Benzo Buddies member goes back on benzos after brutal Ashton taper fails and is doing great!

a lifetime of decisions, and a long weird path back towards reinstatement
« on: July 17, 2019, 06:37:35 pm »

[Buddie]

Hello,

I had initially kept this post to a handful of staff members, but was encouraged to feel free to make a more public post.

Put simply, I am back on benzodiazepines after an extended period off, and while I have deep reservations about this, after eight months it does not yet seem to have been a mistake.

Abbreviated backstory: I was on benzos for a number of years in late adolescence / early adulthood for anxiety based reasons. I had mild tinnitus at that time (possibly attributable to many things, including a distant history of childhood ear infections). Tapering was brutal and took me 14 months, and I wrapped that up sometime in 2005. I don’t recall tinnitus ever being a problem, except briefly during parts of the taper.

In 2010, an acoustic trauma did some significant damage to my auditory system, the tinnitus turned into a wailing monster, and I used benzos again for about a year before tapering again. I spent 2011-2015 basically miserable, highly functional but chronically consumed with the violent, often painful, extremely high pitched noise in my skull. I tried all kinds of things; if there is a supplement, drug, medical practice, massage practice, alternative medicine practice that someone on Google says helped their tinnitus, I probably tried it. I also tried doing “nothing”; I learned to meditate. I learned to sleep with earplugs in spite of the noise. I spent a lot of money; I spent $10,000 to be a lab rat in one clinical trial alone (lots of travel involved).

I remain hopeful about the tinnitus treatments that are in the pipeline, but a little voice continued to say “I need to do something now”, as my life sort of passed before my eyes. I achieved significant professional success. I was able to relocate out the city to a pristine, quiet area in 2016. This did all make me feel better in some ways, but still the noise.

In late 2015, unrelated medical circumstances forced me to consider short-term PRN use of Valium, and, of course, I discovered that it still “worked” as far as taking my mind off the tinnitus. From early 2016 until November of last year, I used Valium PRN; when the tinnitus would become absolutely intolerable, I would take enough to knock it way back (usually 10-20mg over 24-36hrs), and then try to not do that again for 3-4 weeks. I became a parent over this time period, and I realized that the times I was the most medicated were also the times I felt the most joy and connection with my child. By July of 2018, I was agonizing over the idea of reinstatement, but I wasn’t sure.

I made a list of every possible tinnitus remedy that seemed reasonably attested which had not yet been attempted. It was a pretty short list which included some out there ideas like “cervical chiropracty” and “microdose psilocyban”. None the less, I crossed these items off my list as I tried them. Finally, in late November of last year, well supported by a medical team (including a prescribing doctor who is deeply aware of the hazards of benzos and necessity of a slow withdrawal), I elected to resume daily benzo use. After 2 weeks at 25% of the dose I’d previously been on long term, things felt very bad; more or less, I felt like I was in withdrawal, and I almost aborted the experiment then and there. One of my medical team persuaded me to at least attempt my full prior dose for some period of time; I also elected to supplement it with gabapentin based on some research into the combination for tinnitus specifically (and the general observation that gabapentin is much less scary than benzos, so if it can be used to supplement a benzo dose and reduce benzo consumption, that’s probably a win).

More or less I had a one month “honeymoon” where life seemed too good to be true, and as expected, that faded as tolerance became obvious and peripheral side effects also vanished. However, what I am left with, so far, is a life which is much more manageable. It’s hard to put numbers on things, but the tinnitus is more distant, it’s generally less disturbing when it does get my attention, and I’ve been able to make significant progress in my family life, in my professional life, and in therapy, which had been blocked by the state of utter discomfort, misery and despair that my tinnitus had thrown me into. The general observation of my spouse is that I am easier to talk to, more likely to listen to them, less likely to snap, and more likely to be sympathetic and caring in general.

To make a few things clear:
This was my choice and I would not encourage anyone else to do the same thing. No one’s circumstances are identical. For all I know, my use of benzos during developmental years caused problems that couldn’t self-fix, and if not for that I might not be in this situation at all. Likewise, if I had taken better care of my ears, or had better genetics around hearing, tinnitus and anxiety, I might not be in this situation. But, that doesn’t matter: the way things are, is the way things are.

