Cult member praises anti-doctor brainwashing

Unlearning the lies benzos told me
« on: March 09, 2017, 03:06:43 pm »


As you can see, I am tapering from Ativan, directly. I dose only once a day, which produces interdose withdrawals. It’s not easy, but none of it is for any of us. It’s not just me. I cut last night, and today is terrible. Chest pain and palps. Anxiety. Anyway, this morning I am deciding to try to unlearn everything that Ativan has taught my body…here are some lies that Ativan taught my body…
1. You can’t handle your anxiety or insomnia. You need me.
2. What, you are going to go off me, gonna cut me out of your life slowly? No, you need more of me!
3. See, you can’t sleep without me. Here you are cutting me out of your life. You need more of me, not less. And I will fight you to prove it.
4. You are so sick: your tummy hurts, your head hurts. You need me. Just don’t cut me out. I will make you feel better.
5. See, you are cutting me out of your life, and your anxiety is worse. And you aren’t going to get better until you add me back into your life.
6. Oh, your chest hurts? Your heart is racing? Feel those occasional thumps, all me baby! Let me in and it will feel better!
7. Tinnitus, hmm. I will make you forget about it. It won’t exist.
8. Honey, I see your tears and hear your failure. You’re a failure because of me. Let’s start all over. Those tears and fails will go away.
9. Your body isn’t dependent on me. I only hurt you now because you are pushing me away instead of adding me to your life.
10. Life as you know is changing. You have lost interest in everything and it’s not my fault. You chose to give me up.
11. I am not the cause of you losing joy in your life. You miss the little moments. If you would take me back and add more of me in your life will be normal.
12. You know because you are cutting me out of your life, you are a failure. Yes, you are. You failed because you were too dumb to know what I could do to you. You chose to take me in. Now look at you, a shell of yourself, and a failure.
13. You think you are smart don’t you? Cutting me out slowly…I will create a hell that you have never experienced. You will never let me go. You will beg for me back. You wait and see.

What about you?! how has your benzo lied to you? Feel free to add. I know as I taper more, I will!

Cult leaders lie to drugged-up, mentally ill members about useless petition

Possibly biggest way to help benzo sufferers...
« on: March 07, 2017, 09:56:40 am »


The link to this petition takes TWO minutes to sign, very easy. On my benzo legal group, I’ve been informed that this UK inquiry may be the single biggest thing that can be done toward our benefit. With enough signatures (1000 needed, we have about 500 right now)…it would enable British victims of benzos to speak before parliament on their horrible medical experience with benzos. This has the potential to change the game with benzos…to bring medical awareness, to change how these meds are prescribed, to stop this harm from happening to others after us, and to compensate victims. Let’s stop the benzo pandemic so sights like this don’t have to exist. ANYONE can sign, not just UK residents. It’s extremely easy to sign. The publicity this inquiry would create would affect things around the world, not just UK. The UK has been ahead of things more so than the USA. Please spread and share with friends, post on facebook, etc….

Re: Possibly biggest way to help benzo sufferers...
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2017, 10:48:11 am »


If we get this enquiry it will be the biggest breakthrough in 30-40 years in the UK. I am in no doubt now that my doctors are LYING to me and coming up with spurious diagnoses to cover up the truth about my health problems. They are not ignorant, they are being deceitful and dishonest. I feel totally and utterly betrayed. I have lost my entire adult life to these drugs. If they had had the decency to be honest it would have helped a little. I hope my story will be in the national press but there are many other stories to be told. Prof Malcolm Lader will be a key witness if this enquiry goes ahead. He is about 70 years old so I hope it happens soon. Sadly Prof Heather Ashton is now too old and too unwell. They tried to expose this scandal decades ago. This is not just about us. It is about all patients in the future. The medical profession is making so many people sick. Hopefully any enquiry will include antidepressants.

I hope you can spare a few minutes.


Mad in America: Naked female driver leads cops on chase through two Michigan counties

SAGINAW, MI — Nearly 700 miles from home and stark naked, a 48-year-old Georgia woman led state troopers on a two-county chase at speeds of more than 100 mph Saturday morning.

The chase, which lasted around 15 minutes but covered more than 25 miles of Interstate 75, ended with the woman uninjured and taken to a hospital for evaluation, said Michigan State Police Lt. David Kaiser.

“We’re not sure if this is a drug-related incident or a medical condition,” Kaiser said.

The chase began shortly after 11 a.m. Saturday, Jan. 14, on southbound I-75 near Buena Vista Township when a vehicle passed a trooper at speeds of more than 100 mph, Kaiser said.

The woman disregarded police attempts to signal her over and continued at high speeds until she reached the Vienna Road exit near Clio, Kaiser said.

She headed eastbound on the road, saw multiple police vehicles waiting there and then attempted to head back onto I-75, northbound this time, he said.

At the northbound I-75 on-ramp, a state trooper initiated a tactical driving maneuver, spinning the vehicle out and sending it into a light pole, then a ditch, enabling police to prevent the vehicle from driving off, Kaiser said.

Officers reported the woman was naked and not making sense when they apprehended her.

