Re: Plantar fasciitis
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2016, 02:35:33 am »

[Buddie]

Yeah, the first few steps are the most painful, then the pain eased for me. But it can slowly creep back during the course of the day especially if you’re on your feet a lot.

Freak show: Add tomato juice, tomatoes, cheddar cheese and whole wheat bread to things Ashton’s kooks can’t eat

Could diet be causing symptoms?
« on: May 27, 2016, 11:16:20 pm »

[Buddie]

I was feeling a little more normal this morning, which is unusual. Mid-morning I had yogurt, banana & kiwi for snack. Lunch I had avacado, cheddar cheese, sliced tomato with butter, mayo on 2 slices of 100% whole wheat bread with glass of tomato juice.

About 1/2 hr later I became extremely tired so closed my eyes and tried to nap but got my regular 10 min toxic nap where I woke up in burning nerve pain, very anxious.

For those who know nutrition, could what I ate have caused this? I’m low in potassium so need the tomato/banana a potassium pill upsets my stomach.

Thank you.

Sunny

Re: Could diet be causing symptoms?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 11:42:26 pm »

[Buddie]

Try eliminating the tomato and the tomato juice and see if you feel better. Try for a day. If it works, I’ll tell you my hunch. Can’t hurt.

Re: Could diet be causing symptoms?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2016, 01:38:06 am »

[Buddie]

Cheedar cheese…whole wheat bread… , the question is answerd