I do not know the long term results of this (and neither do you) – I waited more than six months before posting this because I wanted to be sure a beneficial effect that outweighed my reservations about benzo use, would persist for some period of time after obvious tolerance had set in. It’s entirely possible that this will “stop working” at some point, and I will be left with my generally terrifying tinnitus on top of having to do another taper. But, it’s also possible that won’t happen (one of my family members has taken Klonopin with no loss of efficiency for more than 15 years) – and it’s further possible that some of the tinnitus treatments which are currently in the experimental or early marketing phase will turn out to be extremely effective, at which point attempting another taper might seem very rational to me.

I agonized over this decision more than you can possibly imagine over a five year period; eight months in, it’s given me eight of the best months of the last 10 years of my life. I am happy to answer any reasonable questions, but I ask that you respect my right to autonomy and decision making over my own body.

Addict thanks Ashton and Benzo Buddies for wasting three years of her life

The Beginning of My Third Year Tapering
« on: April 05, 2019, 12:24:23 am »

[Buddie]

April 2017, I started tapering 2 mgs of Xanax, my stomach was killing me, had all the tests, all came back showing nothing, lucky enough my husband found an article discussing benzos and stomach pain and it all fell together.  I immediately cut way too much, having no knowledge of what I was doing, but I was lucky in that the next day I started researching.  I didn’t find the Ashton Manual or BB then , just enough information to go back up immediately, the word stroke scaring me to death.  Started back down, still way too fast, withdrawals really bad.  Anxiety off the roof, shaky, heart palpitations, muscle pain, and many others.  Mostly in terrible shape.  In October, after lowering about .05 xanax found Ashton Manual, got my pain Dr to help and managed to come down another.25 for a total of.75 Xanax.  Horrible withdrawals, found BB, thank goodness, and decided to crossover to Valium, which also turned into a nightmare, my body just hated it, sedated, sick, had crossover too fast, having xanax withdrawals also.  It was awful.   I made many more mistakes during the next year, this is so hard, not the same rules for anyone.  My main symptom through all of this has been bad muscle pain, still is.  I am writing this for the people who are around a year into this and think they can’t go on, you can.   I am down to 10.56 Valium from 40 mg .  I am now doing a daily liquid micro taper, much easier than cut and hold for me, and just had a three week window, I had never had one.  So if I can make all the mistakes I did and be as miserable as I have been, know you can keep on.  Keep reading all over BB to find the way for you, ask questions, learn, get advice……my best advice, taper slowly, so many of us have run into so many walls wanting to speed this process up, all the heartache, pain and time we would have saved , if we had just slowed down.  Ashton is a fast taper for most of us, it’s a good taper but cut that % down or stretch the time frame out.  You will be glad you did.  I was on Xanax for 3 years, never dreamed this could happen, am sure you didn’t either.  I hope this helps someone, I am not a great writer like so many on here, but I wanted to share, you are not alone in your mistakes, not anything wrong you have done has not been done before and those people still healed.  Good luck everyone, you CAN do this too, it won’t be easy and it is going to take a while.   🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀 […]….read the success stories, they help!

Gratitude for psychiatry

Excerpts from benzo cult hero Stevie Nicks’ shocking new bio

  • Grammy winning singer-songwriter, Stevie Nicks snorted so much cocaine and became so addicted to the drug that she had to be shadowed to keep from falling off stage when performing and needed to have someone tuck her into bed at night
  • The Queen of Rock and Roll in the 1970s and 1980s not only had a huge hole in her nose from the cocaine, but she was warned of the imminent possibility of a brain hemorrhage if she kept up her high level of consumption
  • But it was the shocking rumors that she had reverted to using the devil’s dandruff in her vagina and rectum for the ultimate high that was the eventual motivation for her to go into rehab in 1986 at the Betty Ford addiction treatment center in Minnesota
  • The Fleetwood Mac singer admitted: “You could put a big gold ring through my septum. It affected my eyes, my sinuses. It was a lot of fun for a long time because we didn’t know it was bad. But eventually it gets hold of you, and all you can think about is where your next line is coming from”
  • “All of us were drug addicts. But there was a point where I was the worst drug addict. I was a girl, I was fragile, and I was doing a lot of coke and I was in danger of brain damage,” she told author Stephen Davis for his upcoming book, Gold Dust Woman: The Biography of Stevie Nicks

