Renegade member accuses Benzo Buddies of being a cult

Re: Mclean's Hospital Boston MA
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2017, 04:46:11 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on July 25, 2017, 02:48:46 pm
Quote from: [Buddie] on July 25, 2017, 02:26:48 pm
I am just looking for a doctor or two to help me in my journey with this challenging problem.

I think people on this thread are reading a lot of their own experiences into a very benign internet article.

The link you posted is not a benign internet article.

It is a sales pitch from McLean Hospital. Please reread it.

http://www.mcleanhospital.org/news/2016/08/02/tapering-addictive-therapies

[…],

Really?? It’s just an article. Not advertised on Twitter or YouTube or anything else.

Just a stupid article that I had to dig to find for after numerous upon numerous attempts on Google search.

I already talked to a doctor there that said you shouldn’t do more that a cut of 10% and that you can do liquid titration.

People here are a little overboard. Now I can see where the claims that this place is a cult are coming from (probably some upset ex-members).

The article does not say it’s going to be easy. Please show me where that is implied.

Oy vay! I’m starting to think this is a misery loves company forum and I really just came here for some help — not to be talked in to more symptoms than I already have.

Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Former cult members speak out on cult suicides

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/13 at 6:04 pm

They ARE responsible for Darrin dying!!!! Adding a disclaimer to the signature line AFTER the fact is nothing but a knee jerk reaction!!!! Where was this disclaimer when Darrin was posting?Would you tell a diabetic not to take insulin because the doctors and pharmacies are in cohoots??????? So EVERY psychiatrist is an unethical dumbass? SO NO ONE actually suffers FROM A MENTAL CONDITION!!!!!!!!!! Why is that??? because mental conditions DO NOT EXIST!!!!! Oh now that makes sense. So really the field of psychiatry is total bullshit!Hey lets post MENTAL CONDITIONS DO NOT EXIST AND THAT is why we should ALL GET OFF OUR MEDS. What kind of brainwashing bullshit is that!

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/14 at 7:52 am

and the ideal candidate must believe and swear on their life to uphold the Benzo Bud Creed: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS MENTAL ILLNESS

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/17 at 3:03 pm

Darrin’s family informed the BB of his death. Any chance they can be contacted and made aware of the dangerous advice Darrin was being told?Does Pamster think about his family and what they have endured thanks to BB’s “no drugs” dogma. They lost a loved one and will grieve him every holiday season. BB cult should have to do the same!He died Christmas Eve! How horrible for the family. Pamster should have to endure the weight of his death every single Christmas!!!the aftermath of that Christmas and every other Christmas since this occurred.

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/18 at 7:54 am

This stuff so angers me! Guy needs to follow doc advice while seeking another opinion from another doctor. Instead he gets this:“hang in there”
“hang in there”
they love to say that…..
maybe he can hang himself and then he will be “hanging in there”!!!!!

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/21 at 7:00 am

Wow, so she tells this person NOT TO POST SUICIDAL PLANS because we all know that if you don’t post it then it won’t happen right?

So a suicidal person should just not talk about it because it is not appropriate. I guess she should go kill herself quietly and not tell anyone.

If she does then she is to be REPORTED and then what Pam, you plan to BAN HER?

Telling people to get off medications and then telling them depression is a common side effect AND THEN telling them NOT to discuss the depression is truly MADNESS!!!!!!

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/21 at 2:52 pm

according to the Benzo Buddies, it is ALL JUST BENZO WITHDRAWAL!!! and there is no such things as Mental Illness, so I guess there is no need to encourage her to see a doctor, plus he may put her on meds (gasp_drugs)

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/23 at 2:21 pm

Encourage the poor woman to get some sleep!Get some sleep before you get more depressed.Seroquel, and Zyprexa which are a new class of atypical anti-psychotics thus THEY ARE NOT BENZO NOR IN THE SAME FAMILY are sometimes used for sleep aid. ….”they might think it is psychiatric”…. duh? well yes!
don’t be so damn afraid woman and stop listening to the “ANTI-DRUG” RHETORIC and get some medication and get some damn sleep!

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/24 at 7:55 am

It frustrates me when people are diagnosed while in benzo withdrawal, of course we’ll fit many labels, depression, GAD, bipolar, psychosis to name a few.PSYCHOSIS, WTF, THAT IS SERIOUS AND I DOUBT IT CAN BE BLAMED ON BENZO WITHDRAWAL!
MY GOD WHAT ARE THESE PEOPLE DOING!!!!!!!
DIDN’T THEY HAVE A DIAGNOSIS ORIGINALLY ANYWAY?????
YES BENZO TOLERANCE.. I HAVE BEEN THERE BUT TO SAY THAT PSYCHOSIS IS ACCEPTABLE TO CONSIDER OH JUST A PART OF IT.
MADNESS MADNESS MADNESS

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/28 at 7:11 am

Benzo Buddie Team is a “smidge” above just a regular nobody. I thank this website for Pamsters demotion, it shows Colin is getting scared. This site keeps attacking Pam for her dangerous comments and for the Darrin suicide, so it was time for Colin to throw her under the bus.A moderator who was a friend of mine, was demoted and eventually BANNED based on too much joking around and for having a humorous slogan in his signature line. “Humor is the Best Medicine” apparently doesn’t apply at that site…

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/10/31 at 5:01 pm

hey Pamster! tell this new one to stay on her ambien and deal with what she thinks are “left over” xanax issues first. Is Ambien evil also….????oh yea, to you ALL PSYCH DRUGS ARE EVIL.

