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We Are Not The Minority
« on: May 05, 2016, 05:41:05 pm »

[Buddie]

Buddies,

We are not the minority.

We are at the very initial stage of a tsunami groundswell, out in the middle of the ocean when it appears as just a tiny ripple on the surface of the water. Look at the growing number of people in the Introductions board who register as new members of BB every single day. Look at the number of “200 guests” who constantly churn through the BB turnstile reading anonymously. These new members and guests feel like crap and they are starting to figure out what’s happening to them. We members are their beacons. Our posts are providing them with knowledge and answers about the drugs they are taking and the dangerous effects they have on their brains. We are not a minority of poor unfortunate souls who are suffering through rare withdrawal symptoms. We are a small part of the MAJORITY of people who take these drugs who have decided to get off them. THAT is one minority we are in. Luckily we found BB and we are brave and honest enough to share our experiences. THAT is another minority we are in.

These drugs catch up with everyone eventually. Sometimes it takes years to hit tolerance if your body has the enzyme to metabolize the drug. But the drugs eventually wreak havoc on everyone who takes them. Eventually everyone downregulates their GABA receptors if they take the drugs up to the point of hitting tolerance. Nobody gets a free pass once they hit tolerance and downregulate their receptors. Nobody. The rollercoaster bar descends automatically on top of our bloated bellies and we are in for the ride of a lifetime.

The rollercoaster ride, thankfully, is not forever. Eventually the car we are in comes to a full and complete stop, the security bar automatically rises, we walk slowly and carefully off the ride and stroll alongside the rest of humanity enjoying the amusement park.

We members of BB who have been at this for awhile are pulling out of this shitshow, while others are just beginning their journeys. Our posts will give them hope that they will get their lives back. I’m going to continue posting to comfort others until I’m healed. I appreciate the companionship and support I receive from my fellow rollercoaster riders every single day.

Thank you BB family,

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« Last Edit: May 05, 2016, 07:05:09 pm by [Buddie] »

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2016, 05:46:54 pm »

[Buddie]

I dont write here much lately but I must say this message is pure truth. Anyone who has perfomee even the most basic of searches in regards to these pills will soon learn that there are millions of people on this crap. Granted there are those who never stop taking them and then again there are people like us.

This is unfortunately, only the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

L

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2016, 07:28:59 pm »

[Buddie]

Yes!! So true!! And think of the countless people who try to stop taking benzos but when they have a resurgence or even a new onset of anxiety and/or depression, among other things, they don’t see the correlation. Their psychiatrists insist that it’s a worsening or even a new mental health condition and give them more drugs. People are really bad at correlating things properly. Many of us are so out of tune with our own bodies. I used to be, but not anymore. I dream of the day I am healed and can come back to comfort and encourage everyone here at BB suffering and struggling to see the light. Thanks for this post.

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2016, 11:28:13 pm »

[Buddie]

Leslie,

You are very sweet and a newbie to all this, so I have my arm around you.

You will be fine. It’s a process. Read about the Four Phases in the Post Withdrawal Board. As you move through the process you’ll find similarities to your own experience.

We aren’t in a minority of unfortunate people who are going through withdrawal. We are in the majority of people who took drugs that temporarily altered our brain chemistry. Our internal healing systems will bring us back to homeostasis, a nice even state of balance.

Keep reading and posting your questions and concerns and the other members will respond with comforting words of support.

Love, […]

Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2016, 11:33:20 pm »

[Buddie]

Blue skies,

The whole greedy psyche drug money grab, at the expense of unsuspecting patients who are already hurting, is criminal. We are victims and warriors who are contributing to the growing awareness of a threat to the health and safety of mankind. This is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. By suffering publicly on this forum, I guess we are part of the solution.

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Re: We Are Not The Minority
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2016, 11:44:14 pm »

[Buddie]

Quote from: [Buddie] on May 05, 2016, 05:41:05 pm
Buddies,

We are not the minority.

We are at the very initial stage of a tsunami groundswell, out in the middle of the ocean when it appears as just a tiny ripple on the surface of the water. Look at the growing number of people in the Introductions board who register as new members of BB every single day. Look at the number of “200 guests” who constantly churn through the BB turnstile reading anonymously. These new members and guests feel like crap and they are starting to figure out what’s happening to them. We members are their beacons. Our posts are providing them with knowledge and answers about the drugs they are taking and the dangerous effects they have on their brains. We are not a minority of poor unfortunate souls who are suffering through rare withdrawal symptoms. We are a small part of the MAJORITY of people who take these drugs who have decided to get off them. THAT is one minority we are in. Luckily we found BB and we are brave and honest enough to share our experiences. THAT is another minority we are in.

These drugs catch up with everyone eventually. Sometimes it takes years to hit tolerance if your body has the enzyme to metabolize the drug. But the drugs eventually wreak havoc on everyone who takes them. Eventually everyone downregulates their GABA receptors if they take the drugs up to the point of hitting tolerance. Nobody gets a free pass once they hit tolerance and downregulate their receptors. Nobody. The rollercoaster bar descends automatically on top of our bloated bellies and we are in for the ride of a lifetime.

The rollercoaster ride, thankfully, is not forever. Eventually the car we are in comes to a full and complete stop, the security bar automatically rises, we walk slowly and carefully off the ride and stroll alongside the rest of humanity enjoying the amusement park.