Benzo Buddies member: ‘Jennifer Leigh not benzo qualified’

Re: Has anyone here had a consultation with Dr. Jennifer Leigh?
« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2017, 04:22:38 am »

[Buddie

I must speak. I has contact with this woman years ago. She has no benzodiazepine qualifications. She was unable to comprehend grammar school science. Now she promotes herself as an expert She remains impressed with her uneducated self substituting sidling up to people whom she considers prominent. Syncophant. Potential buyers, beware. She is unqualified Soothing words with authoritative airs are not worth $100 an hour up front yet!

Benzos not to blame for singer’s death

Ativan cures migraines

The effectiveness of ibuprofen and lorazepam combination therapy in treating the symptoms of acute Migraine: A randomized clinical trial.

CONCLUSIONS: Given the greater effectiveness of combination therapy with Ibuprofen and Lorazepam in alleviating the symptoms of acute migraine compared to single-drug treatments with Ibuprofen, Lorazepam is recommended to be used as a first line treatment for acute migraine.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28461864/?i=10&from=ativan

Safe and effective Ativan helps prevent suicides

Ativan (and its generic version, lorazepam) is an extremely common drug, prescribed to millions of people every year, says Asher Simon, MD, assistant professor of psychiatry at The Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City. And overall, he says, “it can be an incredibly effective and very safe medication.”

It’s in a class of drugs called benzodiazepines, which work by slowing down the central nervous system and enhancing certain chemicals in the brain to produce a calming effect. (Other well-known benzodiazepines include Valium and Xanax.) The drug is usually prescribed on a short-term basis for the treatment of anxiety, and is often helpful for people with depression.

“It lasts about four to six hours, and a lot of times it’s prescribed on an as-needed basis,” says Dr. Simon. “We might say, ‘Take one or two pills three times a day, as needed.’” The drug starts working right away, he says; that’s why they’re sometimes recommended for people who are anxious about flying on airplanes or visiting the dentist, for example.

Ativan might also be prescribed for short-term use alongside antidepressant medications. “A lot of times when someone comes in with anxiety and you start them on an antidepressant, their anxiety can get worse before it gets better,” says Dr. Simon. “So sometimes they need a couple weeks of an anti-anxiety medication to provide immediate relief, until the antidepressant kicks in.”

Because it’s a sedative, Ativan can make people dizzy and tired when they first start taking it. It can increase the risk of falls, especially in older people, and patients are warned about driving or operating heavy machinery until they know how the drug will affect them.

But Dr. Simon says that taking an extra Ativan or two would not cause slurring or serious impairment, especially for people who have been on the drug long-term and developed a tolerance to its sedating side effects. “Yes, of course you should never take more than prescribed,” he says. “But one or two additional pills is usually not a huge deal.”

Combining Ativan with alcohol or other drugs, is much more dangerous, he says—mostly because of the potential for impaired judgment and slowed breathing and heart rate. There’s less of a chance that Ativan would cause a non-suicidal person to take their own life, says Dr. Simon. “A lot of suicide comes at a time of acute anxiety, and if it treats the anxiety it can actually prevent those suicides,” he says. “It is extremely unlikely to cause suicidal thinking in and of itself.”

http://www.bostonherald.com/lifestyle/health/2017/05/chris_cornell_s_family_thinks_ativan_may_have_played_role_in_his_suicide

“CALL ME”

call me....
« on: May 15, 2017, 08:20:35 pm »

[Buddie]

hey, i think sometimes its easier to relate to people when you actually chit chat on the phone. if anyone needs to talk, feel free to give me a call, i think it would therapeutic, i went to an anxiety meeting and found it to help me so much when i could talk to someone about my issues. its hard to find someone who understands. i know my wife doesn’t understand nor my family. so i welcome anyone, 305-305-2923. I’m not a weirdo, lol, google me if you’d like, jase haber.

Re: call me....
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2017, 08:35:28 pm »

[Buddie]

Where do you live? I am in the U.S. Will this be an out of country call?