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/11/01 at 9:23 pm

WOW, so basically this person is being told by Pam to “shut up” about her depression and show some COMPASSION for the other people on this site.

So we go from telling them that depression is a normal symptom and that if they are on any psych medications to get off of them, but if AS A RESULT OF BB’s advice it gets out of hand then shut up about it and go away!!!!

Looks like you guys are trying to cover your @$$!!!!!!

StormyRain
Submitted on 2011/12/12 at 9:22 am

Pamster, This is mavila1331 and I am one of the many many people who shared info with Mike59, and I am very glad for my role.Why, because your site was dangerous.We can look briefly at my situation.
In my situation, I went through an inpatient rapid xanax detox and put on much safer klonopin.

I then needed to of seen an outpatient doctor who would of raised the klonopin to a level where I could function and THEN SLOWLY TAPERED OVER TIME from that benzo.

This would have allowed me to work and to be with my family.

Instead I stayed with you guys and suffered horrible benzo tolerance withdrawal. My spouse had to do EVERYTHING for me….I could not even BATHE, much less be a wife.

Eventually he went away to someone who was there for him. My daughter who is bipolar became suicidal and remains on a precarious path. (do you see the RIPPLE EFFECT PAM! )

Now a few words regarding other members

I have been appalled at the suicidal feelings expressed by members and of how they are told to “hang in there” its just those pesky benzo’s.

OOps you killed yourself? Oh well, hide it from other members or downplay it so others won’t realize that maybe Benzo Buddies is WRONG, regarding the pesky benzo depression.

I have never forgiven any of you for Darrin’s suicide or for any suicide influenced by your site.

Your site supported people getting off all their psych medication, with you CHEERING all along. Did you know anything about these people mental history that made it okay for them to stop all psych drugs, even ones that treat for psychosis???

I was horrified at how members were SUPPORTED when they shared their fear of telling their doctor about the desire to die because they may go inpatient and be put on “drugs”.

Every time I tried to ADVOCATE FOR THEIR SAFETY, YOU, PAM, would move my posts, or tell me how I had an agenda and to stop posting the same advice for everyone on the “Depression” section, or one of your goonies would then post discrediting what I had said.

Maybe you should educate yourself and read about mental illness. I have lived with someone with depression who killed himself-my father.

When I shared this, it was always ignored since it went against the “all psych drugs” are bad motto and
I kept TRYING TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT SUICIDE IS REAL!!!!! I kept using my father as an example of someone who DID NOT TAKE HIS MEDS and that we can’t judge the severity of other member’s depression and tell them it will pass..

You, Pam and your group kept burying the post and supporting your GET OFF ALL DRUGS.

It is sad because Benzo Buddies was suppose to be about getting off benzo’s and then you allowed it to become a life sucking monster… Pushing people to drop ALL their psych medication.

You caused people with mental illness to suffer needlessly. I hope I can someday forgive you for Darrin’s suicide and I hope someday his family can forgive you for literally killing Darrin last Christmas!!!!

Merry Christmas Pam!

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rstud

I read over some of this tonight and it seems like Point of Return is cashing in on an epidemic. Has anyone seen this site? Do the nutriants they give work? It’s only $265, lol. rstud

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Challis99

They lost me at ‘purchase’.
Challis

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rstud

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[Name hidden]

Find anything good about magnesium?

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fishingguy

Sometimes sites like this prey on people who are desperate. I have found no shortcuts (including supplements) that have helped out with benzo withdrawal. I wish there was something we could buy that would help. Unfortunately, I haven’t found it.

fg

Re: anyone seen this???
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rstud

i’m sorry to say there are no short cuts with this nightmare. i’d try catsh** if i thought it would help!! rstud

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gail

It’s probably always a good idea to take a multiple vitamin… what with our food source being ‘compromised’ by “whatever” process – be it too early harvesting (to prevent spoilage during shipping) or antibiotics in the meats, or over processing of grains, etc.,

We are not getting all the nutrients from our foods that we were just a few generations ago, and then we have pollution to worry about, and sunscreens are depleting our vitamin D absorption. We need the vitamin boost but a good multiple vitamin and mineral is probably all we need.

I take a multiple vitamin and mineral, fish oil, vitamin E, B-complex and feverfew for controlling my migraines. (feverfew is far better than benzos for controlling my migraines)

These benzos tax our systems and – I am sure – deplete us of needed nutrients. Since I have been off the benzos (almost three years now) I am noticing much improvement in many areas … my fingernails are no longer brittle .. my skin is better, eyes are not as dry but I’m not going to list everything …

I think it is my taking the vitamins on a regular basis that has helped me heal faster, your bodies can’t do the necessary repair work without the proper chemicals, and those chemicals are the vitamins and minerals in our foods, … with our compromised food sources – we need the supplemental boost.

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