We members of BB who have been at this for awhile are pulling out of this shitshow, while others are just beginning their journeys. Our posts will give them hope that they will get their lives back. I’m going to continue posting to comfort others until I’m healed. I appreciate the companionship and support I receive from my fellow rollercoaster riders every single day.

Thank you BB family,

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In my first taper, I thought that everyone went through hell when coming off benzos.
I read, this, and now defunct forums avidly and feared I would get every symptmom going as I’d been on valium 8yrs, took street benzos, stoppped c/t for five weeks and felt like the odds were against me.

I got two of the symptoms, anxiety and depression.

I got to 0mg with no PAWS

I frightened myself terribly by reading about the sx everyone on here was suffering.

No doubt there are loads of people registering here, realising why they feel like sh1t, and guests who lurk but dont register etc.
That could be down to the recent years influx of new research benzos or bathtub benzos as some call them.
They are legal in many countries, they are in mine, but are being banned.
Many recreational drug users may have been using them, not realising they are just like benzos as theyve never had cause to, but suffering wds on stopping usage, if supply, stock runs out or they run out of money and don’t buy them in the same way they wouldn’t buy thier other drugs when they have no money.

I realised that there are a hell of a lot of people who don’t suffer anywhere near what the poor people on these boards suffer.
I’m not saying the majority get away scott free, but the people who have no bother, or not enough bother to make a post about, just don’t post.
Some people go on and off them a few times before it finally hits them, as the more habits you have to detox from the worse the wds get and if you get none the first, second, or third time around, you might get hit the fourth time, and so on.

I could hav saved myself a lot of worry by reading about people’s symptoms instead of looking at the wider perspective and considering the whole of the population of people who have stopped benzo use or only taken weeks/months to taper, as well as the poor people who get hit with sx.
I’d have been reassured back then, if I knew that not all people suffer like the poor people have on these boards.
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Benzo Buddies addiction and cyberchondria are dangerous to your health: “I’ve lost my youth because of Google”

The pitfalls of the internet, and the vast information available.
« on: February 20, 2016, 03:41:55 pm »

[Buddie]

Members old and new remember that the mind is a powerful thing, and you can create worry and obsession – from viewing the forum every once in a while to every hour of the day. From Googling symptoms and self diagnosis… For example I used zopiclone for 8 years with zero issues until I googled long term use and came to a result about cancer, now it’s a daily obsession, every pain in my body, ie back pain, is a tumor or something.

Avoid self diagnosis and being given information (informed or misinformed) and only take advice from a doctor. I have a lot of medical knowledge, an AWFUL lot, and I still manage to convince myself I’m ill every day. If you take anything from the groups or websites make sure it’s ONLY support and friendship, DO NOT allow yourself to believe you may also have a symptom another member is having or something you’ve Googled.

Because your body is 100% individual to you, as is your situation… Don’t do what I did, I spent 10 years in the house without going outside saying “I’m going to die” I’ve lost my youth because of Google.

Don’t lose your future too.

Quote from: [Buddie] on February 07, 2016, 04:02:18 am
I think a lot of people get freaked out by so many horror stories and that this ramps up anxiety and wd sxs.

There have to be more people reading these posts that are doing alright. I am and I had years on a high dose of Xanax.      

Sure if you feel something, and others do too, then obviously you can gain a lot of support from people going through the same thing. But remember that because someone else is going through an issue, don’t allow yourself to assume you will too.

This is especially true for stuff like seizures, I see MANY people who have read online about seizures and are scared to reduce because of it! But before they read this information seizures were the LAST THING on their mind.

Now they won’t taper because of it.

Recently (yesterday), I reinstated a double dose of zopiclone of 15mg because I was told by a NUMBER of members that I was in massive withdrawal from dropping from 15mg to 7.5mg within 3 days, and that I was I quote “going crazy” the damage has been done and I’ve now reinstated at 15mg and have to start ALL OVER AGAIN to reduced.

And I was doing SO WELL.

BUT I’m not going to take 15mg again, screw those members. AND this is my point, they don’t know me, my body, or drugs, or the affects it will have on anybody’s body.

Now ironically, I too have done this, but in the opposite way, trying to rationalise some of the symptoms people feel.

In the same way doctors try and convince me I DON’T have cancer or anything else, and I can’t be convinced. So I guess a lot of members are so tied into their beliefs like I am with my issues that when someone says “Hey it might not be that” that you completely dismiss it.

Which is what I do also.

Anyway, the point is, NEW MEMBERS don’t have that same mindset, but its easily created… and when I joined this forum I was a new member with no issues… Then members educated me on what I should be feeling –

If you’re a member reading this, just remember to use this place for support and friendships. Not for diagnosis, and don’t tell other members that they should be in withdrawal or interdose withdrawal or that they “CAN EXPECT THIS” (YES I’VE SEEN THAT)

“I’m tapering _____” “You can expect to feel anxiety, not sleeping” etc etc

I was so shocked when I seen this, it was a while ago, and then the member lost her shit and was clearly upset.

Most people are here because they can’t sleep at night, then we all need to sleep well knowing we support members and don’t impression vulnerable people
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