Re: call me....
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2017, 08:37:32 pm »

[Buddie]

no i am in miami….

Re: call me....
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2017, 08:47:54 pm »

[Buddie]

Can I call you right now?

Re: call me....
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2017, 09:02:16 pm »

[Buddie]

yes

Re: call me....
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2017, 09:07:05 pm »

[Buddie]

My number is

305-305-2923

Re: call me....
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2017, 09:34:43 pm »

[Buddie]

It’s against BB rules to give out personal information such as your name and phone number and to solicit phone calls. I did Google you and what I found was ***NOT*** very complementary at all.

I would strongly caution all members! For your own safety, do not attempt to contact this person!

Re: call me....
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2017, 10:16:31 pm »

megan918

[…], this is indeed against the rules. It’s not allowed on this forum:

You are not permitted to post your contact details to the BenzoBuddies forum. Nor should you solicit the contact details of other members. Links to, or requests to join, Facebook or any other social networking websites which might potentially identify members’ true identities are not allowed

Please do not do this again. If you do, you risk not being able to post freely as a result.

[…]
Administrator

Re: call me....
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2017, 11:50:08 pm »

[Buddie]

First and foremost I had no idea this was against the rules, I don’t see anything so wrong with putting out my phone number as long as it’s in the attempt to communicate with people and help each other out. I happened to have had a great conversation with somebody that could relate to me. I apologize for offending so many of you. When this is a form this design to help each other. Sometimes it’s very difficult for me and I’m sure for others to wait for somebody to respond to a reply when they’re at that particular moment going to pure panic. Didn’t see it at such a big deal, I have no issues of anyone knowing who I am since I can be publicly looked at the Google, and I’m actually considered a public figure. Sometimes it’s very difficult for me and I’m sure for others to wait for somebody to respond to a reply when they’re at that particular moment going to pure panic. Didn’t see it at such a big deal, I have no issues of anyone knowing who I am since I can be publicly looked at the Google, and I’m actually considered a public figure. I’m not by any means ashamed of what I’m going through and have no issues helping other people that are in the same situation as I am. But again I apologize if I’ve violated the rules and any which way. But once again, I’m giving out my phone number not anyone else’s. My personal information no one else’s, it’s up to that person whether they need somebody to talk to them or not. I was really under the impression this was a form to help each other out, and I’m actually glad I put my phone number because I got to meet someone that was very cool and we happen to have a lot in common and are going to similar situations, as well as I’ve met somebody prior to that who has help me through this whole process. But I will make sure not to post it again since it’s obviously against the rules.

Re: call me....
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2017, 11:58:00 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 15, 2017, 09:34:43 pm
It’s against BB rules to give out personal information such as your name and phone number and to solicit phone calls. I did Google you and what I found was ***NOT*** very complementary at all.

I would strongly caution all members! For your own safety, do not attempt to contact this person!

You googled me, you would see I’m a successful actor as well as business man. So please do not even think for one minute you know me.

Re: call me....
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2017, 12:08:56 am »

megan918

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 15, 2017, 11:50:08 pm
First and foremost I had no idea this was against the rules, I don’t see anything so wrong with putting out my phone number as long as it’s in the attempt to communicate with people and help each other out. I happened to have had a great conversation with somebody that could relate to me. I apologize for offending so many of you. When this is a form this design to help each other. Sometimes it’s very difficult for me and I’m sure for others to wait for somebody to respond to a reply when they’re at that particular moment going to pure panic. Didn’t see it at such a big deal, I have no issues of anyone knowing who I am since I can be publicly looked at the Google, and I’m actually considered a public figure. Sometimes it’s very difficult for me and I’m sure for others to wait for somebody to respond to a reply when they’re at that particular moment going to pure panic. Didn’t see it at such a big deal, I have no issues of anyone knowing who I am since I can be publicly looked at the Google, and I’m actually considered a public figure. I’m not by any means ashamed of what I’m going through and have no issues helping other people that are in the same situation as I am. But again I apologize if I’ve violated the rules and any which way. But once again, I’m giving out my phone number not anyone else’s. My personal information no one else’s, it’s up to that person whether they need somebody to talk to them or not. I was really under the impression this was a form to help each other out, and I’m actually glad I put my phone number because I got to meet someone that was very cool and we happen to have a lot in common and are going to similar situations, as well as I’ve met somebody prior to that who has help me through this whole process. But I will make sure not to post it again since it’s obviously against the rules.