The woman, police officers and other drivers on the road were not injured, Kaiser said. Although there were near misses by the woman as she wove in and out of traffic at high speeds, Kaiser said she did not hit any vehicles.

At this time, police do not know the woman’s connection to the area. The incident remains under investigation.

“Stay away from the hair dyes!”

hair dyed
« on: April 06, 2016, 02:49:37 pm »



I haven’t dyed my roots since my scared of a reaction. Bt my grey roots are not looking brilliant.

Does anyone react to hair dye-does it reve you or send you in a wave?


Re: hair dyed
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 02:26:38 am »



I was a hair stylist for 10 years before this withdrawl…
Stay away from the hair dyes! My biggest mistake in this whole process and biggest set backs were from hair chemicals. Honestly, if you wouldn’t eat it don’t put it on your skin or smell it.
I also painted my bedroom. We bought a new house through out this withdrawl and I was so excited to paint it, redo some of the rooms ect…. Huge mistake! Biggest wave I have had…..
And believe me seeing friends and family now expecially after being a stylist I was always so put together, ughhhh…..

Re: hair dyed
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 02:44:44 am »


I’ve had my highlights done during my taper at least twice and it hasn’t seemed to affect me. I go to an Aveda salon and they use more natural products (although I’m sure nothing is perfect). They are pricey but it’s worth it to me to be using more natural products and whatever they use seems less harsh on my hair and the smell is definitely not as overwhelming as what they use in other salons.

Re: hair dyed
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 09:56:57 pm »


Yes if you need to color highlights or lowlights wrapped in foil and not a tube of color sitting on your scalp for an hour or half hour is definitely better…
I have always been sensitive to chemical though… Way back a dozen yrs ago cleaners like pine sol ect… If I cleaned with them I would get headaches ect…

Benzo Buddies member asks cult to brainwash parents

I need someone to talk to my parents about benzo wd..
« on: February 24, 2016, 02:14:09 pm »


Idk if its a good idea for maybe a moderator from this site to email my mom, ive been so out of alternatives that i need some help at least on getting my parents back to support me..

My crazy pdoc says i could never have wd from 2 weeks 5 mg ct ativan, even though i had been in protracted wd of klonopin before (i was once on chemical dependency, he should know chemical dependency is for life)

Now he says i have a personality disorder thats hysteria, and that all sxs im feeling (phyisical and mental) are psychological and being made by me. He says only therapy can treat me.

I needed someone with age, with good sources, who could rationally email my father or mother and explain to them that benzo wd exists, that im suffering, and that im not hysterical just bc some doc who got me addicted to benzos says i am when he cant deal with what hes done.

Thank you guys in advance, i really think this might work a lot for me..

Re: I need someone to talk to my parents about benzo wd..
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 03:37:45 pm »


Sorry you aren’t getting support from your family. Must be very frustrating and saddening. I cannot give much advice other than to show your parents everything on this site— the protracted members talk a lot about thier ongoing symptoms so that would be a good start. Have they ever looked at any of the online resources like the ashton manual? Pick out a few success stored written by bb members who suffered for a long time. I was never a sad or depressed person before benzos. I’ve been off of them for nearly 6 months and they still continue to ruin my life. It’s torment and the public, especially our family members, need to know this! You can also join beating benzos on Facebook if you need additional support. There has been many articles written by survivors that aim to educate families affected by benzo withdrawals.

Re: I need someone to talk to my parents about benzo wd..
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 03:43:36 pm »


Have your parents read this from an addiction doctor in Toronto. Your Brazilian psych should have his license revoked.

Re: I need someone to talk to my parents about benzo wd..
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2016, 04:07:28 pm »


You kindled on the atvain ! Because u all ready had prorated withdrawal and then reinstated that’s why u feel worse . Your brain is like an elephants it remembers the bad pathways from before .
I did the same with only 1 week of zopiclone.

Re: I need someone to talk to my parents about benzo wd..
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2016, 04:34:34 pm »


What does the therapy entail? I would be inclined to go with it so long as I didn’t have to take any drugs. Make that part of the agreement. At some point you might have to stop swimming against the current. Just bide your time in therapy.

Put the ball back in their court.

At the same time, unless you have life threatening symptoms, I wouldn’t be badgering your physician too much anymore. If you do what most of us do, you’ll go to the doctor and get tested for an ailment. Then you’ll be told the test come back fine. Sometimes they may say, hey you should take xyz medication for this symptom. A classic example of this is beta blockers for tachycardia that some of us get. That might be in your best interest to follow the physicians advice there.

Just stress that if they think therapy is fine, then a good therapist should be able to do this without psych drugs if the patient doesn’t want drugs.

Re: I need someone to talk to my parents about benzo wd..
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2016, 05:51:55 pm »


I know you are desperate for some help […], but draw upon your own reserves and take the advice of those who posted. We wish for everyone to remain anonymous here on the forum and not share person information such as email addresses.

Try to get your parents to read, there is so much they can learn just by reading.


Cult harpies tell addict nearly unable to walk it’s “just” withdrawal, create a signature

Almost can't walk
« on: January 22, 2016, 11:16:16 pm »


Sorry to everyone for asking so much about this topic, but it’s driving me crazy and I can’t seem to get help from anyone about it. My doctors keep jerking me around. I’ve had cramping, spasms, soreness, and stiffness in my legs for over 2 weeks now. The right calf is bad enough that it hurts to walk and I can barely extend it all the way. I don’t know what to do to improve this. Should I rest it as much as possible? keep it extended to try to relieve the stiffness and hopefully that will improve the right leg? I’m clueless and nothing I try helps. Hot baths, heating pads, ibuprofen, aleve, tried homeopathic stuff for leg cramps, no luck. I’ve been feeling so sick that I havent been walking much as it is, mostly sitting, so I have no idea if that makes it worse or what but I’m at a loss for what to do.

Re: Almost can't walk
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2016, 11:59:41 pm »


You don’t have a signature so I’m not sure where your at but leg pains are very common. Many things don’t work except time.

Cult attempts to brainwash new member with anti-psychiatry dogma

Is there a bias here against AD's?
« on: January 09, 2016, 03:24:30 pm »


I had a complete nervous breakdown at 32 and had to stop working completely. I believe that some people need AD’s (I have a significant family history of suicide – both sides of my family). I now know what benzo’s can do and am getting off them. I don’t believe they ever helped me despite terrible GAD. Is it anti-BB to continue AD’s? This is not meant to antagonize. I am new here and want to know if people like me are welcome or if this site is anti-med entirely.

Re: Is there a bias here against AD's?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 04:32:39 pm »


No, this website is not anti-med. It is not even ‘anti-benzo’, although it is intended to help people come off benzodiazepines.

There may be a bias against ADs in the sense that many people want to come off these drugs, and some people experience problems with ADs. But you’ll be completely welcome if you just want to continue the AD.

Re: Is there a bias here against AD's?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 06:35:51 pm »


BB is not an anti med website, and personally I am not anti meds, I am pro informed consent. As long as you know what you are taking and what it can potentially do there is nothing wrong with using meds for treatment. The problem is most doctors aren’t fully aware of the problems medications can cause so you really should do your own research if you are considering taking a new med.

Anyone who is considering taking a psych med (benzo, AD or antipsychotic) really needs to read Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whitaker. It is a well researched book that looks at these medications from an outside point of view and it asks the question of if these med are indeed helping, then why are the number of people on disability for the conditions these meds are supposed to treat skyrocketing?

In order to understand the true effects these drugs have you have to look at the big picture and this book allows you to see it from a different perspective, and it is one you won’t likely get from a doctor.

Re: Is there a bias here against AD's?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2016, 07:11:00 pm »


Quote from: [Buddie] on January 09, 2016, 03:24:30 pm
Is it anti-BB to continue AD’s? This is not meant to antagonize. I am new here and want to know if people like me are welcome or if this site is anti-med entirely.

Hi […],

Of course you’re welcome :) We are not anti-medication, we are a collective group of people who are struggling to find a way to taper and recover from benzos.

With that being said, there are varying opinions (on the forum and in “real” life) about the use of SSRI’s and wether or not they’re actually effective. I am currently on an SSRI and can’t wait to get rid of it, but it will have to tapered very slowly and carefully after 13 years use.

As […] mentioned, Anatomy of an Epidemic is a terrific, and well researched book, about psychotropic drugs. Anyone who is on one should read it, IMO.

MSG terror grips Ashton devotee

Please don't hate me.
« on: January 01, 2016, 03:15:11 am »


For those of you struggling just to get through the day, please know that I understand. I almost wish that I didn’t, as it was horrendous to go through, but I got through the brutal part. I am just having difficulty rebuilding my life.

It’s New Year’s Eve, and although I used to lovvve getting dressed up and going out, I just don’t think I can do it. Don’t get me wrong, it’s certainly not critical. I just thought that I’d be better by now. I’m at month 19. :( I am struggling with fatigue, as my symptoms have been resurfacing a bit. Thankfully, they’re fairly mind and are only evident if I am exposed to something like MSG (where as before, I simply felt awful all day every day). So, I can control how I feel a lot more than I used to. However, for some reason, the fatigue really get to me. And, nothing seems to combat it -not even full strength coffee (yes, I can actually tolerate that now and then).

I have an invitation to a formal black tie affair tonight, and even though I have a lovely dress and heels to wear, I just don’t have the energy to get ready, let alone go. :(

I suppose I should just be grateful that I got through the brunt of this. It’s just so frustrating that it’s not completely over. I want my life back. I want to feel excited about life again. I want to participate fully. I want to feel energized. I want to feel happy.

So, please pardon me if it seems like I’m complaining because I’m not up for an event, because I am. However, I know that it’s nothing in comparison to just trying to bear getting through a single day, but once you get passed the worst of this, you too, will want to return to fully participating in life.

If anyone has any thoughts of encouragement, please share that with me – especially if you have been through this and understand where I’m at.

And to all of you, Happy New Year. May we be grateful to have come to understand how benzos were affecting us. May we have the strength to get through this – all of the way through this. And, may this coming year be much better.