Hello again,

Thanks for getting back to us and agreeing to follow the rules, but I want to make a few things perfectly clear, especially since we know you’ve published a book about your career as a professional con man:

You agreed to abide by the rules when you joined, as we all did. We have these rules to protect all of our members, and it doesn’t matter who you are or what you think about our rules – you still have to abide by them. This is a private club, not a democracy, and we reserve the right to terminate anyone’s membership if they are deemed in any way dangerous to others on the forum. We take these responsibilities very seriously. This is what appears over every pm sent or received:

Unfortunately, like the wider Internet, BenzoBuddies is not immune from those who would seek to misrepresent themselves as counsellors, doctors, confidants, etc. We have suffered our fair share of those whose only motivation in life is the desire to hurt others. It would be fair to describe one or two of these people as unhinged and a menace. Please do not share your contact information and personal details through the PM (Personal Message) system or the open forum.

Re: call me....
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2017, 12:16:30 am »

megan918

Yes, I Googled you alright, make no mistake about that. Your definition of “success” and “business” is the antithesis of mine. Sad that you’re so proud of your past accomplishments. You go your own way and I’ll go mine.

Re: call me....
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2017, 12:18:14 am »

[Buddie]

The book I published is nothing more than a book, I highly doubt you read it to even know anything about me. Don’t go by a title with out even knowing the full story. Judging me without even reading the book. I’m sure you also saw the influencing people I know in Hollywood. Don’t go by a cover, read before judging. My book was based on helping people, I dealt with millions of dollars, believe me my intentions are harmless in this forum. Just wanted to help someone in need. Pretty sure no one here is perfect

Re: call me....
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2017, 12:20:30 am »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 16, 2017, 12:16:30 am
Yes, I Googled you alright, make no mistake about that. Your definition of “success” and “business” is the antithesis of mine. Sad that you’re so proud of your past accomplishments. You go your own way and I’ll go mine.

That book was based on my mistakes. Mistakes I made when I was in my twenties, I’m now in my thirties and have managed to succeed the right way! Do your research, don’t just look at a book I published. Just saying, people shouldn’t be judging in this forum

Re: call me....
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2017, 12:30:22 am »

[Buddie]

[…],

I would really like this thread deleted. I feel I’m being judged for making an attempt to help someone and help myself as well. I was just seeking help and didn’t know the rules

Re: call me....
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2017, 12:33:11 am »

megan918

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 16, 2017, 12:30:22 am
[…],

I would really like this thread deleted. I feel I’m being judged for making an attempt to help someone and help myself as well. I was just seeking help and didn’t know the rules

We don’t delete threads that have received replies. It would be best for everyone to just move on now. There are lots of other members who need support and many other threads to post on.

Re: call me....
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2017, 12:37:52 am »

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 16, 2017, 12:20:30 am
Quote from: [Buddie] on May 16, 2017, 12:16:30 am
Yes, I Googled you alright, make no mistake about that. Your definition of “success” and “business” is the antithesis of mine. Sad that you’re so proud of your past accomplishments. You go your own way and I’ll go mine.

That book was based on my mistakes. Mistakes I made when I was in my twenties, I’m now in my thirties and have managed to succeed the right way! Do your research, don’t just look at a book I published. Just saying, people shouldn’t be judging in this forum

I’ve already told you that I did my research. You want me to publish more links here? Of your recent “successes”? 

“Mistake”. That’s one of my favorite words   . A mistake is when one takes a left turn whilst meaning to take a right turn, oops. A mistake is NOT something that you DELIBERATELY CHOOSE, time and time and time again. Pre-meditated “mistakes”?

Whatever.

Re: call me....
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2017, 08:27:54 am »

[Buddie]

Hi all,

[…] is a new member, and whatever failings occurred in his past, he was not hiding them from members since he has posted his real name. He now seems to now understand that because of the potential problem of people seeking to misrepresent themselves at support forums such as BB (to abuse/fleece/trick members), we do not allow personal contact information to be posted here. […] is here for support with his withdrawal from benzodiazepines – members should not judge each other. Unless he does something to prove otherwise, […] should be given the benefit of any doubt, just as we do with all members. After all, we generally do not know the true identity of other members, and all are unvetted.

Thank you.

Re: call me....
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2017, 09:19:42 am »

[Buddie]

I can vouch for […]. He’s a good person just wanting to help but I can see how the board would be concerned. Not everyone has good intentions. Talking to someone going through the same thing really helps me.

Re: call me....
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2017, 10:25:05 am »

[Buddie]

It helps me too,that’s why f.b groups are good.yea there’s some evil people out there but if your genuine it does help other people.i speak to people in benzo groups also on the phone some times as it’s a lonely process.but I also understand other people’s concerns too…

Re: call me....
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2017, 10:47:23 am »

[Buddie]

What are some good f.b. groups?

Re: call me....
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2017, 12:49:51 pm »

[Buddie]

Thank you guys for all those nice private messages you’re sending me, I really appreciate the support, unfortunately I don’t know what they did to my account but it does not allow me to respond to any private message. I guess another strategic way of holding me back from finding the help I need. But I want everybody to know I appreciate the messages I just can’t respond to them

Benzo Buddies members suffer from Munchausen by Internet

Munchausen by Internet

Munchausen by Internet is a pattern of behavior akin to the Munchausen syndrome (a psychiatric factitious disorder wherein those affected feign disease, illness, or psychological trauma to draw attention, sympathy, or reassurance to themselves) in which Internet users seek attention by feigning illnesses in online venues such as chat rooms, message boards, and Internet Relay Chat (IRC). It has been described in medical literature as a manifestation of factitious disorderor factitious disorder by proxy.[1] Reports of users who deceive Internet forum participants by portraying themselves as gravely ill or as victims of violence first appeared in the 1990s due to the relative newness of Internet communications. The pattern was identified in 1998 by psychiatrist Marc Feldman, who created the term “Münchausen by Internet” in 2000.

People who demonstrate factitious disorders often claim to have physical ailments or be recovering from the consequences of stalking, victimization, harassment, and sexual abuse. Several behaviors present themselves to suggest factors beyond genuine problems. After studying 21 cases of deception, Feldman listed the following common behavior patterns in people who exhibited Munchausen by Internet:

  • Medical literature from websites or textbooks is often duplicated or discussed in great detail.
  • The length and severity of purported physical ailments conflicts with user behavior. Feldman uses the example of someone posting in considerable detail about being in septic shock, when such a possibility is extremely unlikely.
  • Symptoms of ailments may be exaggerated as they correspond to a user’s misunderstanding of the nature of an illness.
  • Grave situations and increasingly critical prognoses are interspersed with “miraculous” recoveries.
  • A user’s posts eventually reveal contradictory information or claims that are implausible: for example, other users of a forum may find that a user has been divulging contradictory information about occurrence or length of hospital visits.
  • When attention and sympathy decreases to focus on other members of the group, a user may announce that other dire events have transpired, including the illness or death of a close family member.
  • When faced with insufficient expressions of attention or sympathy, a forum member claims this as a cause that symptoms worsen or do not improve.
  • A user resists contact beyond the Internet, by telephone or personal visit, often claiming bizarre reasons for not being able to accept such contact.
  • Further emergencies are described with inappropriate happiness, designed to garner immediate reactions.
  • The posts of other forum members exhibit identical writing styles, spelling errors, and language idiosyncrasies, suggesting that the user has created fictitious identities to move the conversation in their direction.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munchausen_by_Internet

proposed munchausian circle jerk emoji ?
« on: May 10, 2017, 06:39:01 am »

[Buddie]

I joined on to this forum 2 days ago during what appeared to me, to be a protracted w/d issue.
I found comfort in many of the heart felt dialogues.
However,
It has occurred to me, for some, it may be a munchausian circle jerk.

I sincerely hope that is not the case, as it would seriously muddy the waters for people truly seeking specific help.
If it is, I propose the construction of a new emoji to express this case so that this concept can self regulate.

I hope I don’t get banned for saying so.